Alcatraz

[Lazaran]

I’ve seen ads for Rexulti, a drug to treat agitation caused by Alzheimer’s. Maybe he should give it try.

First, Derpy would have to make sure Rexulti doesn’t interact badly with the weak-spine medication that Derpy is addicted to.

 

[Rightguide]

(Oh, and as my profile mentions I am British, so it is not 'our' communist judges who will be involved in this it will be 'your' communist judges. And well done with that 'capital letter' issue that you had. Much better).

My apologies for the mistaken implication. I'm probably not wrong, however, in assuming you sympathize to a degree with the ideology, though. I wouldn't doubt that you thought Robin Hood majored in gender theory and outsourced the archery to a bureaucracy.

 

[Rightguide]

I’ve seen ads for Rexulti, a drug to treat agitation caused by Alzheimer’s. Maybe he should give it try.

Maybe you should give it a try.

 

[Crownvic]

Going to leave this here.

Hopefully it brings at least one person to their senses that prisoners are prisoners for a reason and giving them early release and/or comfortable lives and counseling doesn't change who they are.

Prisons aren’t suppose to comfortable..called hard time..not a nice place..

 

[Politruk]

Prisons aren’t suppose to comfortable..called hard time..not a nice place..

There's no good reason why they shouldn't be comfortable.

The purpose of incarceration is not punishment.

The purpose of incarceration is not rehabilitation.

The purpose of incarceration is incarceration.

Taking a criminal out of circulation for a while is always the most we can reasonably hope to accomplish.

 

[LoneMilf]

Brought to you by those who would reform our prison system and have an financial and personal incentive in seeing their ideas move forward.

Here is a more nuanced picture showing the different effects of different approaches in Europe and the US:

Incarceration rates have tripled in the US and almost doubled in Western Europe over the past 50 years. This column uses data on the criminal behaviour and labour market outcomes of every Norwegian to show that in contrast to the US, where incarceration appears to encourage reoffending and damages labour prospects, the Norwegian prison system is successful in increasing participation in job training programmes, encouraging employment, and discouraging crime. It argues that Norway’s high rehabilitation expenditures are more than offset by the corresponding benefits to society.

The full text is an interesting read and can be found here:
https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/incarceration-can-be-rehabilitative

 

[Politruk]

I wouldn't doubt that you thought Robin Hood majored in gender theory

He would have if it existed then.

You can tell by the tights.

 

[LeahWill]

My apologies for the mistaken implication. I'm probably not wrong, however, in assuming you sympathize to a degree with the ideology, though. I wouldn't doubt that you thought Robin Hood majored in gender theory and outsourced the archery to a bureaucracy.

I'm sure people will decide for themselves why you preferred to introduce my assumed attitude toward Robin Hood as your response rather than address the point of my actual query.

 

[RobDownSouth]

First, Derpy would have to make sure Rexulti doesn’t interact badly with the weak-spine medication that Derpy is addicted to.

"weak spine medication"? You DO know we can say "Oxycontin" on this board, right? It's not against the hallowed Terms of Service, although pre-rehab Vetteman did get his hand slapped for asking if anyone had any spare Oxys they could send him......

 

[Rightguide]

I'm sure people will decide for themselves why you preferred to introduce my assumed attitude toward Robin Hood as your response rather than address the point of my actual query.

People are always free to decide, even you.

 

[Lazaran]

"weak spine medication"? You DO know we can say "Oxycontin" on this board, right? It's not against the hallowed Terms of Service, although pre-rehab Vetteman did get his hand slapped for asking if anyone had any spare Oxys they could send him......

Well, 1) I don’t know if Derpy takes OxyContin or some other heavy med., and 2) I enjoy working Derpy’s “weak-spine” self-dox into as many posts as possible. (It probably is Oxy.)

 

[LeahWill]

People are always free to decide, even you.

Your white flag is accepted. I am not one to further punish the defeated.
Have a lovely rest of your day.

 

[HisArpy]

Here is a more nuanced picture showing the different effects of different approaches in Europe and the US:

Incarceration rates have tripled in the US and almost doubled in Western Europe over the past 50 years. This column uses data on the criminal behaviour and labour market outcomes of every Norwegian to show that in contrast to the US, where incarceration appears to encourage reoffending and damages labour prospects, the Norwegian prison system is successful in increasing participation in job training programmes, encouraging employment, and discouraging crime. It argues that Norway’s high rehabilitation expenditures are more than offset by the corresponding benefits to society.

The full text is an interesting read and can be found here:
https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/incarceration-can-be-rehabilitative

Here's the part of the picture you're not giving;

In Europe (NOT the US), incarceration rates are lower because many of those who need to be deported or jailed are allowed to go free without bail. Meanwhile citizens know that if THEY report crimes, THEY will go to jail themselves. So they don't report crimes or criminals.

This is why in Europe, incarceration rates are lower. Thus, attempting to compare the 2 as if they're equal is an apples/oranges kind of thing.

