Ageplay Revisited

[BiBunny]

There's been a bit of discussion about ageplay in this thread, on the last page. I mentioned there that I'd thought about starting a thread about the subject. It generated a bit of interest, so I decided I'd give it a shot.

I posted a thread a couple of years ago about the subject, but because I'd like to take a somewhat different tack than last time, I decided to start another thread rather than bump the old one.

I know this is something that's not discussed here much, mostly because it squicks folks. I'm hoping for an interesting discussion in spite of that. I'd like for people who are interested in or just curious about ageplay to ask questions and share experiences.

If at all possible, I'd like to keep the "OMG, that's sooooo gross!!!!" comments to a minimum.

I'll go ahead and talk a little bit about my "little" self, hopefully in a way that's less narcissistic ego masturbation and more a way to help the other folks who enjoy this kind of thing to open up.

My little is seven years old. I don't get into Daddy/girl or similar roleplays at all, so I guess that makes me kind of different from most ageplayers. When I actually was an elementary school-aged child, I would develop massive crushes on certain men (and sometimes women) who were 3-5 times my age. Because I was already a freak, I'd often tie myself up and engage in some masochistic self-play while imagining these older men and women were doing perverted things to me.

For some reason, nearly 20 years later, it's still freaking hot to me.

That's pretty much the way my ageplay scenarios play out. I am completely devoted to Master and Mistress, but my little is extra-devoted to them. The normal willingness to please and the desire for their love is magnified greatly when I'm little.

Usually, our ageplay scenes are sexual (but not always). They're often pretty service-oriented as well. I love to sit in the floor and rub Master's feet or snuggle with Mistress on the couch and play with her hair to relax the two of them after a hard day. I don't tend to get into the outer trappings of ageplay like some littles do. I rarely wear girlish-looking clothes or do things like color my Owners a picture or play little girl games. (Occasionally, it's fun, though.) Most of the time, my only concession to looking little is wearing my hair in pigtails.

Even though my relationship is not solely centered around this kind of thing, I can get caught up in my little persona for days at a time. It's not so much a certain set of behaviors as a particular mindset that I don't have the brainpower to explain at the moment. (It's late.)

Ok, this post is already too long, but there's lots more I'd like to add later, if anyone's interested. I'd love to hear questions/comments/stories from others, too. I don't want this to turn into Bunny's Very Own Rambling Thread.

Night, all. I shall eagerly await your responses.

 

[Netzach]

I like non-sexual play with select littles, or not overtly sexual play with them, the sexuality is embedded in the experience and the roles.

I know that's kind of weird, but to me, if you flag seven, ok, you're seven. We're going to color and play with barbies and watch Miyazaki movies and snuggle in your jammies with a book between us. If you're a horse, you're a horse. It's a combination of being really literal and really imaginitive.

The only anti ageplay bias I have is a kind of eyerolling toward screaming and misbehaving hordes of littles at events. I know it's your kink, but I don't like children generally much, and you're no different.

I haven't had the balls to tap my own little persona much, but I don't think she's changed much at all. I pretty much managed to make my family sit through my performances at any cost. WATCH me! H would actually be a good person to go there with, I should discuss this with him. It never really occurred to me that I could *really use* a submissive Daddy, not just, oh that might be interesting once.

 

[Erotic47]

I have fantasized about age play and done it many times in chat. I would probably not do it in real life but the thought of curious teen girl with Daddy is very hot to me.

 

[the captians wench]

Ya know, my normal personality is very much, well childlike.

I've been told this many times, and I often wonder if that's why people have a tendancy to want to protect me, or even spoil me.

My mom got upset once because we were in the store and I was gushing over something, so she bought it for me (this was just a year or two ago btw). But once I got it home, she noticed I just wasn't as excited about it. I admited to her that I loved it, but it wasn't something I actually expected to own. She was very upset and insisted that I acted like I wanted her to buy it. I told her that if I had actually wanted her to buy it, then I would have said as much, I don't expect her, or anyone, to buy me everything that catches my eyes. She then told me that I just get so excited over things that it makes her want to buy them for me, and she has spent her last dollar to buy me something that I was gushing over. Others have told me something simular.

