AIG execs fear for their lives and are actually being stalked

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/20/nyregion/20siege.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print

March 20, 2009
Scorn Trails A.I.G. Executives, Even in Their Driveways
By JAMES BARRON and RUSS BUETTNER

The A.I.G. executive who was nicknamed “Jackpot Jimmy” by a New York tabloid walked up the driveway toward his bay-windowed house in Fairfield, Conn., on Thursday afternoon. "How do I feel?” said the executive, James Haas, repeating the question he had just been asked. “I feel horrible. This has been a complete invasion of privacy."

Mr. Haas walked on, his pink shirt a burst of color on a slate-gray afternoon. The words came haltingly. "You have to understand,” he said, “there are kids involved, there have been death threats. ..." His voice trailed off. It looked as if he was fighting back tears.

"I didn’t have anything to do with those credit problems,” said Mr. Haas, 47. “I told Mr. Liddy” — Edward M. Liddy, the chief executive of A.I.G., the insurance giant — “I would rescind my retention contract.”

He ended the conversation with a request: “Leave my neighbors alone.”

Too late. Jean Wieson, who has lived down the block for 24 years, had stopped her car in front of Mr. Haas’s house before he arrived home. She was angry about the millions of dollars in bonuses paid to its executives, the credit-default swaps that brought American International Group to its knees, the $170 billion the federal government has spent to prop it up. "It makes me absolutely sick," she said. "It’s despicable. It’s disgusting what these people have done. They should be forced to give every cent back."

Those bonuses in years past helped make A.I.G. executives into prominent local citizens. They own big houses like Mr. Haas’s, with its three chimneys and its views of Southport Harbor and Long Island Sound in the distance. Some are well-known contributors to arts groups and private schools in Connecticut communities not far from the office park in Wilton that is the workplace of many of the employees in A.I.G.’s Financial Products division, which is at the center of the storm over bonus payments.

Now these executives are toxic, and those communities are rattled and divided. Private security guards have been stationed outside their houses, and sometimes the local police drive by. A.I.G. employees at the company’s office tower in Lower Manhattan were told to avoid leaving the building while a demonstration was going on outside. The memo also advised them to avoid displaying company-issued ID cards when they left the office and to abandon tote bags or other items with the A.I.G. logo.

One A.I.G. executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he feared the consequences of identifying himself, said many workers felt demonized and betrayed. “It is as bad if not worse than McCarthyism,” he said. Everyone has sacrificed the employees of A.I.G.’s financial products division, he said, “for their own political agenda.”

The public’s anger, he said, “is coming from bad facts as a result of someone else’s agenda — or just bad facts period.” Instead, he said, the so-called bonuses were in fact just payments that had been promised long ago to workers, including technical and administrative assistants.

A.I.G. employees are not the only ones seeking protection: An executive at Merrill Lynch, where bonuses have also come under fire, said that some employees had asked whether the firm would cover the cost of private security for them.

Scott Silvestri, a spokesman for Bank of America, which bought Merrill in December, would not respond to that claim, but said in a statement, “The safety and security of our associates is paramount, and we will always take the appropriate steps.”

And there may be more protests. The Connecticut Working Families party, which has support from organized labor, is planning a bus tour of A.I.G. executives’ homes on Saturday, with a stop at the company’s Wilton office.

“We’re going to be peaceful and lawful in everything we do,” said Jon Green, the director of Connecticut Working Families. “I know there’s a lot of anger and a lot of rage about what’s happened. We’re not looking to foment that unnecessarily, but what we want to do is give folks in Bridgeport and Hartford and other parts of Connecticut who are struggling and losing their homes and their jobs and their health insurance an opportunity to see what kinds of lifestyle billions of dollars in credit-default swaps can buy.”

A.I.G. paid the $165 million in bonuses to 463 of its executives, but in the uproar that erupted when the payments were made public, Mr. Liddy asked the employees to return much of that money. He said that many of them have agreed to do so.

