Air Bus

[Guest]

American Airlines should learn from Qantas and buy American jets.

 

[sarahuk4]

If you can't be bothered to identify yourself , dont make such comments .....grow up !!!!!!

 

[Starfish]

huh?

What?

Clampinganalmuscleringsaywhat?

LAUREL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET IN HERE!

 

[sarahuk4]

Sorry Starfish , got my hair off then ......I wont post anymore on this thread ok .......

 

[Starfish]

huh?


What?

Sarahuk, not you darlin.....
Unregistered is a sphincter, not you.


I apologise for the confusion, but you are fine.

 

[sarahuk4]

Thank you Starfish , I appreciate that , some people I know helped make some of the Airbus engines .....very sad ......and people who say things like that that unregistered guest .... really make me angry , so I blew a fuse , sorry ......

 

[Starfish]

No problem. It is sad that some people view things in such a trivial light, when so many are dead.

It is shitty, and it is so uncalled for.

Unregistered,
NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED YET! So can it!

 

[ShyGuy68]

Hey ????

I just went through a list of the most important airplane crashes the last 10 years, and these are the results:

Boeing - 7
Dc 8 - 1
Airbus - 5
Antonov - 1
Iljushin - 1
MD 11 - 1
Concorde - 1
Tupolev - 1
TU - 1
MD 87 - 1

so excatly was it that you were saying about Airbus?? It sure looks like it have been mostly american built aircrafts that have crashed.

Note: I'm not attacking american aircraft manufactors at all, just making a point towards the ???? asshole.

 

[Problem Child]

Those numbers mean nothing. A significant statistic would be the number of each type of plane that crashed per million miles flown or some similar measurement. There are a hell of a lot more Boeings flying than Airbuses.

 

[pabloback]

if you look a little closer to the crash statistics you will find that there have been at least 7 major incidents in the last yearwith the type of engine used on the crashed plane . i believe it was a pratt and witney engine
rolls royce and general electric engines have a better safety record

 

[Problem Child]

pablo-

The engine on the Airbus is a General Electric CF6.

 

[pabloback]

my apologies to pratt and witney ,
the cf6 has a lousy reliability record . that has been reported in british news reports .
the aircraft in question has had many safety checks in its lifetime and has passed them all
the no 1 engine was serviced 600 hours ago
the no 2 engine was serviced 7000 hours ago

 

[Problem Child]

Here is a link to statistics for fatal events (primarily crashes) per million miles flown for the most popular commercial aircraft.

http://airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm

 

[KillerMuffin]

Well, in extremely scientific testing, my paper airplane with the word airbus written on the side crashed just as often and as badly as my paper airplane with the word boeing written on the side of it. My cessna paper airplane, which was made by Dad and more aerodynamic, didn't crash nearly as badly, though it crashed just as often in testing.

The only possible conclusion is that one must ride the cessna paper airplane if one hopes to crash well and perhaps survive.

 

[Trinka]

I don't think anyone should respond to posts like this from people who don't have enough courage to use their own names.

What happened today is in no way funny. Almost 300 people were killed and heaven only knows how many families and people in Queens were hurt by this.

 

[lobito]

I would venture to say that the particular airline, and their mantinence practices have more to do with the failures, not to mention the air crews, rather than the actual plane models, or engine types, though I could be wrong.

I fly quite regularly on Boeing 737's, and 757's. Again I could be wrong, but as I recall Southwest Airlines has one of the BEST safety records out there, and they fly MOSTLY 737's. Ok, I've checked, and I was right, Southwest has in fact had ZERO fatalities, in 30 years of service, that's pretty fucking good as far as I'm concerned. While there have been many crashes of 737's from virtually all other airlines flying them.

I've only ever flown TWA once in my life, and I felt safer in my uncles Cessna, than on their plane.

While I'm NOT afraid to fly on "American made" planes, and in fact have ONLY ever flown on them. I fail to see how buying an "American" plane is safer, when in reality, it's the airline, not the plane itself, or the manufacturer for that matter.

 

[pabloback]

I would venture to say that the particular airline, and their mantinence practices have more to do with the failures, not to mention the air crews, rather than the actual plane models, or engine types, though I could be wrong.

While I'm NOT afraid to fly on "American made" planes, and in fact have ONLY ever flown on them. I fail to see how buying an "American" plane is safer, when in reality, it's the airline, not the plane itself, or the manufacturer
for that matter.

you only have to look at the causes of the crashes for the airbus a 300 to see that it is not necessarily an aircraft problem

 

[Closet Desire]

A recollection...

I recall many years ago watching an interview with a Boeing executive who was mocking Airbus' efforts to design and build a "fly-by-wire" airplane, complete with computer guidance that could prevent many of the pilot errors that have resulted in crashes such as failure to use flaps, too rapid descents, improper throttle settings etc. This guy leaned back in his chair and said he didn't think anybody would be interested in such a plane and that Boeing would stick with the "tried and true".

Of course, things turned out differently with Boeing losing considerable market share to Airbus and scrambling to design their own fbw systems. They have never regained share.

I don't know who flies the most miles or has the safest record--seems a bit moot anyway--but Airbus planes here in Europe probably log more takeoffs and landings (the most dangerous operation) than Boeings do. I understand they have an exceptional safety record, are easy to maintain, and quick to turn around.

It's always sad when a plane crashes because it affects so many people at the same time, but air travel is such a safe way to travel that we often take it for granted.