Ah, The Vaunted Democrat Constituency. I want some more, sir…

Fawkin'Injun

Off da Reservation!
Joined
Aug 7, 2003
Posts
10,402
Source: Refdesk.com

"Almost 70 percent of elderly Medicare recipients don't know the program's new prescription drug benefit has been signed into law, according to a survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation. A majority of those surveyed have an unfavorable impression of the drug benefit, which the President signed into law in December. About 55 percent said their impression is unfavorable, compared with 17 percent who held a favorable impression. The remainder had a neutral impression or no impression at all. Among those who knew the Medicare drug benefit had become law, an even greater percentage -- 73 percent -- had an unfavorable impression. Only a minority of those polled said they understand the benefit very well, leading researchers to conclude that many older Americans may be vulnerable to political grandstanding." ------ [Italics mine]

...

And both sides will be out there offering “more…”

Kaiser Family Foundation link at Refdesk.com
 
The Democrats have concluded that the reason Dukakis lost is because he didn't run a negative enough campaign, not because he was too liberal for the country. Hand on to your hat, this is gonna get nastier than a skanky ol' two-dolla' KC whore...

Have you seen the Moveon.org ads?

All I can say is, "Oh my Gawd..."
 
Fawkin'Injun said:
Source: Refdesk.com

"Almost 70 percent of elderly Medicare recipients don't know the program's new prescription drug benefit has been signed into law, according to a survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation. A majority of those surveyed have an unfavorable impression of the drug benefit, which the President signed into law in December. About 55 percent said their impression is unfavorable, compared with 17 percent who held a favorable impression. The remainder had a neutral impression or no impression at all. Among those who knew the Medicare drug benefit had become law, an even greater percentage -- 73 percent -- had an unfavorable impression. Only a minority of those polled said they understand the benefit very well, leading researchers to conclude that many older Americans may be vulnerable to political grandstanding." ------ [Italics mine]

...

And both sides will be out there offering “more…”

Kaiser Family Foundation link at Refdesk.com

You forgot to mention that the same study found that while it's true that only 30% of seniors were aware (at the time of the study) that the benefit had been passed and signed into law, that compared to the general public, seniors were better informed overall. Only 23% of the general public was aware at that time.

Your post is patronizing to a group that has always been at the foremost of those most affected by, and thus most interested in, this topic, and your reference to them (in the thread title) as a confused Democratic constituency is absurd. If it's true that they are Democrats, then the Democrats would have reason to celebrate for they'd have the group most informed about the new law on their side. And that would not be good news for Bush because once you know the details of this bill, the more you know it's crap.

Here's what I mean (from the study news release):

http://www.kff.org/kaiserpolls/pomr022604nr.cfm

Among seniors, those who know the law has passed are more likely to say they understand it "very" or "somewhat" well (58%) compared to those seniors who did not know the law has passed (31%). Seniors who knew the law was passed are also considerably more likely to say that they have an unfavorable impression of the law (73%) compared to those seniors who didn't know about passage (46% say unfavorable).

Why, do you suppose, that the Repubs delayed implementation of this bill until 2006, well after the next election? I think the numbers tell you why. They don't want even more seniors understanding this bill. It would be a political disaster.
 
I'm just pointing out that we spent 450 BILLION dollars and counting to bribe a voting block that's very under-appreciative of just what my child is going to have to surrender to pay the bills on this giant, humongous boon-doggle as the Clinton Generation and my generation extend our greedy elderly fingers for our rightful, promised benefits...
 
...and to be sure, didn't ya piss and moan over a measely 85 BILLION to buy the Iraqis enough time to establish a Constitution, which, btw, I believe they are about to do depite Al Qaeda's Horrendous act this week, and all your doom and gloom projections.

At least THOSE people get it, even if you don't!
 
Fawkin'Injun said:
I'm just pointing out that we spent 450 BILLION dollars and counting to bribe a voting block that's very under-appreciative of just what my child is going to have to surrender to pay the bills on this giant, humongous boon-doggle as the Clinton Generation and my generation extend our greedy elderly fingers for our rightful, promised benefits...

Who are you complaining to? The whole bill was Republican born and bred, for Christ's sake. Why drag Clinton into this? Last I saw, it was Bush who signed it into law.

I was the one who said the bill sucked, remember? (tapping Injun on the forehead to see if it's hollow...)
 
Fawkin'Injun said:
...and to be sure, didn't ya piss and moan over a measely 85 BILLION to buy the Iraqis enough time to establish a Constitution, which, btw, I believe they are about to do depite Al Qaeda's Horrendous act this week, and all your doom and gloom projections.

At least THOSE people get it, even if you don't!

Did I? I may have, but that's irrelevant anyway. There's a huge difference between spending 450 billion dollars at home, and spending 87 billion abroad, especially when the real reasons for spending that money in Iraq have little to do with helping the Iraqi people, and tons to do with helping American corporate and military interests.

I wouldn't even mind spending the money on military strategic interests, but in this case (as has been the case so many times before) I think that in the long run, the short-tern gain will turn into a huge detriment.

And despite your implications, I've never even said whether or not I'm for a prescription drug benefit of any kind. All I pointed out was the one that Bush pushed through sucks, and those it was intended to sway are more aware of that than anyone.
 
It may well be that the drug companies are the real beneficiaries anyway?
 
maybe i just havent been paying attention, but didnt the republicans used to put the blame on what the democrats are doing instead of blaming the dems for what theyre doing themselves?
 
Fawkin'Injun said:
...and to be sure, didn't ya piss and moan over a measely 85 BILLION to buy the Iraqis enough time to establish a Constitution, which, btw, I believe they are about to do depite Al Qaeda's Horrendous act this week, and all your doom and gloom projections.

At least THOSE people get it, even if you don't!

So, move to Iraq already.
 
Back
Top