The New York attorney general, Andrew M. Cuomo, said on Thursday that A.I.G. had handed over a list with the names of the bonus recipients. But he did not release the list. “We are aware of the security concerns of A.I.G. employees,” Mr. Cuomo said in a statement, “and we will be sensitive to those issues by doing a risk assessment before releasing any individual’s name.”

It was unclear exactly what measures the officials at A.I.G. have taken in the name of protecting the company’s executives. Officials at several police departments in Connecticut towns where A.I.G. executives live said they did not know about possible threats against the bonus recipients. “We haven’t heard of it,” said Sgt. Carol Ogrinc of the New Canaan police. “There have been no complaints made to our department.”

But several security companies in New York credited the financial crisis with a noticeable increase in some areas of their business, from protecting executives to dispatching bomb-sniffing dogs to check for trouble. “There is certainly anger among people about the economy and fear among corporate executives themselves,” said Patrick Timlin, the president of Michael Stapleton Associates, which provides bomb-dog teams.

And there is concern in places like Wilton that the scandal is tarring their town. “They’re blaming us,” said Konstantinos Papanikolaou, a manager at Orem’s Diner in Wilton, about a mile from the A.I.G. office.

Jay Fiedler of Trumbull, Conn., said his town was also a “victim,” initially of a brutal economic downturn that had been fueled by problems at companies like A.I.G., and then of the outrage that has coalesced around the bonuses that A.I.G. paid.

“It just so happened that it happened here,” Mr. Fiedler said. “The community is the victim of the fact that it takes place here.”

Others in A.I.G.’s neighborhood were clearly angry. Tamara King, an immigration specialist at a health care company whose office is adjacent to the A.I.G. quarters, said she feels disgust each time she walks past it.

"You don’t want to associate with them because it’s not a reflection on the state, it’s not a reflection on us," she said. But she added, “You have so many people out of a job, and these people think they can take the money and run."

The largest single bonus check, for $6.4 million, went to Douglas L. Poling, an executive vice president for energy and infrastructure investments. Mark Herr, an A.I.G. spokesman, said Mr. Poling had told him he was returning the bonus “because he thought it was the correct thing to do.”

Gerry Pasciucco, a former vice chairman of Morgan Stanley who was brought in by Mr. Liddy in November to wind down the financial products unit, said Mr. Poling had sold off roughly 80 percent of the unit’s assets. Mr. Pasciucco said the money from the sales would go to the government, which has handed more than $170 billion in bailout money to A.I.G. in the last six months.

“He’s done an outstanding job in winding down his investment books,” Mr. Pasciucco said. "He did it at the right time, and we’ve made money. We would be losing money today if we waited to sell some of these assets."

Mr. Poling’s father, Harold A. Poling, retired as the chief executive of Ford Motor Company in 1994. On Thursday, Cheryle Campbell answered the phone at Harold Poling’s house in Bloomfield, Mich., where she said she had worked as a housekeeper for 20 years. She said she was not surprised to hear that Douglas Poling had decided to give back his bonus. “You’d think, being in the kind of job he is, that he’d be one of those sharks,” she said. “But he’s not at all.”

Douglas Poling has lived in the same house on a dead-end street in Fairfield for 11 years. The local papers say that he and his wife have given generously to a homeless shelter, to the Westport Country Playhouse and the Fairfield Country Day School, a boys’ prep school where tuition runs as high as $29,300 a year.

But on Thursday, his house, like Mr. Haas’s, was being watched by private security guards.

Reporting was contributed by Cara Buckley, Kenny Porpora, William K. Rashbaum, Nate Schweber and Joel Stonington.
 
OH I feel so sorry for those guys...

I sort of really do. The rules of the game got changed on them unexpectedly, if you want to go for the baseball metaphor. Their coach is still playing by those old rules too, and the stadium is booing.

