Am I really the only person who finds

[mirafrida]

Over the last fifteen years I feel like I've witnessed the ENF kink become less and less comprehensible to people as the social taboo against nudity in most public situations, and in general, has eroded. The dom-sub parallels persist, I think because body-shaming and slut-shaming still intersect with people's anxieties or people's desire to reassert those ideas, but ENF per se surely has to disappear.

I spoke to a fetish performer-turned-producer a few years ago and she was very much aware of the aging demographics of the people purchasing her ENF fetish videos, and so was adding other niches. Vore, and such...

Haha, now I'm feeling old

Seriously though, at risk of verging off topic, I've found attitudes toward marriage and cheating over the last decade or two quite sociologically fascinating. Monogomous marriage is challenged like never before, from many perspectives (broadening embrace of polyamory of various sorts, people skeptical of the institution from different perspectives, people who have just given up on the possibility of finding a suitable marriage partner...). And yet, if there's ONE thing American society can agree on, from left to right and men to women, it's that cheaters are THE PURIST EVIL.

Well, I'm not here to defend real-life cheaters either. But it's amusing to me that cheaters are SOOO evil that we can't even write fictional depictions of them to get off.

(Also amusing that although anyone you ask will condemn cheating up, down, and sideways, it sure seems like it happens a lot. Wonder who's doing it?)

 

[AngelaSaxon]

And yet, if there's ONE thing American society can agree on, from left to right and men to women, it's that cheaters are THE PURIST EVIL.

Well, I'm not here to defend real-life cheaters either. But it's amusing to me that cheaters are SOOO evil that we can't even write fictional depictions of them to get off.

Can certainly take up a lot of people's energy - jealousy, paranoia and mistrust, everything involved in having to keep secrets. IRL I mean. Not to mention all of that raging woman-hatred visible over at the LW comment sections...

I'll always be grateful that my life is largely untouched by such things. I just don't care about monogamy enough for 'cheating' to be an exciting transgression or terrifying violation. Yes I'm denied the pleasures of any of the myriad versions of fantasy in which cheating is the core idea, but I feel like it's a trade-off that's easy to make. As any kink you don't share seems like no loss. From dom-sub stuff to feet to whatever furry or vore stuff looks like in practice for people... the kinks one truly doesn't share are only experienced as sexual in an intellectual understanding or technical sense...

Thank secular utopia for the rise of 21st century polyamory. Chicken and egg etc, but it's probably no coincidence that the late nineties saw the publication of books like The Lesbian Polyamory Reader: Open Relationships, Non-Monogamy, and Casual Sex. As well as Beth A. Firestein's Bisexuality: The Psychology and Politics of an Invisible Minority. Books that seemingly reflected and helped accelerate the acceptance of particular relationship models other than monogamous coupledom, especially other than its erstwhile dominant form, heterosexual 'monogamous' marriage.

 

[HopefulDaddy]

So, never said there's nothing appealing, but have opinions about what is and isn't to me and why, and actively trying to understand how and why this fiction takes the precise forms it tends to...

I get it. I was wondering what aspects you prefer. Are there NC types you actually enjoy? Maybe I've missed some aspect of your opinion, but I don't know that you've actually said what you DO like in the genre, if at all. Mostly, it seems you're luke warm about the whole thing. Which is fine, if that's the case. Just curious if there are aspects that are genuinely appealing or if you really just prefer other genre.

 

[GoodnessO]

I understand, but just because something is a nightmare scenario in real life doesn't mean people can't explore it in fiction without wanting it to happen. People read about murder, war, suffering, things they'd never want to experience firsthand. Dark fantasy is no different.

It's about feeling something from it.

Power, fear, loss of control - presented in a way that's safe (fiction) - it can feel thrilling, fascinating, even cathartic. Even arousing.

I guess my feelings are naturally close enough to the surface, it just makes me feel horrible. I don't read any of that. I can't watch violent shows without feeling the need to sleep with my axe next to my bed... & I have, on numerous occasions. Luckily I haven't killed a friend.

 

[H. Jekyll]

I agree that those men are probably seeking out stories to be enraged by as much as they're looking for stories to enjoy sans fury...

Oh yes. Misogynistic readers. I myself write mostly LW, adulterous wives stories, but I have a (well-earned) reputation for favoring reconciliation: "RAAC" as some like to style it, rather than "BTB." So I get any number of "wimp," "cuck," "pussy" et al comments from guys who just want the woman to suffer. (Bruce1971 has posted essays on such topics).

