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Alien: Covenant

Better be a whole lot better than Prometheus. Aliens 3 was better. I can understand an alien culture seeding worlds with DNA and life. And even be around to interact with ancient civilizations. But still no reason to toss out 300 years of Darwin. Seeding could have occurred at same time life actually developed on Earth. Maybe even evolution being guided. Could have made it much more scientifically believable.

Waste of two hours. Aliens 3 was far better.

Don't hold out much hope for Covenant if based on Prometheus precedents.

First movie scary as fuck! 2nd a good shoot'em up. 3rd could have been worse. 4th again a good shoot'em up. Prometheus blew big time!
 
Dan O'Bannon wrote two screenplays about an alien loose on a spaceship. "Alien" was the second one. The idea was reworked from his and John Carpenter's student comedy, "Dark Star".
 
Hard_Rom said:
Better be a whole lot better than Prometheus. Aliens 3 was better. I can understand an alien culture seeding worlds with DNA and life. And even be around to interact with ancient civilizations. But still no reason to toss out 300 years of Darwin. Seeding could have occurred at same time life actually developed on Earth. Maybe even evolution being guided. Could have made it much more scientifically believable.

Waste of two hours. Aliens 3 was far better.

Don't hold out much hope for Covenant if based on Prometheus precedents.

First movie scary as fuck! 2nd a good shoot'em up. 3rd could have been worse. 4th again a good shoot'em up. Prometheus blew big time!
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Well, Covenant is the sequel to Prometheus and it seems to concern itself more with David the synthetic over Elizabeth Shaw, but I gotta see how they work that out. From the IMDB deets, Covenant is the name of a colony ship that (maybe) runs into the Engineer homeworld that Liz and Dave decided to confront at Prometheus' end.

Now, let it be said that I don't hate Prometheus. I like it in an "okay" kinda way. In fact, I own the disc and I revisit it on occasion. Visually stunning. Great concepts, good tense-mounting scenes, pushes things forward quite well as a backstory for the original franchise, but...I admit, sloppy writing that loses focus with the characters involved. I didn't like the lazy way some of the crew bought the farm in that flick, like with Idris Elba's character and his co-pilots suicide diving for nothing, really. That just squandered whatever flavor they were bringing to the content. And Charlize Theron's character felt totally useless, even though I know she was revealed to be Peter Weyland's daughter with her own agenda on top of a secret mission or whatever. All those shits should've been reworked and sharper.

The stronger action scenes, like the silicon storm wrecking shop, the surgery pod alien extraction (best part of the movie), the revived engineer rampaging and his (it's?) fight with the beta alien, there should've been more of that instead of useless exposition with crew characters that eventually didn't matter for much. I mean, getting mashed by a falling spaceship when you could've ran sideways?

...but I digress. I'm a solid Alien franchise fan from jump who has all of the movies, (including the half-shitty AVP ones) and I believe in this. :D Here's what Ridley Scott does best with this, he gets the tone of it all perfectly.

I'm looking forward to this joint over Bloomkamp's franchise revision that nixes out Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection. I wholeheartedly believe that was a stupid move and that you could've continued the original canon forward from Resurrection with many ideas.
 
And makes us cheap clone knockoffs compared to Predators too. I liked the tie-in to the Alien and Predator universes.

I can't see spending money to watch Covenant. Maybe when it comes out on disc and goes on sale at used disc shop for 3 bucks. If Prometheus is any indication.

I had no issues with dumb characters dying stupidly. Waste of talent having Charlize in the movie. Campiness and gratuitous violence I can live with. Unbelievable plot is something else.
 
I'm cautiously optimistic. We've been burnt before.
 
If I recall, the OP doesn't pay to go to movies...he sneaks in the back door. :)
 
Honestly if the franchise weren't so damaged I would say go for a trilogy, the Earth Wars novels are pretty solid.
 
Disgustipated said:
Fake liver cancer running amok in a Z00mie thread.
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A facehugger probably gave it to him. :D

Sean Renaud said:
Honestly if the franchise weren't so damaged I would say go for a trilogy, the Earth Wars novels are pretty solid.
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Those were boss, but unfortunately those came out after Aliens and Alien 3 killed that possible storyline vector. Unless Bloomkamp's revision goes in that direction.

gotsnowgotslush said:
It is always enjoyable to see the creatures give us a run for our "monies."
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The xenomorphs are some of the best beasties ever. Get ready for a bug hunt! ;)
 
Hopefully it doesn't suck balls.


And Prometheus was damn good I thought. Pure Ridley Scott. It could have had about 15 minutes shaved off though.
 
I don't think you really have to work that hard, you just make the AVP movies officially part of the cannon. Weyland Yutani eventually finds an alien you get a queen earthside and essentially spend the first movie telling a zombie movie with the zombies replaced with fast, acid blooded monsters. Just copy past World War Z with better acting and more coherence.
 
Morbid and inappropriate much?

And yeah I knew they got screwed. It just got lost in the Trump's a douche shuffle like nearly everything else.
 
I want horror back in my Alien movies. I don't want increasingly-shitty retellings of the same story. I don't want it to be a Cameron-esque shoot-'em-up.

I liked Prometheus, but I don't need the Alien universe explained to me. I don't need to learn humanity's reason for being.

I want to have the piss scared out of me. Otherwise, don't waste my time on more of these goddamn movies.
 
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