Age of consent

[3113]

This site has a non-consent section a great deal of which is rape and bdsm section a great deal of which is torture/ ??? I am not sure I get it.

Here's from an editor's guidelines and why your story might be rejected by Literotica:

Was there excessive violence, snuff, or abuse of characters in your story?

Your story was too extreme for our guidelines. These judgments are subjective, and thus we can't give an exact definition of what exactly is "too much". Certain "violence" in a BDSM situation between consenting adults may be allowed, while the same "violence" between strangers in a non-consentual situation will not. Tone and respect for characters, as well as the "violent" scene within the context of the story, are what we make our judgments upon. If your story is rejected for this, feel free to send the story back with a polite request for an explanation and we will tell you why it was rejected. If you disagree with our assessment, you are more than welcome to publish your story elsewhere rather than alter it to our guidelines. We respect your rights as authors to write on whatever you like, however you like."

You were asking, in general, why violence and rape are allowed in stories. My main point was that you were preaching to the choir in complaining about that. There's no one here that disagrees that teenagers have sex before 18 years of age, and that it's a fiasco that the U.S. allows graphic violence in books and in movies, almost without protest, but makes a fuss over teens who have sex.

But whether you intended it or not--and this was my secondary point--you implied that this site was maintaining that same, general hypocrisy, and that's what struck a nerve. First, because the site can't help but maintain it. It might happily be unhypocritical, allowing underage sex as well as rape and violence, but, as we pointed out, it risks being targeted (rightly or wrongly) as a magnet for pedophiles if it doesn't toe the "hypocrite" mode of thought that is currently in power in the U.S.--and has been in power for over 200 years: Violence yes, sex no.

Second, I took issue with you implying that this site presented graphic violence and torture for the sake of graphic violence and torture and so was complicit in such hypocrisy. As you can see from the advice to Literotical writers on the topic of violence, the editors on this site do not blithely approve of any and all rape/torture scenes. Such scenes must have proper context and a place in the story. And if they are too extreme, they won't be approved.

I felt that the site needed some defending on that score. That you were wrongly accusing Lit of hypocritically posting stories with violence for violence sake when, in fact, the violence it approves of is usually important and necessary to the story.

Does that clarify my point?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Those guidelines are not especially enforced, then.

There are more stories featuring kidnap and rape of unwilling women (who "deserve it" as often as not) who do not know their captors, than there are actual BDSM or non-con stories. I kinda gave up looking.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Most of my BDSM stories are about spanking or tying up, with full consent of all involved. Some of my non-con stories involve role-playing a rape. I do have one story with an innocent young woman grabbed off the steet, whipped and generally mistreated. It might have been rejected, but the bad guys got their comeuppance in the end.

I have others where young women are abducted and mistreated, and it is plain that thei future will involve more of the same, while the perpetrators prospered. These were probably bordeline, since there was no graphic violence, although there was clearly the possibility.

 

[sr71plt]

My first posting was progressing quite enjoyably with friendly, helpful responses but it looks like I somehow hit a nerve on my last post.

I think that's because you, like quite a few posting to this issue before, can't seem to accept that this Web site is trying to do what it can to stay out of firing sights of those looking for porn sites that go beyond the limits of the laws in the jurisdiction in which they originate.

This is their Web site and thus their decision, and a good many of the writers here would be more than uncomfortable contributing stories to a site that goes beyond the limits of scrutiny and possible prosecution.

The answer is not to just keep saying how you want it to be otherwise--and to point to places where it is otherwise. The answer is either to follow their rules, without nattering about it or getting cute and trying to circumvent their guidelins or to start up your own Web site for you stories and shoulder whatever risks you want to yourself.

It's no different than if the Web site owners decided they wouldn't accept any stories with the word "hogswallow" in it. They own the site; it's purely their right to enforce such a decision here. And if you dearly wanted to write a story about hogswallow and post it here, that would be just your tough.

After a couple of rounds of your "just not getting it," you can count on folks getting a little testy. Not least because this happens on a regular basis here.