America's Architect Of Foreign Disaster Is Stepping Down

[ll74]

Recall that Putin and Zelensky did so in February of 2023 but then Joe Biden, probably on Nuland's advice, sent Boris Johnson to Kiev to tell Zelensky to table their peace agreement in favor of more weapons aid. I think Zelensky will have to beg Putin for peace this time around.

Russia invaded Ukraine. If their objective is to stop NATO expansion, they already failed.

They should concede some land to broker peace and stop the war.

That they started. Putin's war.

 

[dmallord]

So is Ukraine successfully defending itself against Russia? Has the battlefield situation maps changed significantly since we've given them 113 billion in aid, almost twice the entire operational yearly budget of your Marine Corps?

"There's no way Ukraine can prevail over Russia which has four times the population of Ukraine and vastly more resources and industrial capability. It's been a fool's errand from the start."

That is what you should have taken away after reading my post.

No, it means that Russia has used restraint, the invasion was localized to encompass those Russian-speaking provinces it presently occupies with no intention of moving further west. Recall that although he had larger reserves in the field, Putin initially attacked with a force of 90,000 men, far too small of a force to have any larger designs on western Ukraine. I don't support what has been done but it is what it is and not for the first time in the history of the world.

Ukraine is not going to prevail against Russia in this campaign. The bottom line reason is that Russia will use nuclear weapons to keep NATO out of Ukraine and away from its southern border. They have said so. Recall the Monroe Doctrine and how we kicked the French out of Mexico. Nobody in Europe or outside the Biden administration will support a nuclear war with Russia, or even a conventional war that would put our homeland infrastructure at risk. That is why the goals of the Biden administration cannot be realized. As bad as it is for the Ukrainians, it is bad. The eastern part of the country has been destroyed, and the most valuable real estate in Ukraine is in the hands of the Russians. Both sides have lost hundreds of thousands of casualties, huge numbers for both sides but worse for Ukraine because their population is four times smaller than Russia's. The destruction in Ukraine is on WWI levels, their mass graves are large enough to be seen and photographed from space. The only answer to this war is negotiation. At this point, and sadly so, it appears the Russians are going to be in a position to dictate the conditions on the ground.

No one in their right mind [feel free to bow out on this] can declare Russia has used restraint or localized only on the Russian-speaking regions. You keep harping on our contribution as exceeding the entire Marine Corps budget in several posts. That is irrelevant to the concern that financial support is still needed to thwart the invasion. God Bless the Marines, but it's fighting force support funds isn't meant to hold off an entire envading army on multiple fronts, so give yourself a break on that non-starter in the future.

With support from other nations and our financial and logistical support, a valiant outnumbered, outgunned, Ukrainian military force has held off Puten's armies for two years. Your claim that 90,000 force swelled wasn't meant to take the whole of Ukraine flys in the face of where this war is now. At last count, over 400,000 dead Russians paid dearly for that. Ukraine pushed the invasion force back to nearly the original invasion lines.

From your unique perch overwatching the fighting, you declare on behalf of no one that the only solution is negotiation. That's not your decision. That decision is for the Ukrainians. They have heart and soul poured into their sovereign right to defend themselves.

Puten you claim started this with a 'limited force' and it escalated. That disproves your shit about knowing what he has designs on for the whole of Ukraine. Even Tucker Carlson couldn't 'crack that nut' and find out what was in that criminal's mind.

Fund Ukraine, now, save the US military's blood from battle while we can. That's what the fuck you should be focusing on.

 

[Rotadom]

No, it means that Russia has used restraint, the invasion was localized to encompass those Russian-speaking provinces it presently occupies with no intention of moving further west. Recall that although he had larger reserves in the field, Putin initially attacked with a force of 90,000 men, far too small of a force to have any larger designs on western Ukraine. I don't support what has been done but it is what it is and not for the first time in the history of the world.

Ukraine is not going to prevail against Russia in this campaign. The bottom line reason is that Russia will use nuclear weapons to keep NATO out of Ukraine and away from its southern border. They have said so. Recall the Monroe Doctrine and how we kicked the French out of Mexico. Nobody in Europe or outside the Biden administration will support a nuclear war with Russia, or even a conventional war that would put our homeland infrastructure at risk. That is why the goals of the Biden administration cannot be realized. As bad as it is for the Ukrainians, it is bad. The eastern part of the country has been destroyed, and the most valuable real estate in Ukraine is in the hands of the Russians. Both sides have lost hundreds of thousands of casualties, huge numbers for both sides but worse for Ukraine because their population is four times smaller than Russia's. The destruction in Ukraine is on WWI levels, their mass graves are large enough to be seen and photographed from space. The only answer to this war is negotiation. At this point, and sadly so, it appears the Russians are going to be in a position to dictate the conditions on the ground.

You lifted this from leaflets passed around the Kremlin.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

No, it means that Russia has used restraint,

Like fuck they did.

the invasion was localized to encompass those Russian-speaking provinces it presently occupies with no intention of moving further west.

