Alcatraz

[Rightguide]

Yes!
Thank you so much!
That's so nice of you, telling me such nice things about me!
I stopped reading street "star". I don't think the rest was important.

BS, You read the whole thing and now your pissed. No sense of humor.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

BS, You read the whole thing and now your pissed. No sense of humor.

You shouldn't draw conclusions about others from yourself.
I deal with people every day who are much better at being a pain in the arse than you will ever be. But cheer up! I'm sure you're doing your best within your capabilities.

 

[Rightguide]

You shouldn't draw conclusions about others from yourself.
I deal with people every day who are much better at being a pain in the arse than you will ever be. But cheer up! I'm sure you're doing your best within your capabilities.

I reached the correct conclusion, and my only intent was to challenge your glaringly unfounded bias, not to entertain it

 

[Politruk]

I reached the correct conclusion, and my only intent was to challenge your glaringly unfounded bias, not to entertain it

You'd be a star behind the pulpit in the Church of Convenient Untruths, a dedicated minister of delusion.

That's no "correct conclusion."

 

[HisArpy]

Alcatraz isn't really a viable prison anymore. It would cost too much to rebuild and wouldn't house enough when finished.

Trump would do better to build a new Supermax somewhere in western Oklahoma where the towns are dying. Cheap land, cheap housing, local employment boom, the list goes on.

I'd build it underground like the Mall of America to avoid any issues with weather.

 

[Meekly_Anna]

Wouldn't it be wiser to treat the inmates like human beings? Give them the dignity they deserve? Make sure they get a good education, prepare them for life on the outside, try to make them members of society so that they can be released and never have to go back?
That would result in more taxpayers and fewer inmates, who don't bring in money, but costs. And you would need fewer prisons, which also cost a lot of money.

 

[ll74]

For people like Bragg, Leticia James, Fani Willis, corrupt Federal Judges, Juan Merchan, and a whole host of criminal scoundrels scattered throughout the Democrat Diaspora.

What about them deserve justice? Be more specific.

 

[HisArpy]

Wouldn't it be wiser to treat the inmates like human beings? Give them the dignity they deserve? Make sure they get a good education, prepare them for life on the outside, try to make them members of society so that they can be released and never have to go back?
That would result in more taxpayers and fewer inmates, who don't bring in money, but costs. And you would need fewer prisons, which also cost a lot of money.

This has been tried several times. In every case the recidivism rate skyrockets to nearly 100%.

Why?

Because the people who commit crimes don't care about obeying the law. There's no rehabilitation program that will make them care.

And that's without even discussing the really violent ones and serial killers.

Prison is for punishment, not rehabilitation. Better yet, the prisons which are the hardest on the prisoners have the lowest recidivism rates.

Think about that when you go to sleep tonight.

 

[Rotadom]

So Donald Trump wants Alactraz upgraded and reopened, if it happens will it be ready for him to be the first guest.

 

[MajorRewrite]

This has been tried several times. In every case the recidivism rate skyrockets to nearly 100%.

Why?

Because the people who commit crimes don't care about obeying the law. There's no rehabilitation program that will make them care.

And that's without even discussing the really violent ones and serial killers.

Prison is for punishment, not rehabilitation. Better yet, the prisons which are the hardest on the prisoners have the lowest recidivism rates.

Think about that when you go to sleep tonight.

Don’t make things up and pretend they are true. It makes you look like a moron.

 

[Politruk]

For people like Bragg, Leticia James, Fani Willis, corrupt Federal Judges, Juan Merchan, and a whole host of criminal scoundrels scattered throughout the Democrat Diaspora.

Merchan is exactly what a judge should be.

 

[LoneMilf]

This has been tried several times. In every case the recidivism rate skyrockets to nearly 100%.

Why?

Because the people who commit crimes don't care about obeying the law. There's no rehabilitation program that will make them care.

Just a few facts:
Research shows that inmates who participate in correctional education programs have 43 percent lower odds of returning to prison than those who do not, and that every dollar spent on prison education saves four to five dollars on the costs of re-incarceration.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/prison-reform

 

[Meekly_Anna]

This has been tried several times. In every case the recidivism rate skyrockets to nearly 100%.

Why?

Because the people who commit crimes don't care about obeying the law. There's no rehabilitation program that will make them care.

And that's without even discussing the really violent ones and serial killers.

Prison is for punishment, not rehabilitation. Better yet, the prisons which are the hardest on the prisoners have the lowest recidivism rates.

Think about that when you go to sleep tonight.

Let's play a little game.
You have a choice. You will meet one of two people in the late evening in a lonely street.
Person 1:
Twenty years in prison, released today. Brutally punished, underfed for years, maybe raped a couple of times, dignity totally destroyed by the system, unemployed, knows that he's no future, no place to live, has nothing worth living for.
Person 2:
Twenty years in prison, released today. Had a cell of his own, was allowed to express himself, was treated with dignity, got therapy, knows and accepts his crimes, was trained on a profession of his choice, was released the first time after fifteen years under surveillance for a couple of hours, got a job outside after eighteen years, works outside for the same time, just goes to prison after work, commutes for a year without surveillance, has a flat for himself, made even first friends with his colleagues, has a live...
Take your pick.

 

[Politruk]

In Miami Beach, a widow spreads out her beach blanket next to a man. She says, "Gee, Mister, you sure look pale!"

"Well, that's because I just got out of prison."

"Oh?"

"Yes. I did 20 years for killing my wife. I chopped her up into little pieces, and cooked her in a stew."

"So! You're single!"

 

[HisArpy]

Let's play a little game.
You have a choice. You will meet one of two people in the late evening in a lonely street.
Person 1:
Twenty years in prison, released today. Brutally punished, underfed for years, maybe raped a couple of times, dignity totally destroyed by the system, unemployed, knows that he's no future, no place to live, has nothing worth living for.
Person 2:
Twenty years in prison, released today. Had a cell of his own, was allowed to express himself, was treated with dignity, got therapy, knows and accepts his crimes, was trained on a profession of his choice, was released the first time after fifteen years under surveillance for a couple of hours, got a job outside after eighteen years, works outside for the same time, just goes to prison after work, commutes for a year without surveillance, has a flat for himself, made even first friends with his colleagues, has a live...
Take your pick.

Your hypotheticals are unrealistic. Why? Because you have NO FUCKING CLUE what you're talking about.

As a lawyer I've spent a LOT of time in jails and prisons over the past 30 some years. Inmates aren't "underfed." They're not "brutally punished" either. There is some crime and assault inside but those who are in prison are there because that's their nature and they will victimize anyone if given the chance.

Your other hypothetical inmate who gets counseling and support has a greater than 65% recidivism rate. Which means that 65+ of 100 will return to jail/prison within a year after VICTIMIZING some poor innocent person, often violently, in the commission of yet ANOTHER rape, or stabbing, or shooting, or robbery, or assault/battery.

In the end, your view is to coddle those who, upon release, once again brutalize the public because you have NO FUCKING CLUE about what really happens in the world except what you've been fed by a media shaping a narrative. A narrative which might end up with you crying in a courtroom as the perpetrator of a crime gets sentenced while you get to go home afterward to loss and grief.

Until you realize this, you're nothing more than a child throwing a temper tantrum because someone stole your lolipop.

 

[ll74]

Your hypotheticals are unrealistic. Why? Because you have NO FUCKING CLUE what you're talking about.

As a lawyer I've spent a LOT of time in jails and prisons over the past 30 some years. Inmates aren't "underfed." They're not "brutally punished" either. There is some crime and assault inside but those who are in prison are there because that's their nature and they will victimize anyone if given the chance.

Your other hypothetical inmate who gets counseling and support has a 93% recidivism rate. Which means that 93 out of 100 will return to jail/prison within a year after VICTIMIZING some poor innocent person, often violently, in the commission of yet ANOTHER rape, or stabbing, or shooting, or robbery, or assault/battery.

In the end, your view is to coddle those who, upon release, once again brutalize the public because you have NO FUCKING CLUE about what really happens in the world except what you've been fed by a media shaping a narrative. A narrative which might end up with you crying in a courtroom as the perpetrator of a crime gets sentenced while you get to go home afterward to loss and grief.

Until you realize this, you're nothing more than a child throwing a temper tantrum because someone stole your lolipop.

You can just put the undesirables in a prison that isn't on US soil and forget about them.

Right, lawyer?

 

[HisArpy]

Just a few facts:
Research shows that inmates who participate in correctional education programs have 43 percent lower odds of returning to prison than those who do not, and that every dollar spent on prison education saves four to five dollars on the costs of re-incarceration.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/prison-reform

Brought to you by those who would reform our prison system and have an financial and personal incentive in seeing their ideas move forward.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Your hypotheticals are unrealistic. Why? Because you have NO FUCKING CLUE what you're talking about.

As a lawyer I've spent a LOT of time in jails and prisons over the past 30 some years. Inmates aren't "underfed." They're not "brutally punished" either. There is some crime and assault inside but those who are in prison are there because that's their nature and they will victimize anyone if given the chance.

Your other hypothetical inmate who gets counseling and support has a 93% recidivism rate. Which means that 93 out of 100 will return to jail/prison within a year after VICTIMIZING some poor innocent person, often violently, in the commission of yet ANOTHER rape, or stabbing, or shooting, or robbery, or assault/battery.

In the end, your view is to coddle those who, upon release, once again brutalize the public because you have NO FUCKING CLUE about what really happens in the world except what you've been fed by a media shaping a narrative. A narrative which might end up with you crying in a courtroom as the perpetrator of a crime gets sentenced while you get to go home afterward to loss and grief.

Until you realize this, you're nothing more than a child throwing a temper tantrum because someone stole your lolipop.

You’re a fake lawyer who makes things up and then throws a temper tantrum when you’re corrected.

 

[ll74]

Brought to you by those who would reform our prison system and have an financial and personal incentive in seeing their ideas move forward.

Like privatizing prisons?

 

[HisArpy]

Like privatizing prisons?

What does that have to do with the issues regarding inmates receiving counseling and support rather than punishment for their misdeeds?

 

[ll74]

What does that have to do with the issues regarding inmates receiving counseling and support rather than punishment for their misdeeds?

Which one is important to you?

 

[HisArpy]

Which one is important to you?

The one in which you'll shut the hell up and go away, taking your nonsense with you.

 

[ll74]

The one in which you'll shut the hell up and go away, taking your nonsense with you.

How's that ignore feature working for you?

 

[LeahWill]

Biden just allowed millions of new criminals to invade the country. New Prison space is needed.

Why do you need new prison space in America when Trump has promised you he will deport all those who 'invaded'?
(And you didn't need a capital 'P' for 'Prison' by the way. "New prison space is needed" is fine).

 

[HisArpy]

How's that ignore feature working for you?

Bless your little heart.