Sure, LW's readership is mostly male. Stories largely divide between the "hot wife/happy cuckold" ones and those of adulterous wives. Maybe women readers predominate for the hot wives stories. I wouldn't know about that. But, we don't even have a "Loving husbands" category. There are some adulterous husband stories (are there tons of these in romance fiction?), and of course the adulterous wife needs a partner or partners, and often these are other women's husbands. But having the wife face the turmoil of stumbling onto the partner's cheating? Rare, rare, and rare. And having an adulterous wife who is a good person? Or a complex person? Yes. Sometimes.

 

[NuclearFairy]

@AngelaSaxon Have you thought about setting up a thread were you offer to reviewing noncon and stories with rape elements? Your reviews seem to be pretty well thought out and helpful and I personally would post in such a thread if you did.

 

[WCSGarland]

Oh yes. Misogynistic readers. I myself write mostly LW, adulterous wives stories, but I have a (well-earned) reputation for favoring reconciliation: "RAAC" as some like to style it, rather than "BTB." So I get any number of "wimp," "cuck," "pussy" et al comments from guys who just want the woman to suffer. (Bruce1971 has posted essays on such topics).

Sure, LW's readership is mostly male. Stories largely divide between the "hot wife/happy cuckold" ones and those of adulterous wives. Maybe women readers predominate for the hot wives stories. I wouldn't know about that. But, we don't even have a "Loving husbands" category. There are some adulterous husband stories (are there tons of these in romance fiction?), and of course the adulterous wife needs a partner or partners, and often these are other women's husbands. But having the wife face the turmoil of stumbling onto the partner's cheating? Rare, rare, and rare. And having an adulterous wife who is a good person? Or a complex person? Yes. Sometimes.

I have a LW series at the moment that the current chapter seems to be getting hate bombed where the woman is trying to decide whether or not to include the seductress into the permanent relationship with the husband and wife. My wife's character is of the adulterous type who is complex and wanting to be faithful but also wanting to share her husband with her seductress. I'm having fun writing it, but the hate bombing is kind of depressing.

 

[H. Jekyll]

What is your series? Hate bombed?

 

[WCSGarland]

What is your series? Hate bombed?

The series is Untethered Hearts, currently the first 4 chapters are between 3 and 4 stars, but chapter 5 just crawled above 2 recently.

 

[SomaSlave]

NB: In my comments below, I'm excluding the BDSM category, as I believe there are different dynamics at play in most of those stories, especially with the consensual nonconsent/SSC conflict. My thoughts relate purely to the difference in how same sex NC/R stories are viewed. I'm sure I'm overgeneralizing: feel free to call me out on it.

I've noticed something interesting about NC/R stories and discussions on Lit: the discussions revolve around m/f stories. Same sex NC/R stories in the Gay Male and Lesbian Sex categories don't seem to be bound to the same rules. There seems to be a subgenre of stories in GM, especially, of men who are perpetual victims of other men, whether they like it or not. It's almost treated as a "normal" part of the gay lifestyle, especially among jocks and the leather crowd.

To be clear: I find most stories in which a man forces himself on a woman to be as reprehensible as they are in real life, primarily because the "she finds out she really enjoys it" is too close to justifying rape for my taste. I'm reminded of James Bond turning Pussy Galore into a straight woman by raping her (and, yes, that's exactly what the scene in Goldfinger was about).

Oddly enough, I enjoy reading the works of the Marquis de Sade, not because I'm turned on by the unrelenting sexual assault and excess, but because it's accompanied by an underlying and explicitly stated philosophy of human nature that drives it and "justifies" the characters' behavior. The people are morally repellent, but, sadly, their motivations and world views are very much in evidence today.

For the recent 750 Word Challenge, I made my first foray into the NC/R category with a story called Going Up? Going Down! The MC is a thoroughly despicable executive type who takes casual advantage of an underling. I made both hero and villain male to remove any hint of misogyny: while I fully expected to get downvoted, I didn't want it to be for being a pig. I was pleasantly surprised to get only one comment asking me to pile on the humiliation.

 

[H. Jekyll]

The series is Untethered Hearts, currently the first 4 chapters are between 3 and 4 stars, but chapter 5 just crawled above 2 recently.

