All that's left to conclude regarding why anyone still supports Trump & Vance = their voters are racist.

If you think there is any group of people who are systemically disadvantaged, you help them on the basis of that criteria. Not their skin color, that's a racist perspective.
Oh, sorry, I didn't see this before asking the question above. Never mind. I know the answer.
 
Huh? Come on, even you must be aware that the basis of their being disadvantaged is their skin color.
If someone is disadvantaged on the basis of their skin color, then focusing on people who are disadvantaged will automatically help them, regardless of skin color.

Unless you hold the racist perspective that everyone of a particular skin color are all the same, then using a person's skin color as a determination of whether they are disadvantaged or not is completely flawed.

That's why democrats/leftists are racist. They don't target people on the basis of whether they're disadvantaged or not, they target them on the basis of attributes like skin color and just assert specific skin colors as 'disadvantaged'.

You don't get more racist than that.
 
Should've known, you were basing your answers on your misperception of us rather than reality. Shame on me.

If someone is disadvantaged on the basis of their skin color, then focusing on people who are disadvantaged will automatically help them, regardless of skin color.
Not necessarily. People are disadvantaged for different reasons, and when skin color is one of those reasons but not the only one, ignoring it as a cause will only exacerbate the problem.

Unless you hold the racist perspective that everyone of a particular skin color are all the same, then using a person's skin color as a determination of whether they are disadvantaged or not is completely flawed.
Well, yes, but here's where your reasoning is flawed: most progressives do NOT "hold the racist perspective that everyone of a particular skin color are all the same". Again, you're letting your own bias creep in here. We get it, you don't like progressives. You're entitled to your opinion but not your own facts, alternative or not.
That's why democrats/leftists are racist. They don't target people on the basis of whether they're disadvantaged or not, they target them on the basis of attributes like skin color and just assert specific skin colors as 'disadvantaged'.
Not the Democrats and leftists I know. And probably not the ones you know either. Yes, there are extremists out there, but tagging us all with their beliefs is like saying all conservatives think like David Duke.
You don't get more racist than that.
Oh, but you certainly can. Accusing Haitian immigrants of eating other people's pets is a pretty good start in that direction.
 
Not necessarily. People are disadvantaged for different reasons, and when skin color is one of those reasons but not the only one, ignoring it as a cause will only exacerbate the problem.
If someone is identifiably disadvantaged, their race is irrelevant. If you identify someone as disadvantaged on the basis of their race, that's extreme racism.
Well, yes, but here's where your reasoning is flawed: most progressives do NOT "hold the racist perspective that everyone of a particular skin color are all the same".
Sure...that's why (for example) democrats/leftists argue and think things like voter ID is somehow a disadvantage for non white people:

 
That's pretty much it. This Haitian affair seals it.

The Trump Campaign Wants Everyone Talking About Race

The former president and his advisers’ strategy is to make white voters afraid—and they don’t care if they have to lie to do it

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/09/trump-vance-campaign-tactic-racism/680009/

JD Vance’s Racist Populism

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/08/jd-vance-racist-populism-white-privilege-trump-harris/
You tell 'em. And never forget. They're the first to ever tell a baldface lie. And if EVERYBODY would get off their head-running asses and go to work then you would be to tired to even know the word RACISTS. ANYBODY that yard that office is a liar and a thief...............except Trump
 
If someone is identifiably disadvantaged, their race is irrelevant.
Not if their race is the root cause of the disadvantage.
If you identify someone as disadvantaged on the basis of their race, that's extreme racism.
Not as extreme as pretending race-based disadvantage doesn't even exist.
Sure...that's why (for example) democrats/leftists argue and think things like voter ID is somehow a disadvantage for non white people:
It is beyond well-established that the right's whole reason for pushing for voter ID is that it disproportionately affects nonwhites. It's certainly not out of any genuine concern for the security of our elections, given how rare voter fraud is. I fully expect this to go in one ear and out the other, but in case someone else is reading this and in any danger of falling for that one...
  • Black and Latino voters, especially older ones, are far likelier to have been born at home rather than in a hospital, and in places where the local powers were more than happy to ignore the birth of another nonwhite baby, so they're less likely to have a birth certificate.
  • Poor urban voters - who can't afford a car and probably don't really need one, hence they don't have a driver's license - are disproportionately Black.
  • Rural and urban alike, poor people are far less likely to ever get on a plane, hence they never need an ID to buy a plane ticket.
  • Don't even start on getting carded to buy liquor; you know damn well you had an older friend when you were underage to buy for you. The same goes for people with no ID, besides once you're over 30 no one ever asks for ID.
  • After the Coathanger Five gutted the Voting Rights Act, there were numerous documented cases of Southern states closing down their DMV offices in predominantly Black counties. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out why.
 
so let me get this right, if a Black Americans votes for Trump, they are racists too? Because a lot are gonna. So are they racists, or do ya'all have some other name for them? Name calling seems to be the lefts thing. Loudly too.
 
so let me get this right, if a Black Americans votes for Trump, they are racists too?
Quite probably. (Yes, some leftists think nonwhites can't be racist by definition. I am not one of them.) Even if their reasons for voting for him are not racist, the fact remains that for whatever reason, they are willing to vote for a racist.
Because a lot are gonna.
A lot more - as in probably 90% - are NOT "gonna".
So are they racists, or do ya'all have some other name for them? Name calling seems to be the lefts thing. Loudly too.
If the shoe fits...
 
If you think 400 years of systemic abuse did not have an impact on a particular group of people...I'm not sure if I'd say it makes you racist, but it certainly makes you stupid.

I feel dreadfully impacted and abused by a couple of hundred years of systemic white colonial oppression on one side, and of course dreadfully impacted and abused by a couple of hundred years of systemic Russian colonial oppression on the other. Did that disadvantage me in the slightest? Switching to the Chinese half, no it did not impact me. Nor any other Asian for that matter, except for the woke retards who would be better of heading back to China where they'd be used as organ donors if they opened their mouths the way they do here.

Why? Because our culture says work your ass off and respects education and discipline. We don't whine and cry and weep and wail and riot because of the systemic abuse we STILL suffer (remember those Asian kids rejected by the Ivy League schools). Nope, we do not. And when we do crime, we do it professionally and as capably as we do everything else. We excel despite the system abuse we experience from LEFTISTS and we assimilate culturally as well. My great-great grandparents may well have nibbled on the odd dog or cat, but my grand-parents who moved here do not and I certainly don't. We move somewhere, and we fit in. We dapot the culture, the language, the clothing and the names.

My first name is Chloe, not Xin or Mei or Pajeet or LaWonka whatever, altho I do have a Chinese middle name. Which is weird with a Polish family name but whatever. LOL. Anyhow, when you talk about racism the way you do, you are, one assumes, using a euphemism for blacks

Now, this is where you have to think a bit deeper about this. Most leftists use racism as a generic term of abuse, which has turned it into meaningless noise, like calling someone a fascist or a commie or extreme right. The words have lost their meaning, just as gay one meant happy and cheerful, was then appropriated to mean homosexual of whatever gender, and now is turning into a term of abuse. Calling someone a racist meanings absolutely nothing. Call me a racist and I will shrug and say sure, whatever, fuck off, dipshit.

Now, what you really mean is that (some) people, not necessarily because this applies very widely) do not like people with cultural traditions and behavioral patterns that conflict with their own.

For example, I do not like chimp outs. If a chimp out occurs somewhere I go, I will not go there again. If my neighbors have chimpouts, I will move. This is not racist. Note that I have not said anything about race. It is a behavioral pattern I dislike and avoid. If people are like me, and behave like me - ie, polite, considerate, helpful,, etc., I don't care what color they are, just as most do not care what color I am, and I have friends who YOU would definitely call racist, incorrectly, given that I'm not exactly white myself (dyed blond hair and blue contacts lens disguise put to one side for today). Unfortunately, we so see some stereotyping, which I guess you would also confuse with racism, but stereotyping is simply profiling based on previous learned or passed on experience.

Let's take violent crime as an example. A small subset of the US population commits a high % of violent crime. It's not racist to avoid that subset, just as it's not racist to avoid loud and obnoxiously noisy people or to avoid retards who watch CNN or who voted for Biden. It's simple self-preservation and the avoidance of unnecessary legal costs from having to shoot people. Not that they shouldn't be killed, they probably should be, but I personally prefer not to do that. Again, nothing to do with racism, simply risk assessment and profiling.

The same applies at a personal level. I prefer to deal with polite considerate people. I will stay away from areas where people are not polite and considerate. Call it culturalism if you will, but racism it is not.

Nope, we were pretty much past a lot of that shit back when Obama was first elected and turned "race" (aka black culture) into a divisive issue. So no, I don't give a hoot about systemic abuse of whatever. People just need to get over themselves, study hard, work hard and yeah, stop the violence. Like I said, reasons for stereotyping and really, I don't give a fuck for the excuses.
 
I will disagree with Rory's allegation that ALL Trump voters are racist.

They're in bed with an overt racist. By choice.

And then shaping the nation via their vote.
 
I would accept being culpable and tagged with that label in the same capacity, on the other side of that coin.
 
My first name is Chloe,
You do realize absolutely no one here believes that, don't you?
For example, I do not like chimp outs. If a chimp out occurs somewhere I go, I will not go there again. If my neighbors have chimpouts, I will move. This is not racist.
The term "chimp out" is in fact racist. You could have simply said you don't like it when people act aggressive or violent in public - most of us don't! - but you had to use a term that is derogatory to Blacks. So yeah, "Chloe", this is racist.
Nope, we were pretty much past a lot of that shit back when Obama was first elected and turned "race" (aka black culture) into a divisive issue.
That you believe he did that says a lot more about you than you think it does.
 
Trump enabled racists to be open about their racism.

Ever since the seventies people were wary about using derogatory terms like 'Chicongo' or 'chimp out' in public, now they feel that it's acceptable. They were privately enraged when America elected a president who was even half-black and Trump came out and said racist things loudly and publicly - and got away with it. So it became OK.
 
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