 

[LoneMilf]

Here's the part of the picture you're not giving;

In Europe (NOT the US), incarceration rates are lower because many of those who need to be deported or jailed are allowed to go free without bail. Meanwhile citizens know that if THEY report crimes, THEY will go to jail themselves. So they don't report crimes or criminals.

This is why in Europe, incarceration rates are lower. Thus, attempting to compare the 2 as if they're equal is an apples/oranges kind of thing.

Do you have any sources to support that?

 

[Rightguide]

"weak spine medication"? You DO know we can say "Oxycontin" on this board, right? It's not against the hallowed Terms of Service, although pre-rehab Vetteman did get his hand slapped for asking if anyone had any spare Oxys they could send him......

^^^
He sounds like he's all out of Risperidone again.

 

[Politruk]

Meanwhile citizens know that if THEY report crimes, THEY will go to jail themselves.

Why?

 

[HisArpy]

So I guess this means you can't even begin to deport anyone until you have all the new prisons ready to hold the deportees in whilst sorting out the issues with the communist judges? Is that it? What is the timeframe for building sufficient capacity do you think?

(Oh, and as my profile mentions I am British, so it is not 'our' communist judges who will be involved in this it will be 'your' communist judges. And well done with that 'capital letter' issue that you had. Much better).

Based on the current stays against the government deportation efforts, it will be decades before the last illegal alien currently in custody is deported.

I wonder how they're going to like spending their lives in jail waiting on a deportation hearing?

 

[Politruk]

This is why in Europe, incarceration rates are lower.

In Europe, CRIME rates are lower.

So of course incarceration rates are lower.

 

[Politruk]

Based on the current stays against the government deportation efforts, it will be decades before the last illegal alien currently in custody is deported.

I wonder how they're going to like spending their lives in jail waiting on a deportation hearing?

They'll be released in 2029.

 

[LeahWill]

Based on the current stays against the government deportation efforts, it will be decades before the last illegal alien currently in custody is deported.

I wonder how they're going to like spending their lives in jail waiting on a deportation hearing?

Depending on how keen you are to find out I'd suggest asking them.

 

[Rightguide]

Your white flag is accepted. I am not one to further punish the defeated.
Have a lovely rest of your day.

How quaint, your proclamation of triumph, issued as if from atop an imaginary hill. I do admire the confidence it takes to declare a battle won while still lost in the fog of your delusions.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Do you have any sources to support that?

Facts are not Derpy's jam. Just trust his histrionic dipshittery.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

Here's the part of the picture you're not giving;

In Europe (NOT the US), incarceration rates are lower because many of those who need to be deported or jailed are allowed to go free without bail. Meanwhile citizens know that if THEY report crimes, THEY will go to jail themselves. So they don't report crimes or criminals.

This is why in Europe, incarceration rates are lower. Thus, attempting to compare the 2 as if they're equal is an apples/oranges kind of thing.

I really have no idea what kind of drugs you take, my dear, but thank you very much, I don't want any of it.
Let's just say that we've found another topic that you know nothing about and that you're lying to the world as you please.

 

[Rightguide]

Why?

Leftist governments oppose attacks in their constituencies.

 

[HisArpy]

Do you have any sources to support that?

A little bit of research on the googie woogie ought to inform you about the state of policing in the UK and Europe.

But, because I'm not a total skank:

In Scandinavian countries, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Italy, France, Belgium, West Germany, and Austria, there are disparities in how the crime problem is viewed and in incarceration rates. The United Kingdom has the lowest rate of homicide, but Sweden has the highest rates of theft and total criminality. The United States' incarceration rate is 10 times the Netherlands' rate and twice the United Kingdom's rate. The Netherlands has the least number of alternatives to incarceration and the lowest incarceration rate of all Western nations. The Dutch have kept prison populations low primarily because they are not willing to overcrowd and private probation officers and volunteer helpers have emerged as mitigators. Sweden has a three-tiered, noncustodial sanctioning system that includes the use of conditional sentences as a warning, supervision, and intensive supervision. Several European countries use day fines and permit an expanded role for police and prosecutors in dealing with minor offenses. Most countries have a ceiling on long sentences, except for intentional homicide. In general, Europeans share the views that crime prevention and reparation are more beneficial than punishment, that criminal policy and legislation should emphasize victim compensation, that prison sentences should be imposed as a last resort, that confinement of convicted offenders should be gradually replaced by rehabilitation and treatment, that social workers should be used in offender treatment, and that probation services should be expanded.
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-l...m-western-european-alternatives-incarceration

What that means is that Europe doesn't incarcerate criminals and instead prefers fines and social programs while criminals walk free to offend again and again and again. Even when they do put someone in prison, it's a last resort and for shorter periods.

Compared to the US which imposes jail sentences for criminals and grants parole or probation for minor offenders.

One is a jail as a last resort mindset, while the other is punish first then grant leniency society. The difference can be seen in the disparate incarceration rates. It has nothing to do with whether counseling inmates or social programs is the better program model over incarceration.