Bullshit

Recall that although he had larger reserves in the field, Putin initially attacked with a force of 90,000 men, far too small of a force to have any larger designs on western Ukraine. I don't support what has been done but it is what it is and not for the first time in the history of the world.

You forgot that 1 in front of the 90000. No surprise to me, you suck at math.

Ukraine is not going to prevail against Russia in this campaign.

Maybe yes, maybe no, but they are going to die trying.

The bottom line reason is that Russia will use nuclear weapons to keep NATO out of Ukraine and away from its southern border.

No they won't, do you want to know why, because the UK and France will retaliate and blow them off the face of the earth. Putin knows this. He's bluffing and I'm willing to call him out on that bluff. Fuck I'll bet the French are there before years end....oh wait, you're too chicken to bet.

The destruction in Ukraine is on WWI levels,

The Eastern front in WW1 was mostly in what is now Polish territory. The front never came near Kivi. It ran north/south from Riga to near Bucharest. Just another fact you know nothing about....

their mass graves are large enough to be seen and photographed from space.

Yes Russian's do have a lot of mass graves now.

The only answer to this war is negotiation. At this point, and sadly so, it appears the Russians are going to be in a position to dictate the conditions on the ground.

Maybe, maybe not. A lot depends on if they get the arms and munitions they need.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Why? It won't have any effect on the outcome of the war and much of it will be stolen. There's no way Ukraine can prevail over Russia which has four times the population of Ukraine and vastly more resources and industrial capability. It's been a fool's errand from the start. Look at history. The Mongol Empire failed in the end against the Russians, the Ottoman Turks tried it, as did the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Sweden tried it, Napoleon tried it with the French Army, and Nazi Germany tried it, but all failed in the end.

Ukraine is not trying to conquer Russia. They are simply trying to expel them from their own territory.

You are clearly a Putin apologist, we get that. The question is, why? You obviously love his politics and how he grants his citizens so much "Freedom" (by your definition of Freedom, not ours) but my question is, just be honest for once, are you in fact on his payroll, or at least, a Russian citizen?

Honest question. Renard Ruse eventually owned up to it, why can't you?

 

[Buffalogurl]

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BREAKING: Ukraine War Architect Victoria Nuland RESIGNS.​

Victoria Nuland, the third-ranking diplomat in the United States and architect of the Ukraine war, has announced her early retirement, according to the State Department.
Her resignation will doubtless be construed as a sign of her failure across several briefs, most recently her Ukraine war involvement and the ongoing crisis in Europe.

More here: https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/03/05/breaking-ukraine-war-architect-victoria-nuland-resigns/

After overseeing the destruction of Ukraine, the deaths of hundreds of thousands, and sticking her meddlesome nose in most of the World's business, she's bugging out before being summarily dismissed by the next President.

Just look into her eyes, they're fucking empty, soulless, and demonic/evil..... that photo gives me the creeps....

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Just look into her eyes, they're fucking empty, soulless, and demonic/evil..... that photo gives me the creeps....

Isn't that exactly what you want in a diplomat? soulless, evil and demonic? The prefect combination for negotiations.

 

[LLCox]

Throwing good money after bad. Thank gawd it's fake money. The US is so far in debt now it makes no difference. Someone is going to come along and have a Jubilee and start over.

 

[HisArpy]

Throwing good money after bad. Thank gawd it's fake money. The US is so far in debt now it makes no difference. Someone is going to come along and have a Jubilee and start over.

The thing I see is that everyone in power wants the war to continue. If, instead of sending money, we proposed sending 50,000 trans progressives instead of aid and arms the war would be over in nanoseconds.

 

[ll74]

The thing I see is that everyone in power wants the war to continue. If, instead of sending money, we proposed sending 50,000 trans progressives instead of aid and arms the war would be over in nanoseconds.

The US didn't want the war to begin and told Russia not to invade.

We continue to assist Ukraine in their defense against hostile invaders, as an ally.

 

[HisArpy]

The US didn't want the war to begin and told Russia not to invade.

We continue to assist Ukraine in their defense against hostile invaders, as an ally.

Like I said, send in 50,000 progressive trannys and the war will end pronto. Lots of hysteria and fainting but so fast even a Jackalope would be impressed.

 

[ll74]

Like I said, send in 50,000 progressive trannys and the war will end pronto. Lots of hysteria and fainting but so fast even a Jackalope would be impressed.

Yes, you continue to not take the situation serioisly

 

[JohnEngelman]

During the War in Vietnam we were more interested in fighting the Communists than most of the South Vietnamese were.

The situation in Ukraine is not like that at all. The Ukrainians have told us, "We will fight for our independence from Russia. We will appreciate your help, but we will fight Russia without it if we need to.

 

[HisArpy]

Yes, you continue to not take the situation serioisly

You fail to understand that the current plan won't solve anything or stop the fighting. Money and surplus arms are a way to keep it impersonal to the public and those in power well lubed with cash.