Okay, from my point of view, the story wouldn't be highly rated, but let me give some context. Your story (this one) focuses on the sex.
"All sex, all the time." I'd think that might bore readers after a bit. Still an average score of about two? That's intriguing. I wouldn't rate it that low. Everyone is different, but an average of two? Well. Just as a counter-example: I tend to focus off the actual sex. In my author's profile, I even state that I think sex can be the curse of sex stories. Sometimes (only sometimes!) there's no sex at all. I focus on feelings, emotions, and thoughts. Sex is more an issue: a driver, a destroyer, even a healer. Something that drives people and drives them crazy.

Not to say you should go in that direction. I'm not one of the most popular writers at Lit, though I'm one of the best (he says, being thoroughly humble). I'm just offering it as one alternative. Those with the highest average scores (in my experience) have something else going on than the sex, often an adventure or relationship growth story of some kind. Some of the best hardly belong at Literotica, and frankly some of the best writers have moved on to professional publishing.

 

[WCSGarland]

Okay, from my point of view, the story wouldn't be highly rated, but let me give some context. Your story (this one) focuses on the sex.
"All sex, all the time." I'd think that might bore readers after a bit. Still an average score of about two? That's intriguing. I wouldn't rate it that low. Everyone is different, but an average of two? Well. Just as a counter-example: I tend to focus off the actual sex. In my author's profile, I even state that I think sex can be the curse of sex stories. Sometimes (only sometimes!) there's no sex at all. I focus on feelings, emotions, and thoughts. Sex is more an issue: a driver, a destroyer, even a healer. Something that drives people and drives them crazy.

Not to say you should go in that direction. I'm not one of the most popular writers at Lit, though I'm one of the best (he says, being thoroughly humble). I'm just offering it as one alternative. Those with the highest average scores (in my experience) have something else going on than the sex, often an adventure or relationship growth story of some kind. Some of the best hardly belong at Literotica, and frankly some of the best writers have moved on to professional publishing.

Chapters 4 & 5 are the setup for the twist in Chapter 6. I was hoping to provide a mindset for the couple that would be context for what comes next. Perhaps I overplayed it with the deep dive into the erotic.

 

[H. Jekyll]

that's not for me to judge. As I said, I found the scores surprisingly low, particularly in comparison to your previous scores. All you can do is plow ahead and see where things go. Good luck.

 

[AngelaSaxon]

I haven't been around for a few days really as life sometimes makes onerous demands but I did just read one of the "Random Stories' on the NC/R page, and it had one of those familiar porn tropes, this one not particularly limited to NC/R section stories. And now I do have to wonder...

It was one of those stories in which someone says his big cock will 'ruin" her for smaller cocks. As frequently is the case here, it's related to US racial-sexual mythologies about black men and white women and such, but this trope exists more broadly and so persistently that I have to wonder...

Do guys think this relates to reality?

Do they think that female sexual biology works this way for one thing, because it's often implied or stated that this is supposed to be an actual direct, physical consequence of being fucked by a particularly large penis - that something changes that means a regular sized penis won't be enough to make sex satisfying, and possibly that for some reason the woman who has been fucked in this way won't be a satisfying fuck for someone with a regular sized penis.

People don't actually think this is how things work, even slightly, do they?

They know this is Loch Ness Monster-level wilful belief in nonsense, right? Surely?

It kind of parallels a lot of equally absurd, incel-associated and at least implicitly slut-shaming ideas about the supposed biological-genital consequences of a woman having sex with a bunch of different people - being 'worn out', getting a 'loose' pussy, etcetera. But it does feel like it's kind of its own thing too.

Is this a consequence of bad quality sex-ed and related social ignorance combined with some crappy attitudes, or is this just alternative reality fantasy people just enjoy playing with?

Or both to different people or to different degrees, I suppose?

I know this plays a role in some cuck fetishism, penis size correlating in such fantasies with ideas about the often more 'masculine' guy who fucks 'their' partner, and I could see how for that particular fantasy such ideas, whether or not they're given that racial content, can fit with what cuck fetishists are often looking for.

But that surely doesn't mean they actually believe such things?

I mean, people don't have to think omegaverse biology has a relation to this universe, in order for that fantasy to work for people... right?

Anyway, the maybe twentieth time I notice these ideas given such prominence in stories here - the particular big dick mythologies, I mean, not the omegaverse - I find it difficult not to wonder...