My ex husband told me once that he wanted to break me of my childlike view on the world so I wouldn't get hurt latter. He said the world just isn't as happy as I seem to think it is. That act nearly distroyed me. It was like killing a part of myself.

I don't do tempertantrums, and I don't tend to act out to get my way. I do pout, but I know it does no good, it's sort of a reflex. And I wear my hair in pigtails when I go out, but Jounar hates them, so he restricts when I'm allowed to wear them.

Still, I don't really get into the age play. I don't pretend to be a certian age, it's just built in I guess. Giggly, bubbly, sencitive, it's just me.

 

[Homburg]

Still, I don't really get into the age play. I don't pretend to be a certian age, it's just built in I guess. Giggly, bubbly, sencitive, it's just me.

This is more what I am used to.

I have four kids, ages 3-9. I have no desire to roleplay anything even remotely sexual with someone that is acting out those age ranges. Yes, the idea squicks me out. BUT...

I am pretty curmudgeonly. Yeah, yeah, I know. I am attracted to women that display the sort of thing that wenchie is talking about here. Both viv and MIS possess a sort of innocent cheerful wonder, and their outlooks are almost opposite mine in tone. I love that. I feel like it balances me out, and I find that attractive.

So I don't get into ageplay, but I recognise the "little" in both of my girls, and appreciate it. I am happy that it does not come out in an overt, recognised manner, but glad it is there nonetheless.

And, as commentary riffing off of Netz' "horde of littles" comment, my nine year old daughter and seven year old son both act more mature, and intelligent, than most littles I've seen at conventions. The idea that being little is somehow license for poor behaviour is part of what annoys me about the concept.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I'm quoting BB from the 'Scat/paedo/besiality Forum' thread but it's probably more appropriate that I put my response here rather than continue to discuss consensual adult ageplay on a thread screaming 'paedophilia'.

The common thread I've seen in ageplay is the fact that nobody actually loses sight of the fact that this is a fantasy. No amount of hoping and wishing is going to make me, an overweight 25-year-old who is nearly 6 feet tall and has F-cup boobs, a child. No amount of fantasizing is even going to make me look like a passable child, even down a long, dark, smoky hallway when viewed by a person who forgot to put on his/her glasses.

My body, even clad in girlish clothing, is not going to turn on a person who has an affinity for actual children. Does that make sense?

While it's true that your size and shape are 100% womanly, mine OTOH is not. I'm 5ft tall and 110lb with B cup boobs and a baby face. If I dress like a child, I can be accepted as a child. Even if I bowl up to my local bar with my I.D. clutched in my fist, people will still do a double take as though I shouldn't be there and drinking age in the UK is 18.

If someone wanted to take the fantasy a stage further and suspend their belief to the point where I 'was' a naive, vulnerable minor to them, that would be completely unacceptable to me. Looking the way I do (and I'm not exaggerating either because I'd love to look my age and get taken seriously for 5mins) it's a real possibility. I'm 30 this month and I still look 16-18 years old. If I try to look sophisticated I look like a dolled up teen who's trying too hard.

So while I acknowledge that people who practise ageplay in a healthy way are acting out a fantasy and not seeking any involvement with minors, I think that there must be more governing the situation than the fact that BB is quite obviously an adult woman in her 20s.

I also accept that me looking like a teen is a more ambiguous concept than a 25 yr old being 7 but it falls within the same spectrum as far as I can see.

I suppose I also fail to understand how a 'little' can display childlike, innocent traits while still being considered a sexual being by the 'big' partner. How does it work to be 7 and also a sexual pyl? How do limits/tolerances/tastes/dynamics etc change when you're little? I'm curious as to how it all works.

 

[00Syd]

As per the hordes of littles thing: I've never experienced it since I've not yet been to a large event (hopefully that will soon change), but I've heard people talking about it as a consent issue. Like, all these littles, by walking around and interacting with everyone, everything, and with you as a little, they are essentially forcing you into their scene without your consent. Thoughts?

 

[intothewoods]

As per the hordes of littles thing: I've never experienced it since I've not yet been to a large event (hopefully that will soon change), but I've heard people talking about it as a consent issue. Like, all these littles, by walking around and interacting with everyone, everything, and with you as a little, they are essentially forcing you into their scene without your consent. Thoughts?

Sure, but people involve others in their scene to a lesser or greater degree all the time in public play. Like the PYL who takes his or her pyl around on a leash and says this is my bitch or something. Sometimes it's really subtle and sometimes it's not. Obviously, screaming anyones are annoying. I also don't like to interact with people pretending to be kids at events. It's just not my bag.

 

[Homburg]

As per the hordes of littles thing: I've never experienced it since I've not yet been to a large event (hopefully that will soon change), but I've heard people talking about it as a consent issue. Like, all these littles, by walking around and interacting with everyone, everything, and with you as a little, they are essentially forcing you into their scene without your consent. Thoughts?

Only sort of. If they were doing it in a non-event situation, I would agree. At an event, everyone gives an implicit consent to observe. By signing in to an event, you are explicitly recognising that things of a sexual/kinky nature will be occurring in your vicinity. It's no more an imposition than pony players in harness, or people that want to be addressed by title. That said, it can be rude, much as the person that demands a certain title is rude.

 

[BiBunny]

Yay! My thread didn't die a horrible death overnight, AND it hasn't been hijacked into "ZOMG, you're all pedos and freaks!!!!!!!!!!!!" I y'all so much.

I like non-sexual play with select littles, or not overtly sexual play with them, the sexuality is embedded in the experience and the roles.

I know that's kind of weird, but to me, if you flag seven, ok, you're seven. We're going to color and play with barbies and watch Miyazaki movies and snuggle in your jammies with a book between us. If you're a horse, you're a horse. It's a combination of being really literal and really imaginitive.

We do those kinds of things, too. Sometimes, they buy me stuffed animals and surprise me with them at home just to watch my eyes light up. Lots of times, the emphasis is just on snuggling (more on that later).

As for the sexual part, well, we're dirty pervs. That's about the only explanation I have for it.

The only anti ageplay bias I have is a kind of eyerolling toward screaming and misbehaving hordes of littles at events. I know it's your kink, but I don't like children generally much, and you're no different.

I literally do not know any littles in real life. None. Zero. I have a goodly number of kinked friends, but nobody will admit to ageplay. Doesn't mean they don't do it, of course, but I personally don't know about it. I'm the only one I know of who engages in it.

So all my exposure to other littles has been solely online. And, at the risk of sounding like a bitch, I haven't been terribly impressed. Many of them seem exactly like the kinds of people you describe. Obnoxious, narcissistic (yes, that's my word for the week, apparently), and manipulative. More caught up in the "show" of it all than anything.

Hell, I don't like actual children, either. I don't want to be around people who act like obnoxious children. Oddly enough, my little is almost exactly like I was at the age of 7--quiet, unobtrusive, always reading or doing some other solitary pursuit, and shyly affectionate. I seem to be in the minority, though.

I haven't had the balls to tap my own little persona much, but I don't think she's changed much at all. I pretty much managed to make my family sit through my performances at any cost. WATCH me! H would actually be a good person to go there with, I should discuss this with him. It never really occurred to me that I could *really use* a submissive Daddy, not just, oh that might be interesting once.

My little as a Top is a little bit older than 7. Maybe somewhere between 10 and 12 and maybe kind of bratty. And is too fun to tie up a man and do horrible things to him in that role.

I'm quoting BB from the 'Scat/paedo/besiality Forum' thread but it's probably more appropriate that I put my response here rather than continue to discuss consensual adult ageplay on a thread screaming 'paedophilia'.

While it's true that your size and shape are 100% womanly, mine OTOH is not. I'm 5ft tall and 110lb with B cup boobs and a baby face. If I dress like a child, I can be accepted as a child. Even if I bowl up to my local bar with my I.D. clutched in my fist, people will still do a double take as though I shouldn't be there and drinking age in the UK is 18.

If someone wanted to take the fantasy a stage further and suspend their belief to the point where I 'was' a naive, vulnerable minor to them, that would be completely unacceptable to me. Looking the way I do (and I'm not exaggerating either because I'd love to look my age and get taken seriously for 5mins) it's a real possibility. I'm 30 this month and I still look 16-18 years old. If I try to look sophisticated I look like a dolled up teen who's trying too hard.

So while I acknowledge that people who practise ageplay in a healthy way are acting out a fantasy and not seeking any involvement with minors, I think that there must be more governing the situation than the fact that BB is quite obviously an adult woman in her 20s.

I also accept that me looking like a teen is a more ambiguous concept than a 25 yr old being 7 but it falls within the same spectrum as far as I can see.

I suppose I also fail to understand how a 'little' can display childlike, innocent traits while still being considered a sexual being by the 'big' partner. How does it work to be 7 and also a sexual pyl? How do limits/tolerances/tastes/dynamics etc change when you're little? I'm curious as to how it all works.

My limits are just theirs, anyhow, so that doesn't change at all. My tolerances and tastes are similar, too. What changes is the mindset.

They are very loving toward me, even when I'm not little, but it seems to multiply when I am. Even when we're playing out some rather painful (for me) scene, they are still very gentle in their demeanors. "Don't cry, little girl, it's going to be ok," and such. And I love when they speak to me in the same voices they use to talk to the dogs or to small children.

I have a theory about my little persona. I was raised in a very stoic home, where you weren't really supposed to show emotion (unless you were my mother, in which case, you were supposed to be as dramatic and erratic and prone to histrionics as possible). I can count on one hand the number of times my parents ever told me they loved me.

To this day, I still have an incredibly hard time showing affection toward people I care about. It's not such a big deal to people like me, who aren't demonstrative. But Mistress, for example, is very demonstrative and thinks that if I'm not touching her, kissing her, whatever that it means I don't care about her.

So being little allows me to let some of those inhibitions about being affectionate drop. If I'm awkward in my moments of tenderness toward my loves, then it's ok because I'm a little girl, and I don't know how to be affectionate like a big girl. It's a good bit weirder for me to be 25 and not know how to hug and kiss like normal people. It also makes it easier for me to seek out affection. I'm a little girl; it's cool if I curl up next to them with my head in their laps. It's ok if I blush when they kiss me. They think it's cute.

Did that help any?

Also, since my little family o' perverts are all switches, I thought you might find it interesting that Master is into ageplay as a bottom, too. His little is older than mine at 12. Again, big ol' burly bear of a man does not look 12 in the least, LOL. But I love to Top him when he's little. Sometimes, I'm my normal age and pretend to be his babysitter. Sometimes, I'm my Toppy little at about the same age as him. It's soooo much fun.

As per the hordes of littles thing: I've never experienced it since I've not yet been to a large event (hopefully that will soon change), but I've heard people talking about it as a consent issue. Like, all these littles, by walking around and interacting with everyone, everything, and with you as a little, they are essentially forcing you into their scene without your consent. Thoughts?

I've never been to such an event. Like I said earlier, the only little I know in real life is ME. It doesn't sound like my cup of tea, given my own issues with what I see from a lot of other littles. But I don't think that's more forcing anyone into my scene than anything else that goes on at BDSM events.

I dunno, though. This is a really private thing to me. The only time I've ever been little in front of someone I wasn't already fucking was one night when my PYLs had a friend over. She's a switch, and Mistress wanted me to be little that night. Because I'm really shy around new people, I was actually more little than I normally am and spent most of the evening sitting in the floor on a pillow sucking on a pacifier that Mistress had bought for me (to give me something to worry with, so I wouldn't be so nervous about being around a new person) with my head resting on her knee while the grown-ups talked. So yeah. I dunno.

 

[Netzach]

As per the hordes of littles thing: I've never experienced it since I've not yet been to a large event (hopefully that will soon change), but I've heard people talking about it as a consent issue. Like, all these littles, by walking around and interacting with everyone, everything, and with you as a little, they are essentially forcing you into their scene without your consent. Thoughts?

No, I totally don't see it as non-con. Just annoying. I'm sure I annoy people too.

However, and this is something Homburg brought up, if you're a little WITH a big and you're being annoying at an event, I blame your "adult." Same with ponies - if you have one and you're not controlling it, you're the asshole.

 

[graceanne]

Yay! My thread didn't die a horrible death overnight, AND it hasn't been hijacked into "ZOMG, you're all pedos and freaks!!!!!!!!!!!!" I y'all so much..

iwillbegoodiwillbegood

 

[VelvetDarkness]

iwillbegoodiwillbegood

Well there's a first time for everything.

