Alvin Bragg’s Office Drops Charges against Dozens of Columbia Protesters Who Ransacked Campus Hall

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[ll74]

WTF are you talking about?

 

[RobDownSouth]

A Way to Intimidate Protesters’

Between April 18 and May 8, the NYPD arrested more than 600 people involved in demonstrations in and around college campuses in New York City opposing Israel’s war in Gaza. The vast majority of the demonstrators were hit with summonses for trespassing and other low-level offenses like walking in a roadway or obstructing governmental administration.

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“No charges stuck, so it really does just seem like NYU was using the NYPD as a way to intimidate protesters,” said Zach Samalin, an assistant professor of English who was visiting the student encampment with his family on the evening of April 22 when he was arrested and charged with trespassing and spent hours in jail.

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Arrest as a harassment technique. Then drop the charges.
Kabuki Theater folks.

Let's not forget the Whackadoodle Right here were chortling with glee that those folks who got arrested would forfeit financial aid, be thrown out of school and have the arrest as part of their PERMANENT RECORD....

None of that happened.

 

[ll74]

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Arrest as a harassment technique. Then drop the charges.
Kabuki Theater folks.

Let's not forget the Whackadoodle Right here were chortling with glee that those folks who got arrested would forfeit financial aid, be thrown out of school and have the arrest as part of their PERMANENT RECORD....

None of that happened.

They arrested people who were trespassing, though some people could've been swept up during the raid.

That is why they blacked out the cameras....so police couldn't get video evidence of people there.

If you break the law to protest, you should expect to be arrested and possibly charged. Whether you consider laws being enforced as being intimidation techniques seems like your own interpretation.

 

[RobDownSouth]

They arrested people who were trespassing, though some people could've been swept up during the raid.

That is why they blacked out the cameras....so police couldn't get video evidence of people there.

If you break the law to protest, you should expect to be arrested and possibly charged. Whether you consider laws being enforced as being intimidation techniques seems like your own interpretation.

They've dismissed virtually all of the "trespassing" charges against those who were protesting outside the campus buildings, charges still pending on those who actually entered the building(s). That's what my takeaway from the article was.

The police were used to quell a non-violent protest. Protesting =/= trespassing in America. Not yet anyway.

 

[ll74]

The police were used to quell a non-violent protest. Protesting =/= trespassing in America. Not yet anyway.

If you are trespassing, that is illegal. If you're protesting while trespassing, that is still illegal.

You can protest without trespassing.

Sometimes people won't press charges for trespassing if you're protesting, but it doesn't mean you aren't breaking the law and anyone who breaks the law to protest should absolutely expect to be arrested for doing so.

I think that it can be admirable that people risk being arrested for their causes, but the risk is there because they are breaking the law.

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

*shrug*

Lefties have the good sense to mask up and cover their plates when they protest. We still have due process in this country, at least theoretically, at least if no drones are in the area and if you're not the wrong shade of brown. If the pigs know that they ain't got enough shit on you to sway a jury of your peers, and if you and your lawyer know it too, then you walk.

Rather than muttering about how "yer a gawddam crim'nal or ter'rist if ye were a mask in public", maybe righties should learn to do the same. Lots of your comrades wouldn't be in prison if they had masked up before the Sixth.

 

[RobDownSouth]

If you are trespassing, that is illegal. If you're protesting while trespassing, that is still illegal.

You can protest without trespassing.

Sometimes people won't press charges for trespassing if you're protesting, but it doesn't mean you aren't breaking the law and anyone who breaks the law to protest should absolutely expect to be arrested for doing so.

I think that it can be admirable that people risk being arrested for their causes, but the risk is there because they are breaking the law.

"Trespass" has some very broad implication.
If I'm a student at Columbia university and I walk across the campus green to get to class it's not "trespassing".
If I'm a student at Columbia university and I walk with others in protest across the campus green it's suddenly "trespassing" because the campus president doesn't approve?

I am not buying that argument at all.

With the benefit of hindsight, the president of Columbia severely overreacted by calling in the NYPD to "break up" the protests. A vote of no-confidence by the majority of the campus faculty backs up my position. Columbia tried to fall back on the tried-and-true "but...but..OUTSIDE AGITATORS" defense but the vast majority of those arrested were students.

Israel's genocidal campaign in Gaza is having real-world repercussions around the world. I think it might be the height of irony that Israel's murder of tens of thousands of civilians to "make Israel safe" has had the unintended consequence of making Jewish students around the world less safe.

Is that fair or "right"? Nope. not at all. Two wrongs never make a right.

But as I'm fond of saying, actions have consequences.

Israel has deftly avoided any and all responsibility for their mass murders in the courts of law of the world....
not so much in the courts of public opinion.

 

[ll74]

"Trespass" has some very broad implication.
If I'm a student at Columbia university and I walk across the campus green to get to class it's not "trespassing".
If I'm a student at Columbia university and I walk with others in protest across the campus green it's suddenly "trespassing" because the campus president doesn't approve?

If you're breaking campus rules, it's possible that you would be considered trespassing. The camous is at their own discretion on involving the police. But they can any time they want.

I am not buying that argument at all.

It's not an argument. It's simple facts.

With the benefit of hindsight, the president of Columbia severely overreacted by calling in the NYPD to "break up" the protests. A vote of no-confidence by the majority of the campus faculty backs up my position. Columbia tried to fall back on the tried-and-true "but...but..OUTSIDE AGITATORS" defense but the vast majority of those arrested were students.

Being a student doesn't give you a right to be placed you shouldn't be.

Israel's genocidal campaign in Gaza is having real-world repercussions around the world. I think it might be the height of irony that Israel's murder of tens of thousands of civilians to "make Israel safe" has had the unintended consequence of making Jewish students around the world less safe.

Jewish students have a right to their liberty and ability to get to classes and other places just as any other student on campus. Anyone obstructing them could be reported to police and possibly arrested.

Is that fair or "right"? Nope. not at all. Two wrongs never make a right.

It's not. Protesting doesn't require being an asshole.

But as I'm fond of saying, actions have consequences.

Studying on campus.

Got it

Israel has deftly avoided any and all responsibility for their mass murders in the courts of law of the world....
not so much in the courts of public opinion.

Have fun at your next protest!

 

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Rebecca Lavrenz, 71, was found guilty Thursday after spending 10 minutes in the Capitol building on Jan. 6, according to FBI officials.

 

[ll74]

Rebecca Lavrenz, 71, was found guilty Thursday after spending 10 minutes in the Capitol building on Jan. 6, according to FBI officials.

There was video evidence of Lawrenz trespassing.

 

[ExxWhyZee]

Whatever needs to be seen will be seen.What doesn't need to be seen won't be seen

 

[ll74]

Whatever needs to be seen will be seen.What doesn't need to be seen won't be seen

Actual video or eyewitness testimony needs to be seen in order to prosecute.

 

[ExxWhyZee]

Whatever needs to be seen will be seen.What doesn't need to be seen won't be seen

 

[ll74]

Actual video or eyewitness testimony needs to be seen in order to prosecute.

 

[HisArpy]

Why am I not surprised?