age issue

[wolf2002]

Dear fellow writers,

I think I posted this question at the wrong board... please take a look

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=199681

Wolf

 

[Jenny _S]

Dear fellow writers,

I think I posted this question at the wrong board... please take a look

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=199681

Wolf

The age limit is 18. If you have characters in your story under that age, fine as long as they are not invoved directly or indirectly with any of the sex scenes.

There have been a number of discussions on this issue. Try a search on this forum. I recall Dr. M. making a rather interesting comment on getting around the age barrier a couple months ago.

 

[MathGirl]

The Answer

Usually three to five days. Sometimes up to a week if there are many submissions.
MG

 

[oggbashan]

Publication?

I think in the current climate of "morality" trying to get a story published which describes sex before age 18, even between two people of opposite sex who are both under 18, would be difficult.
That is despite the fact that in the UK 16 year olds can marry legally (with parental consent).

Nabokov's Lolita would probably be banned today if it wasn't already published.

Referring back to childhood sexual abuse as a motivator for adult behaviour is probably OK. Describing the abuse in detail would not be allowed in Literotica and could cause a publisher legal difficulties and more importantly would generate bad publicity.

The widespead paranoia about paedophiles is currently over the top in the UK. If you visit a paysite that has sexual images of children (under 18) even if you leave immediately you could be investigated and possibly prosecuted. The damage to your reputation would be difficult to repair even if you were acquitted. If downloaded images are found in your possession you are likely to be convicted.

I do not like paedophilia, nor the people who produce images to gratify paedophiles, whether the images are "real" or not. However at the moment it is very difficult for anyone who looks at sex-related sites on the internet to be absolutely sure that the sites they visit are paedophilia-free.

Producing a story that could be interpreted as written for an audience of paedophiles would be very dangerous for the author and the publisher. Please, don't do it.

Og

 

[gauchecritic]

Originally posted by Wolf2002

The scene would be about a female character who, when she was 13, let the boys kiss her vagina after school. It won;t be an explicit pornographic description, just a childhood memory...

If this is as far as the sexual element of the scene goes, without getting vivid or any more detailed, that is to say the quoted paragraph with story-line attached then I could see it being passed by Lauren assuming it has relevance.

After-all, Chandler in "Friends" when referring to his op. to remove a third nipple says something along the lines of "Two nipples... No waiting. Kinda like Racheal in Junior high."

Maybe not those words exactly but definitely implying under 18 sexual acts and that's prime time TV.

If you post the story I would definitely follow Rainbow's advice from the other thread. Flag the passage for Lauren to see.

Gauche

 

[Couture]

It is not against the law to write such a story in the US at present time. Your mileage may vary.

 

[Icingsugar]

Guess what, peeps?

Kids play doctor.
Teens have sex.

Granted, not all of them do, but many. Dare I say most?

To describe young people having sex and doing sexual things in a work of fiction in general should be ok. It is after all just a slice of reality. It has been done many times, often by redeemed and respectable authors, filmmakers, playwriters etc. Sometimes the moral squad have gathered the mobs, other times not. That I think is of lesser importance. To acknowledge that pepole do illegal and 'immoral' things and to describe those things in stories when needed can't be wrong. In fact one of the best movies I have seen have dealt with young pepole discovering love and sexuality. They even had on-screen sex. In Technicolor. And in stereo.

But the point is, the intent was not to give the audience a boner, and it was all portrayed in a way that it really didn't.

So to portray minors (at this site ppl under 18 years, since that is a limit that very few would think is too low) in an erotic form, with the sole purpose to excite the viewer or reader is to step over a line that is better left uncrossed.

This is a site dedicated to the arousing, so if you want to write a story with too detailed reference to to younger years, I think you should rethink your strategy.

 

[Seattle Zack]

I've wondered that myself -- if a charcater recalling losing her virginity at 16, for instance, automatically makes the story "child porn" and therefore unfit for publication. Regardless of the fact that the Age of Consent for much of the US is sixteen years old .....

I do have some sympathy for Lauren, however. Aschroft and his minions would like nothing better than to shut down sites like Lit, so perhaps it's better to err on the side of caution.

--Zack

 

[oggbashan]

It is not against the law to write such a story in the US at present time.

It may not be against the law but it gives ammunition to those who want to ban ALL sex on the Internet even for people over 21.

To some, just by participating in this site, we are agents of evil and dangerous. Their beliefs are strongly held and any excuse would do to attack Literotica.

There are people who hate Literotica and all it stands for - including Free Speech.

I do not want to lose all that is good about Literotica just because one of us wants to write about underage sex.

We know it happens. We probably did it ourselves. Kids still do it. But we pretend that nothing sexual happens before age 18.

With freedom comes responsibility. Yes. We must defend our freedoms but we must be sure that we are defending the defensible and paedophilia is not a good cause. Our opponents will not distinguish between teenage fumblings and adult abuse of children.

Please be careful and stick to the rules on this site. No sex happens before the 18th birthday.

Og

 

[Couture]

If you read wolf's original question, he/she states that the story was to be published in print form (not on Lit.)

My answer still stands.

Icing, you read the Beauty books without getting a boner? And even though they might be of age, those barebreasted runway models are definitely not women. This society has an obsession with young bodies, but doesn't want to admit it.


My point is it's fiction. Wolf can write it if he wants. He just can't post it here.

However, I do believe that under the current political climate, it might be best to wait until Ashcroft is gone before publishing a story such as this under your real name.

 

[Icingsugar]

Icing, you read the Beauty books without getting a boner? And even though they might be of age, those barebreasted runway models are definitely not women. This society has an obsession with young bodies, but doesn't want to admit it.

Don't know of no Beauty books. I'm not from da hood.
And why are we talking about barebreasted runway models here? I don't follow.

What I was talking about was not the flaunting of young bodies for the sake of flaunting, but that it in my opinion should be perfectly in order to describe young sexuality as what it is, a nervous, weird-ass search for adulthood. Portrayed with all due respect, I see no problem with that, and niether do mainstream media., or Ashcroft (well, maybe) for that matter. There are popular, respected books, and award-winning motion pictures on the subject. They show movies like that in school, y'know.

 

[snooper]

Re: The Answer

Usually three to five days. Sometimes up to a week if there are many submissions.
MG

Is that the earliest age at which sex is permitted, or the length of a mean, median or mode session?

 

[wolf2002]

People, thanks all so much for your reactions... my general impression is that's it is probably safe to write the scene I described and let the editor (if it ever comes so far) decide...

I still have some hesitations though. Maybe the scene in itself won't have much explicit sex in it, the story as a whole will be very pornographic and provoking to the narrow-minded... the mere fact that minors are involved would give them an argument to execrate it...

For the same reason publishing on Lit would be difficult, because of the problems Laurel may face. I can understand her policy, although I don;t agree with the standard...

Thanks again you all, you have been of great help.
Wolf