*puts a plate of chocolate cookies outside the thread to distract gracie*

 

[Homburg]

No, I totally don't see it as non-con. Just annoying. I'm sure I annoy people too.

However, and this is something Homburg brought up, if you're a little WITH a big and you're being annoying at an event, I blame your "adult." Same with ponies - if you have one and you're not controlling it, you're the asshole.

Very much so. Ugh, this irritates me to no end. I witnessed a little (roughly 50yr old man dressed in a blue pinafore with wig, etc) being truly obnoxious at an event, and the "big" (quotes on purpose) was being just as petulant and obnoxious. While I found the little's behaviour repulsive, the fact that the big was doing fuck-all to contain was what I found truly beyond tolerance. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on perspective) I was witnessing this from across an aisle, and was not in direct proximity with the petulant duo.

ETA: This event was swarming with similar littles. It was like a club of pinafore-wearing, be-wigged middle-aged and older men. The over-sized lollipop sales must have been phenomenal that weekend.

 

[JMohegan]

It seems to me that there's ageplay of sorts in quite a few kinky and mainstream hetero interactions, even if they aren't openly acknowledged as such.

Consider the language (good girl, little one, lil subbie) and behavior (some types of punishments, control focusing on management of the s's life & personal development, etc.) in a large subset of the kinky community. Consider the popular theories of sub frenzy, and the poor vulnerable s prone to being overwhelmed or destroyed unless the big strong D rides in to save her. Consider the whole brat thing.

Consider the schoolgirl uniform, pony tails, juvenile underwear and white socks thing. That's not teen wear, that's little girl clothing - and it's part of the fantasy world of a whole lot of adult males.

For the most part, I don't see this as guys looking for legal substitutes for actual 5 year olds. Rather, I see it as part of the fetishization of the infantilization of women that seems to have broad appeal.

I don't find any of this appealing, and therefore can't speak to the motivation directly. I have had guys tell me that the gap or contrast in levels of maturity, wisdom, responsibility, and competence (as portrayed) makes them feel more mature, wise, and so on - but I don't know how pervasive or representative that motivation is.


ETA: BiBunny, it sounds as if your partners are more into an "accepting you as you are" type of thing. Embracing the whole BiBunny, including the 7 year old little persona that comes out every now and again.

 

[BiBunny]

It seems to me that there's ageplay of sorts in quite a few kinky and mainstream hetero interactions, even if they aren't openly acknowledged as such.

Consider the language (good girl, little one, lil subbie) and behavior (some types of punishments, control focusing on management of the s's life & personal development, etc.) in a large subset of the kinky community. Consider the popular theories of sub frenzy, and the poor vulnerable s prone to being overwhelmed or destroyed unless the big strong D rides in to save her. Consider the whole brat thing.

Consider the schoolgirl uniform, pony tails, juvenile underwear and white socks thing. That's not teen wear, that's little girl clothing - and it's part of the fantasy world of a whole lot of adult males.

For the most part, I don't see this as guys looking for legal substitutes for actual 5 year olds. Rather, I see it as part of the fetishization of the infantilization of women that seems to have broad appeal.

I don't find any of this appealing, and therefore can't speak to the motivation directly. I have had guys tell me that the gap or contrast in levels of maturity, wisdom, responsibility, and competence (as portrayed) makes them feel more mature, wise, and so on - but I don't know how pervasive or representative that motivation is.

I agree. I think there are many aspects at work here that pervade "mainstream" D/s, whether said practitioners would like to admit it or not.

ETA: BiBunny, it sounds as if your partners are more into an "accepting you as you are" type of thing.

I think so, too.

 

[nh23]

This is something Master and I have are just getting involved in. In the past it was always a hard limit for me. (I have a history of sexual abuse starting when I was five until I was eight.) Now being a slave I'm not allowed to have limits. Although Master pretty much lets me have control over this part. I'm allowed to say I don't emotionally feel like doing it that day.

My little is five. Go figure. So far I've been unable to do it out of hypnosis. (Master is a trained hypnotist.) He'll just put me under enough to relax me, and then I'm usually ok. We have had a few times when I've completely freaked out and cried for hours. Mostly though after the first few times, I've pretty much done alright.

We don't do typical ageplay either. I don't call him Daddy. I still call him Master. He calls me little one, sweetheart, or Master's little girl. On occasion I'll wear pig tails or white panties. Whatever he wants that day. Although, it's more likely to trigger a bad reaction, so it's not often.

I focus more on feeling small, loved, protected. That's the plus in it for me. The sexual side of it is still iffy at times in my mind, but we have had times where I did enjoy it a lot.

 

[nh23]

I left something out by accident.

One of my biggest problems with this type of play in the beginning, and still something I have to work on at times now. It's hard for me to not see him differently. When he first talked to me about it, I had a hard time distinguishing someone who enjoys an grown woman acting like a child and someone who actually likes children.

I know it isn't rational. I know ageplayers and pedo's are not one in the same. But for my own peace of mind we had a lot of talks about how he can find me being my little hot. But not find young girls attractive. I have an 8 year old daughter that I worry about constantly. Like I posted in another thread, I don't allow her to go to sleepovers, don't allow her to sit on male's laps, etc.. So it really fucked up my mind for awhile.

I'm coming around. I understand it a lot more now than I ever have. I can now easily see the distinction.

 

[Netzach]

It seems to me that there's ageplay of sorts in quite a few kinky and mainstream hetero interactions, even if they aren't openly acknowledged as such.

Consider the language (good girl, little one, lil subbie) and behavior (some types of punishments, control focusing on management of the s's life & personal development, etc.) in a large subset of the kinky community. Consider the popular theories of sub frenzy, and the poor vulnerable s prone to being overwhelmed or destroyed unless the big strong D rides in to save her. Consider the whole brat thing.

Consider the schoolgirl uniform, pony tails, juvenile underwear and white socks thing. That's not teen wear, that's little girl clothing - and it's part of the fantasy world of a whole lot of adult males.

For the most part, I don't see this as guys looking for legal substitutes for actual 5 year olds. Rather, I see it as part of the fetishization of the infantilization of women that seems to have broad appeal.

I don't find any of this appealing, and therefore can't speak to the motivation directly. I have had guys tell me that the gap or contrast in levels of maturity, wisdom, responsibility, and competence (as portrayed) makes them feel more mature, wise, and so on - but I don't know how pervasive or representative that motivation is.


ETA: BiBunny, it sounds as if your partners are more into an "accepting you as you are" type of thing. Embracing the whole BiBunny, including the 7 year old little persona that comes out every now and again.

It's funny - from the bottom side, my interest has always been and remains nil. My enjoyment rests, currently anyway, on a very controlled and adult kind of vulnerability. If anything I feel older and more mature in my interactions with T than my interactions with H, which are more playful and feel younger.

I'm intrigued by the notion of a "Daddy" I control and manipulate to some degree, I guess. But playing out Daddy/girl closer to the bone, because I have really a vacuum in paternal roles makes being a ponygirl feel more realistic to me. I might as well be playing Cowboys and Indians for all the resonance that has.

 

[Netzach]

I left something out by accident.

One of my biggest problems with this type of play in the beginning, and still something I have to work on at times now. It's hard for me to not see him differently. When he first talked to me about it, I had a hard time distinguishing someone who enjoys an grown woman acting like a child and someone who actually likes children.

I know it isn't rational. I know ageplayers and pedo's are not one in the same. But for my own peace of mind we had a lot of talks about how he can find me being my little hot. But not find young girls attractive. I have an 8 year old daughter that I worry about constantly. Like I posted in another thread, I don't allow her to go to sleepovers, don't allow her to sit on male's laps, etc.. So it really fucked up my mind for awhile.

I'm coming around. I understand it a lot more now than I ever have. I can now easily see the distinction.

For completely trivial reasons compared to yours, I totally relate to this - the "what could anyone on the top get out of this and do I really like that idea?"

 

[BiBunny]

I left something out by accident.

One of my biggest problems with this type of play in the beginning, and still something I have to work on at times now. It's hard for me to not see him differently. When he first talked to me about it, I had a hard time distinguishing someone who enjoys an grown woman acting like a child and someone who actually likes children.