Send in a few thousand cease fire protesters and that would change. Fast.

 

[Rightguide]

No one in their right mind [feel free to bow out on this] can declare Russia has used restraint or localized only on the Russian-speaking regions. You keep harping on our contribution as exceeding the entire Marine Corps budget in several posts. That is irrelevant to the concern that financial support is still needed to thwart the invasion. God Bless the Marines, but it's fighting force support funds isn't meant to hold off an entire envading army on multiple fronts, so give yourself a break on that non-starter in the future.

With support from other nations and our financial and logistical support, a valiant outnumbered, outgunned, Ukrainian military force has held off Puten's armies for two years. Your claim that 90,000 force swelled wasn't meant to take the whole of Ukraine flys in the face of where this war is now. At last count, over 400,000 dead Russians paid dearly for that. Ukraine pushed the invasion force back to nearly the original invasion lines.

From your unique perch overwatching the fighting, you declare on behalf of no one that the only solution is negotiation. That's not your decision. That decision is for the Ukrainians. They have heart and soul poured into their sovereign right to defend themselves.

Puten you claim started this with a 'limited force' and it escalated. That disproves your shit about knowing what he has designs on for the whole of Ukraine. Even Tucker Carlson couldn't 'crack that nut' and find out what was in that criminal's mind.

Fund Ukraine, now, save the US military's blood from battle while we can. That's what the fuck you should be focusing on.

I've already posted facts that refute much of what you say above and I'm not going to do it again. Ukraine will eventually negotiate a settlement to this war. it is inevitable. The simple reasons are those I have stated.

In WWII the average age of American troops in the field was 26 years old, in the Vietnam War the average age of American troops was 23 years old. The average age of the Ukrainian army today is 43 years old, what does that tell you? Unoccupied Ukraine has had a 38% drop in population since the beginning of the war. In short, Ukraine is running out of men they can throw into battle no matter the amount of money we provide them with.

PS: I said the 90,000 initial troop invasion was proof that Putin's intent was not to take western Ukraine as it is too small of a force to attack and seize a land mass as large as Texas.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

You fail to understand that the current plan won't solve anything or stop the fighting. Money and surplus arms are a way to keep it impersonal to the public and those in power well lubed with cash.

Send in a few thousand cease fire protesters and that would change. Fast.

A couple of dozen Litlibs should solve the issue.


I have nominees . . . .

 

[HisArpy]

A couple of dozen Litlibs should solve the issue.


I have nominees . . . .

That would mean we'd have no one to make fun of around here. Talk about booooooring.

But, if you insist, be sure butterzfat is on the list. She's probably well versed in European traditions and could teach the other Litlibs how to win "friends" overseas.

 

[Rightguide]

The US didn't want the war to begin and told Russia not to invade.

We continue to assist Ukraine in their defense against hostile invaders, as an ally.

Recall the actual history. It was Obama who sent non-lethal aid to Ukraine. It was Trump who sent the first lethal aid to Ukraine.

 

[ll74]

Recall the actual history. It was Obama who sent non-lethal aid to Ukraine. It was Trump who sent the first lethal aid to Ukraine.

Biden told Putin not to invade.

Putin invaded.

Putin didn't want NATO expansion, yet caused it to occur by invading.

 

[Rightguide]

Biden told Putin not to invade.

Putin invaded.

Putin didn't want NATO expansion, yet caused it to occur by invading.

Yes, we all know that Biden is less than a formidable President. Recall Joe Biden's stupid remark about how Russia might be excused for a "minor incursion" into Ukraine is probably what motivated Putin to invade. It is a matter of history that Joe is an incompetent fool in foreign policy with 50 years of experience in being wrong.

 

[ll74]

Yes, we all know that Biden is less than a formidable President. Recall Joe Biden's stupid remark about how Russia might be excused for a "minor incursion" into Ukraine is probably what motivated Putin to invade. It is a matter of history that Joe is an incompetent fool in foreign policy with 50 years of experience in being wrong.

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Your
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Isn't relevant to that.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

PS: I said the 90,000 initial troop invasion was proof that Putin's intent was not to take western Ukraine as it is too small of a force to attack and seize a land mass as large as Texas.

Except as I pointed out yesterday, it was 190,000 troops mobilised, you really are shitty at math, Mr 2/10th.

 

[Rightguide]

Russia invaded Ukraine.

You're a master of the obvious. How many times are you going to post the obvious that the rest of us are already aware of before you finally accept it?

 

[ll74]

You're a master of the obvious. How many times are you going to post the obvious that the rest of us are already aware of before you finally accept it?

You blame everyone else for the problem, so I'll keep making sure to place the blame where it belongs.

Russia is responsible for every Ukraine death, period.

 

[Rightguide]

Glenn Greenwald spills the beans on Victoria Nuland. Yes, she is a force for evil: