Alien working in America...

Vermilion

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Um... how?

The fiance is looking at jobs in the States because it's getting to the stage where he needs gainful employment and the States is good for Aerospace stuff, but all the American companies will only accept applications from American Nationals <sigh>

stress stress stress.

Wish I knew what he would be doing and where - will we be in this country? In this flat? <shrugs>
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Probably the easiest way to do it is to find a job there with a company that has offices here.

Not easy, I know.

(Canada's easier ;) )
 
cloudy said:
Probably the easiest way to do it is to find a job there with a company that has offices here.

Not easy, I know.

(Canada's easier ;) )

Now that would be nice :)

It's likely he'll get offered a Post Doc at the same University where we currently reside, but he needs some backup plans. problem is everyone contracts aerospace design out to subsidiary companies.
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Vermilion said:
Now that would be nice :)

It's likely he'll get offered a Post Doc at the same University where we currently reside, but he needs some backup plans. problem is everyone contracts aerospace design out to subsidiary companies.
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So why not aim for those? Looks like that's where the specialized competence pools. That's the way that industry works, a huge mesh of mid level to small niched subsidiaries, despite the fact that aerospace design is always humongous projects. (Writing an article at the moment about how areospace project management is a royal bitch of a problem, and how a solution is being worked upon.)
 
Liar said:
So why not aim for those? Looks like that's where the specialized competence pools. That's the way that industry works, a huge mesh of mid level to small niched subsidiaries, despite the fact that aerospace design is always humongous projects. (Writing an article at the moment about how areospace project management is a royal bitch of a problem, and how a solution is being worked upon.)

We're just trying to research who those companies are. I mean any idiot has heard of Boeing, Airbus etc, but who knows their subsidiaries?
<googles>
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Vermilion said:
We're just trying to research who those companies are. I mean any idiot has heard of Boeing, Airbus etc, but who knows their subsidiaries?
<googles>
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Too bad I don't have the contacts I used to have.

(My brother-in-law retired from Boeing, and my father retired from Raytheon)
 
cloudy said:
Too bad I don't have the contacts I used to have.

(My brother-in-law retired from Boeing, and my father retired from Raytheon)

Not what you know, but who... :)

Seriously though, I find it hard to believe that anyone would not want to employ him, he has the most illustrious academic career behind him, as well as a damn good CV and he's personable and intelligent and hard-working - they'd be idiots to not employ him. <waves the pom poms about a bit>

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Vermilion said:
Not what you know, but who... :)

Seriously though, I find it hard to believe that anyone would not want to employ him, he has the most illustrious academic career behind him, as well as a damn good CV and he's personable and intelligent and hard-working - they'd be idiots to not employ him. <waves the pom poms about a bit>

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Sadly, in many cases it is exactly who you know.

He'll find something worthy, I have faith. :)
 
cloudy said:
Sadly, in many cases it is exactly who you know.

He'll find something worthy, I have faith. :)

Me too :) Though I would like to know where we'll end up.
He's looking at Boeing now and they state US citizen only in *all* the job vacancies.
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Vermilion said:
Um... how?

The fiance is looking at jobs in the States because it's getting to the stage where he needs gainful employment and the States is good for Aerospace stuff, but all the American companies will only accept applications from American Nationals <sigh>

stress stress stress.

Wish I knew what he would be doing and where - will we be in this country? In this flat? <shrugs>
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While on my road trip yesterday, I was listening to NPR. They were talking about H1B visas, these are the types of visas that get highly skilled workers into the US.

The quota for H1B visas is about 65,000 per year. They opened up the application process three days ago, and already have over 120,000 applications. The application period has now been closed. They will be reopen applications for H1B visas in October of 2008.

I was in a bit of the same boat as your fiance, I am or was a radar technician, but in order to get a job in that field in the US, I would have had to give up my Canadian citizenship, something that I was, and still unwilling to do.

Good luck...
 
Vermilion said:
Um... how?

The fiance is looking at jobs in the States because it's getting to the stage where he needs gainful employment and the States is good for Aerospace stuff, but all the American companies will only accept applications from American Nationals <sigh>

stress stress stress.

Wish I knew what he would be doing and where - will we be in this country? In this flat? <shrugs>
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Apply anyway. If he is good enough the rules will be fixed. They were for me in almost identical circumstances.
 
colddiesel said:
Apply anyway. If he is good enough the rules will be fixed. They were for me in almost identical circumstances.

Sorry I did not explain myself. My US employers both included a US citizens only rule because they had to show the US government that they were seeking US citizens first. This provided them with their documentary defence to bureaucratic critisism.

However if a foreign applicant has the skill set they want they will do everything they can to get him.
 
Excellent - have relayed this to the fiance and he's perked up no end :)
Thanks all, will let you know where we end up :)
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Vermilion said:
We're just trying to research who those companies are. I mean any idiot has heard of Boeing, Airbus etc, but who knows their subsidiaries?
<googles>
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*ahem*

Ajilon Engineering
Alenia Aeronautica
ARTTIC
Avio
BAE SYSTEMS
CIMPA
Dassault Aviation
Dassault Systèmes
EADS CCR
EADS
Empresarios Agrupados Internacional
EPM Technology
ESOCE NET
Eurocopter SAS
Eurostep Group
Hewlett-Packard Limited
Hydro-Control-Steuerungstechnik
Inbis Limited
Industria de Turbopropulsores
ISIGHT Software SARL
Leuven Measurements & Systems International N.V.
Messier-Dowty Limited
MSC.Software
MTU Aero Engines
Rolls-Royce Deutschland Ltd & Co KG
Rolls-Royce plc
Samtech SA
Snecma Moteurs
Techspace Aero SA
Thales Avionics
Thales Avionics Electrical Systems SA
Turbomeca SA
Volvo Aero Corporation
Xerox Italia

This is mostly for Europe though, but many of those are multi-continental, or whatever it's called when they operate in the States too.
 
Liar said:
*ahem*

Ajilon Engineering
Alenia Aeronautica
ARTTIC
Avio
BAE SYSTEMS
CIMPA
Dassault Aviation
Dassault Systèmes
EADS CCR
EADS
Empresarios Agrupados Internacional
EPM Technology
ESOCE NET
Eurocopter SAS
Eurostep Group
Hewlett-Packard Limited
Hydro-Control-Steuerungstechnik
Inbis Limited
Industria de Turbopropulsores
ISIGHT Software SARL
Leuven Measurements & Systems International N.V.
Messier-Dowty Limited
MSC.Software
MTU Aero Engines
Rolls-Royce Deutschland Ltd & Co KG
Rolls-Royce plc
Samtech SA
Snecma Moteurs
Techspace Aero SA
Thales Avionics
Thales Avionics Electrical Systems SA
Turbomeca SA
Volvo Aero Corporation
Xerox Italia

This is mostly for Europe though, but many of those are multi-continental, or whatever it's called when they operate in the States too.


<jumps on Liar and snogs the face off him>
thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
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One of the problems with aerospace jobs is that they very frequently require a government security clearance. You basically need to be a US citizen to get a security clearance.

A lot of foreign nationals work in information technology jobs where they can use computer expertise without having to get a security clearance.

I don't have any solution, but thought I might define the problem a bit.

Good luck!
 
R. Richard said:
One of the problems with aerospace jobs is that they very frequently require a government security clearance. You basically need to be a US citizen to get a security clearance.

A lot of foreign nationals work in information technology jobs where they can use computer expertise without having to get a security clearance.

I don't have any solution, but thought I might define the problem a bit.

Good luck!

I worked in two outfits dealing with highly classified stuff . Both organisations employed in excess of 15% foreign nationals and the foreigners were almost 30% of the senior technical staffin one instance and 25% in the other - and I am talking Big companies. I repeat that if you have the skill the visa /security issues will get fixed by the US bosses.
 
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