But these guys who are talking publicly about giving their bonuses back might be begin to appease the crowd-- I bet that anyone who doesn't want to will feel an awful lot of pressure to change their minds.
 
Yeah, all they have to do is give their bonus back--but to the government, not to AIG.

I have a friend who is one of these AIG executives (and who retired shortly after receiving his bonus). I'd ask him what he thinks, but he's already skipped to Hong Kong.
 
Yeah, all they have to do is give their bonus back--but to the government, not to AIG.

I have a friend who is one of these AIG executives (and who retired shortly after receiving his bonus). I'd ask him what he thinks, but he's already skipped to Hong Kong.

criminently, my mind is slow today. Duh. Hass, too, can get first-class nannies for his kids in Hong Kong.

Run for the border, Jimmy!
 
OH I feel so sorry for those guys...

I sort of really do. The rules of the game got changed on them unexpectedly, if you want to go for the baseball metaphor. Their coach is still playing by those old rules too, and the stadium is booing.

But these guys who are talking publicly about giving their bonuses back might be begin to appease the crowd-- I bet that anyone who doesn't want to will feel an awful lot of pressure to change their minds.
They're booing because the old rules were utterly rigged in favor of these execs at the expense of the rest of the country.

I say it's time for a revolution against corporatism.
 
They're booing because the old rules were utterly rigged in favor of these execs at the expense of the rest of the country.

I say it's time for a revolution against corporatism.
Yep, and most of the nation agrees-- suddenly. There was a carrot, all through the 80's and 90's, that we all might become CEOS too. Now, there's nothing but a stick.
 
Sicking fucking people who are giving these people hassle.

Want someone to blame? How about blaming the bastard who gave AIG so much money without a proper contract?
 
Sicking fucking people who are giving these people hassle.

Want someone to blame? How about blaming the bastard who gave AIG so much money without a proper contract?

Weren't the arrangements on bonuses set up long before that? I'd blame whoever wrote up the bonus agreements to give bonuses for any overall profit loss. Why give bonuses for nonprofitable work--even under capitalist enterprise principles? That's sort of a duh. And that happened within the corporate construct--didn't have anything to do with government. That's all private sector unfettered greed at play.
 

Michael Lewis is usually readable and is knowledgeable. Like myself, once upon a time, he worked in the investment field ( he on the "dark side" [ i.e., Salomon Bros and Wall Street ], myself for a fiduciary [ a/k/a the "buy side" ] ). Both of us eventually departed, unable to suppress our respective nauseated consciences and sense of ethics. Unlike Michael Lewis, I haven't authored a best-selling exposé. Unlike Lewis, I had the benefit of experienced and informed elders who, when I was still an impressionable youth, succeeded in instilling the idea that "Wall Street ethics" is an oxymoron. Lewis had to figure that out for himself. *Sigh*

His sojourn as a bond salesman for Solly was demonstrably effective at establishing that truth to his satisfaction; witness Liar's Poker.

A new career and writer was launched.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=atlHxXH7FweQ&refer=home

Mass Hysteria Over AIG Obscures Simple Truths
Commentary by Michael Lewis
March 20 (Bloomberg)

"Last September, the U.S. government began to dole out the first of $173 billion to American International Group. A big chunk of it passed right through to banks that had bought insurance from AIG against mortgage and corporate defaults -- foreign banks such as Deutsche Bank and Societe Generale but also some domestic ones, such as Goldman Sachs and Bank of America.

U.S. government officials then went to great lengths to disguise from the public exactly what they had done, and why, going so far as to declare the ultimate list of recipients of taxpayer funds off limits to the taxpayer. To its immense credit, the media -- or, rather, a handful of diligent reporters, the New York Times’ Gretchen Morgenson chief among them -- prevented the public officials from getting their way.

This incredible act triggered hardly any political backlash. In effect, the U.S. taxpayer had paid off AIG’s gambling debts. The end recipient of the money was not AIG, but Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank and the others..."