I know it isn't rational. I know ageplayers and pedo's are not one in the same. But for my own peace of mind we had a lot of talks about how he can find me being my little hot. But not find young girls attractive. I have an 8 year old daughter that I worry about constantly. Like I posted in another thread, I don't allow her to go to sleepovers, don't allow her to sit on male's laps, etc.. So it really fucked up my mind for awhile.

I'm coming around. I understand it a lot more now than I ever have. I can now easily see the distinction.

I thought of a better analogy for people who have a hard time wrapping their heads around it.

If you're truly turned on by necrophila, nothing short of fucking a dead body is really going to satisfy you and give you what you need. You can dunk your partner in ice water for long periods of time to lower her core temperature and have her lie completely still while you fuck her, but you still know she's alive.

If what you really need is to fuck a dead person, then having your partner pretend to be dead is not gonna cut it. I think it works the same way for ageplay.

 

[nh23]

I thought of a better analogy for people who have a hard time wrapping their heads around it.

If you're truly turned on by necrophila, nothing short of fucking a dead body is really going to satisfy you and give you what you need. You can dunk your partner in ice water for long periods of time to lower her core temperature and have her lie completely still while you fuck her, but you still know she's alive.

If what you really need is to fuck a dead person, then having your partner pretend to be dead is not gonna cut it. I think it works the same way for ageplay.

Master has said something very similar to this to me. It really helped.

 

[nh23]

While it's true that your size and shape are 100% womanly, mine OTOH is not. I'm 5ft tall and 110lb with B cup boobs and a baby face. If I dress like a child, I can be accepted as a child. Even if I bowl up to my local bar with my I.D. clutched in my fist, people will still do a double take as though I shouldn't be there and drinking age in the UK is 18.

<<<< How old would you guess I am? I seriously want you to take a guess..LOL. I look young. I have a little girl voice. Telemarketers still ask for my mother or father when I answer the phone. I get carded for ciggs, and have never been able to get into a bar without my ID.

This aspect of it hasn't really ever crossed my mind though. God another thing to worry about!! (Just joking)

 

[Keroin]

It seems to me that there's ageplay of sorts in quite a few kinky and mainstream hetero interactions, even if they aren't openly acknowledged as such.

Consider the language (good girl, little one, lil subbie) and behavior (some types of punishments, control focusing on management of the s's life & personal development, etc.) in a large subset of the kinky community. Consider the popular theories of sub frenzy, and the poor vulnerable s prone to being overwhelmed or destroyed unless the big strong D rides in to save her. Consider the whole brat thing.

Consider the schoolgirl uniform, pony tails, juvenile underwear and white socks thing. That's not teen wear, that's little girl clothing - and it's part of the fantasy world of a whole lot of adult males.

For the most part, I don't see this as guys looking for legal substitutes for actual 5 year olds. Rather, I see it as part of the fetishization of the infantilization of women that seems to have broad appeal.

I don't find any of this appealing, and therefore can't speak to the motivation directly. I have had guys tell me that the gap or contrast in levels of maturity, wisdom, responsibility, and competence (as portrayed) makes them feel more mature, wise, and so on - but I don't know how pervasive or representative that motivation is.


ETA: BiBunny, it sounds as if your partners are more into an "accepting you as you are" type of thing. Embracing the whole BiBunny, including the 7 year old little persona that comes out every now and again.

This interesting because some of the observable, physical changes that occur between couples who are attracted to each other - particularly in the first three months - very much mimic age regression. Women's voices become higher in tone, (more girlish), one partner will feed the other, grooming, lap sitting, all things a child and parent might do. This is noticeable in all new relationships, vanilla or otherwise.

My "little" is 30. LOL. Kidding. Honestly, age play does nothing for me and, though I'm often playful, I really don't have an inner child. I can understand the appeal, as described in this thread, but only objectively. I'd be suspicious of a man who wanted me to behave as a child, not for reasons of pedophilia - make of that what you will.

 

[Homburg]

To make it clear, I don't engage in ageplay, and do not find the flashes of innocent wonder to be sexually attractive. I find that perspective and outlook attractive in a partner's personality. Sexually, I like women, not girls.

Yes, I know. One of my partners is considerably younger than I am. And it weirded me out considerably early on. Fortunately, while there are those moments of cheerful girliness, she is literally one of the single most mature people I've ever met of her age bracket.