 

[AlinaX]

"Honey," she whispered in his ear. "You hit the jackpot tonight. My tight pussy is gonna ruin you for all those big cunts out there."

 

[GoodnessO]

I haven't been around for a few days really as life sometimes makes onerous demands but I did just read one of the "Random Stories' on the NC/R page, and it had one of those familiar porn tropes, this one not particularly limited to NC/R section stories. And now I do have to wonder...

It was one of those stories in which someone says his big cock will 'ruin" her for smaller cocks. As frequently is the case here, it's related to US racial-sexual mythologies about black men and white women and such, but this trope exists more broadly and so persistently that I have to wonder...

Do guys think this relates to reality?

Do they think that female sexual biology works this way for one thing, because it's often implied or stated that this is supposed to be an actual direct, physical consequence of being fucked by a particularly large penis - that something changes that means a regular sized penis won't be enough to make sex satisfying, and possibly that for some reason the woman who has been fucked in this way won't be a satisfying fuck for someone with a regular sized penis.

People don't actually think this is how things work, even slightly, do they?

They know this is Loch Ness Monster-level wilful belief in nonsense, right? Surely?

It kind of parallels a lot of equally absurd, incel-associated and at least implicitly slut-shaming ideas about the supposed biological-genital consequences of a woman having sex with a bunch of different people - being 'worn out', getting a 'loose' pussy, etcetera. But it does feel like it's kind of its own thing too.

Is this a consequence of bad quality sex-ed and related social ignorance combined with some crappy attitudes, or is this just alternative reality fantasy people just enjoy playing with?

Or both to different people or to different degrees, I suppose?

I know this plays a role in some cuck fetishism, penis size correlating in such fantasies with ideas about the often more 'masculine' guy who fucks 'their' partner, and I could see how for that particular fantasy such ideas, whether or not they're given that racial content, can fit with what cuck fetishists are often looking for.

But that surely doesn't mean they actually believe such things?

I mean, people don't have to think omegaverse biology has a relation to this universe, in order for that fantasy to work for people... right?

Anyway, the maybe twentieth time I notice these ideas given such prominence in stories here - the particular big dick mythologies, I mean, not the omegaverse - I find it difficult not to wonder...

Really good question whether, & how many, men believe in a loose pussy syndrome caused by large cocks, or lots of intercourse in general.
Or if the idea is more similar to a really good bj with deep throating. I read in a thread, a guy saying, receiving deep throating ruined him for "regular" bj's... they just couldn't compare.
Anyway, I was recently (2 days ago) I was with a man who's cock is on the smaller side, yet as he was penetrating me, he said, "You've got really tight box." And I wasn't even squeezing yet. I was just trying to relax & let him get in. My reply, "My pussy gets exercise."

 

[mirafrida]

IPeople don't actually think this is how things work, even slightly, do they?

They know this is Loch Ness Monster-level wilful belief in nonsense, right? Surely?

...

But that surely doesn't mean they actually believe such things?

I will cop to having elements of these tropes in many of my stories. I do, however, strive to engage them with a certain sort of finesse (though whether I succeed will of course have to be in the eye of the beholder). In that sense, I guess the "X-factor" that I can't answer is whether the writer of the average story that strays into this territory actually *believes* this stuff, or whether they are trying to explore the fantasy qua fantasy, as I am, but perhaps executing it poorly.

When engaging with these sorts of notions that are prima-facie silly, yet somehow still have erotic juice (for some), the key in my view is to present them as representing ideas / feelings / fears / impulses / gut reactions operating in the minds of the characters, not essentialized "facts" that we are all supposed to take for granted.

Like, I, personally, like big cocks - who knows why, but presumably it's heavily socialized. As with any such leaning, in real life I temper that preference with the many, many other considerations involved in sex and relationships. I find it neither functional nor appealing to reduce myself to playing out a narrow caricature. In my stories, however, most of the guys are going to have big cocks, because, well, they're fictional and I'm writing them.

Still, the question becomes, do I assume every fictional female character is supposed to love big cocks? Do I assume the reader is also excited about this? I try not to - working the fetish in for those who like it, while not allowing it to dominate the narrative, and ideally even engaging it with a bit of ironic distance. But more than that, I try to use the trope to effect - letting the victim be intimidated by the big cock if that's what I'm going for, or letting her share my preference for it and using that to take some edge off her unwillingness, or letting it stand as a proxy for some male status competition that, again, is played for emotional and erotic effect but hopefully not taken too seriously as a reflection of real-life masculine interactions or "fitness." And in each case, trying to develop this as a product of the characters thoughts, preferences, and background, rather than all-encompassing social realities.

Now, whether my attempts to thread this needle actually land is hard to say. Maybe it can't be threaded. Based on the comments I receive, some readers clearly don't get it - assuming, either with affirmation or disgust, that I think these concepts are "real."

But yeah, as a reader of this stuff, I'd definitely argue that many writers in this category could benefit from deeper introspection and a lighter touch in this regard.

 

[H. Jekyll]

For the original "big cock" question, AngelaSaxon, let me ask some back: (1) do people really believe semen runs in a river down a woman's legs? (2) Do they really believe men come in quarts? (3) Do they really believe most women can -- and do -- deep throat a man? (4) Do they really believe most women like to drink semen? (5) Do they really believe a couple will have sex three times every night and twice again the next morning? (6) Do they really believe most women's panties get completely soaked through? (7) ... well, I'm running low on imagination.

But cock size in real life? I haven't been involved in many conversations about that, but I'd imagine it's one of the low-intensity issues for a lot of men, and I imagine there are both men who are small enough that it makes a difference, and men large enough that they could be uncomfortable for their partners.* But I've never had a guy complain or brag about that. One guy I corresponded with told me about a ship captain who had what seemed an unusually wide cock (they were swapping aboard ship, in a single cabin). You know, that's about it.

I wrote a story in which a paramour's large cock was important -- to the MC, not necessarily to the wife. And another, where the MC was a "grower, not a shower," and his affair partner thought it was "precious" how small it would get after sex. Oh well.
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* This finds its way into mainstream fiction such as "The Godfather." In the opening party scene in the movie, Sonny Corleone's wife is draw her hands apart to make a point to her friends, then there's a cut to Sonny doing it with another woman, somewhere else on the property. In the book, it's clear he has an originally large cock that is uncomfortable for his wife, and the woman has a vaginal condition that lets her take him more comfortably. Later in the book, there is surgery to "tighten her up."

 

[GoodnessO]

For the original "big cock" question, AngelaSaxon, let me ask some back: (1) do people really believe semen runs in a river down a woman's legs? (2) Do they really believe men come in quarts? (3) Do they really believe most women can -- and do -- deep throat a man? (4) Do they really believe most women like to drink semen? (5) Do they really believe a couple will have sex three times every night and twice again the next morning? (6) Do they really believe most women's panties get completely soaked through? (7) ... well, I'm running low on imagination.

But cock size in real life? I haven't been involved in many conversations about that, but I'd imagine it's one of the low-intensity issues for a lot of men, and I imagine there are both men who are small enough that it makes a difference, and men large enough that they could be uncomfortable for their partners.* But I've never had a guy complain or brag about that. One guy I corresponded with told me about a ship captain who had what seemed an unusually wide cock (they were swapping aboard ship, in a single cabin). You know, that's about it.

I wrote a story in which a paramour's large cock was important -- to the MC, not necessarily to the wife. And another, where the MC was a "grower, not a shower," and his affair partner thought it was "precious" how small it would get after sex. Oh well.
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* This finds its way into mainstream fiction such as "The Godfather." In the opening party scene in the movie, Sonny Corleone's wife is draw her hands apart to make a point to her friends, then there's a cut to Sonny doing it with another woman, somewhere else on the property. In the book, it's clear he has an originally large cock that is uncomfortable for his wife, and the woman has a vaginal condition that lets her take him more comfortably. Later in the book, there is surgery to "tighten her up."

#1 sometimes it nearly feels like a river, but of course its not... more like just a stream.
#2 no, absolutely not quarts.
#3 IDK how many, what % of women (or men) can deep throat a larger cock. But average size cocks don't go very deep, so yeah, probably most women can do that. With a 6" cock, for example, no struggle for me at all, the head barely gets in my throat.
#4 hmmm, do many women like the taste of semen?? Probably not the women who don't like to give bj's. But among those who do enjoy giving bj's?? For me, it depends on the semen. All semen doesn't all taste the same, & I think diet is among the factors. But I've never cum across semen that was unswallowable.
#5 Oh, those were the days!
#6 And those were more great days! LOL. Really depends on the thickness of the panty fabric. The more sexy panties tend to be made of thin fabric that's not very absorbent, so yeah, I think soaked through is not very uncommon, if a woman is quite horny.
#7 Sorry your imagination is running low, hope this helps, hee, hee.

 

[GoodnessO]

Sorry for butting in on the question posed to AngelaSaxon. I just felt compelled to through in my 5 cents.

 

[tripleflip]

Am I really the only person who finds all capacity to enjoy a story disappears the moment I get to the bit where someone writes the central female character as thinking:

"Ohmygod I'm being betrayed by my body, I'm getting wet against my will/when my ideas of my own sexuality say I shouldn't, am I a slut who wants to be dominated, who wants to obey this person growling manly instructions at me? I do! I am! I'm joyfully subservient and obedient!" etc...

I'd mention a particular story but in all honesty it feels like hundreds, and not in the BDSM section...

I know some women write broadly similar things, but I feel like the massive misinterpretation of the meaning of a vagina lubricating has to be a manifestation of something guys think or pretend to believe, surely?

I don't know, maybe it's a convenient short-hand in erotic writing, like implicitly pretending people don't have teeth whenever writing a blowjob scene.

But it feels closer to the ones that aren't just convenient for writing but convenient for fitting into particular... views.

Like some guy read that some women orgasm while being raped and ever since that's been a shorthand for whatever they wish - she loves being treated that way/discovers she's a sub, or proving a woman is a 'slut' (a creature more fictional than a futa) - and of course the orgasm forced upon a woman is always the most mind-blowing and sexuality-changing of her life. (Comparison with the actual experience of women who have had this happen would distinctly suggest otherwise but comparison would also be in bad taste. Like comparing superheroes getting powers from radiation to the actual experiences of people living around Hiroshima at the end of WW2...)

Anyway, like I say I didn't want to name a particular story for including that initial paragraph, but...am I the only one who is wrenched out of a story every time that paragraph appears?

Guys watch way too much porn.

 

[SomaSlave]

Guys watch way too much porn.

You know what they say: those who can't get, watch.

 

[WCSGarland]

You know what they say: those who can't get, watch.

I can't get my wife to let me tie her up... I guess that's why I like to watch bondage porn.

 

[AngelaSaxon]

Really good question whether, & how many, men believe in a loose pussy syndrome caused by large cocks, or lots of intercourse in general.
Or if the idea is more similar to a really good bj with deep throating. I read in a thread, a guy saying, receiving deep throating ruined him for "regular" bj's... they just couldn't compare.
Anyway, I was recently (2 days ago) I was with a man who's cock is on the smaller side, yet as he was penetrating me, he said, "You've got really tight box." And I wasn't even squeezing yet. I was just trying to relax & let him get in. My reply, "My pussy gets exercise."

Exactly, which is one reason these mythologies aren't just wrong, they're literally the opposite of how female sexual biology works.

 

[AngelaSaxon]

#1 sometimes it nearly feels like a river, but of course its not... more like just a stream.
#2 no, absolutely not quarts.
#3 IDK how many, what % of women (or men) can deep throat a larger cock. But average size cocks don't go very deep, so yeah, probably most women can do that. With a 6" cock, for example, no struggle for me at all, the head barely gets in my throat.
#4 hmmm, do many women like the taste of semen?? Probably not the women who don't like to give bj's. But among those who do enjoy giving bj's?? For me, it depends on the semen. All semen doesn't all taste the same, & I think diet is among the factors. But I've never cum across semen that was unswallowable.
#5 Oh, those were the days!
#6 And those were more great days! LOL. Really depends on the thickness of the panty fabric. The more sexy panties tend to be made of thin fabric that's not very absorbent, so yeah, I think soaked through is not very uncommon, if a woman is quite horny.
#7 Sorry your imagination is running low, hope this helps, hee, hee.

4. Ohmygod I have, I so have. One of the genuine traumas of my life - literal flashes of memory with involuntary, publicly visible flinching, coming out of nowhere in the weeks following, maybe months. But it wasn't just the semen but also a broader hygiene issue. It's been years but my god even now attempting to describe it, it's bringing back enough of the experience to make me have to stop to avoid the risk of nausea...

Uncircumcised guys, wash under your foreskin for fuck's sake, literally. I swear this guy hadn't in months and my whole body is still capable of shuddering against my will just from the recollection.