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"... But when AIG itself pays out $165 million in bonuses -- money it is contractually obliged to pay -- the entire political system goes insane. President Barack Obama says he’s going to find a way to abrogate the contracts and take the money back. A U.S. senator says that AIG employees should kill themselves.

Every recriminatory bone in the political body is aroused; the one thing you can do right now in Washington without getting an argument is to rail against the ethics of AIG’s bonus payment.

Apart from Andrew Ross Sorkin at the New York Times, it occurs to no one to say that a) the vast majority of the employees at AIG had as little as you or I to do with its quasi- criminal risk taking and catastrophic losses; b) that the most- valuable of those employees can easily find work at AIG’s competitors; and c) that if the government insists on punishing those valuable employees they will understandably leave, and leave behind a company even less viable than it is, and less likely to give the taxpayer back his money.

And also -- oh, yes -- that if the government can arbitrarily break contracts made by firms in which it has taken a stake no one in his right mind will ever again make a contract with one of those firms. And so all of the banks in which the government has investment will be damaged... "

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"...we can observe several general truths about the financial crisis, and the attempt to end it:

1) To the political process all big numbers look alike; above a certain number the money becomes purely symbolic. The general public has no ability to feel the relative weight of 173 billion and 165 million. You can generate as much political action and public anger over millions as you can over billions. Maybe more: the larger the number the more abstract it becomes and, therefore, the easier to ignore. (The trillions we owe foreigners, for example.)

2) As the financial crisis has evolved its moral has been simplified, grotesquely. In the beginning this crisis was messy. Wall Street financiers behaved horribly but so did ordinary Americans. Millions of people borrowed money they shouldn’t have borrowed and, not, typically, because they were duped or defrauded but because they were covetous and greedy: they wanted to own stuff they hadn’t earned the right to buy..."
 
TRYSAIL you just dont get it.

AIG and your other cohorts may have the legal right to fuck America, and they get all the help they need to fuck us from the President and Congress. Obama, himself, got 125K from AIG.

But Americans get a bit testy when your team brags about it and shows the pictures to the world.
 
The bikini barista at the expresso stand

didn't get a dime from AIG but that's not from a lack of trying.......
 
This AIG bonus thing might turn out to be beneficial. The shock of it mobilized anger enough so that even the corporate chiefs are taking notice and understanding that they might be burnt at the stake for it. Tonight's news reported that $30 million of the bonuses have already been turned back.

If I were the government, I'd post the names and amounts of the bonuses very publicly--and declare that the government won't give out any contracts in the future to any project that included any of the folks who are keeping the bonuses.

I think I'd also tell AIG we are splitting them into smaller parts (which "we" can do, since the public holds a majority of the stock now) and letting parts of it just die off--unless, of course, they get all of the bonus money back.

I think we have their attention now. Remains to be seen if the government uses the leverage it now has.
 
I think we have their attention now. Remains to be seen if the government uses the leverage it now has.

In fact, my favorite lawyer pointed out that the law for getting the money back from the AIG execs could well be unconstitutional in two ways: it's a bill of attainder (fascinating concept; for those of us who don't remember our civics classes well enough--I didn't--look it up) and it's also ex post facto legislation. It may well be deemed unconstitutional if there's a court challenge to it.

I'm not sure but what the idea is a good one, though.
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&tkr=AIG:US&sid=aJUBfj9Q0nBI

Aug. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Robert Benmosche, named this month as chief executive officer of American International Group Inc., said he expects the bailed out insurer will repay its debts to the U.S.

“At the end of the day, we believe we will be able to pay back the government and we hope we will be able to do something for our shareholders as well,” Benmosche said in an interview...
 
Trysail, when AIG was offered the money, they were told straight out that it was not to be used for bonuses, contractual obligations or not and they agreed to it before they got the money; bonuses were only to be paid after the government loan had been repaid with tier 1 capital - those were the explicit conditions of the deal.

They reneged after it had already been distributed to their creditors.
 
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