Advice appreciated on how to deal with editor's allegation of AI use

[StillStunned]

Again I'm probably missing some obvious point but what would a 'bot farm' gain from submitting multiple stories to Literotica? There seems to be no financial benefit, which I thought was the point of such undertakings.

I'm not sure about bot farms, but people have always looked for ways to get credit without doing any work, even without monetary incentive.

I've mentioned before how there was a time that people would post Far Side cartoons and claim them as their own - sometimes without even bothering to cut out Gary Larson's signature. They always got found out immediately, but that rarely stopped them from doing the same thing a few days later.

In my professional work, I was once editing a Liber Amicorum, and came across a chunk of text in one writer's contribution that looked wrong: the quality of the English was much better than the opening lines, for a start, and the formatting was different. A quick Google led me to the online article that the "writer" had copied and pasted almost their contribution from verbatim. Without even bothering to change the formatting.

Some people have no scruples about cheating for some form of appreciation, however fleeting it is.

 

[EmilyMiller]

@EmilyMiller

Can you resubmit this as its own thread and perhaps we can get it pinned just as @oggbashan's comment about under 18

This comes up too frequently to not have a pi8nned response and this one is the most comprehensive I've seen.

It’s not an official Literotica statement. Just what I have pieced together.

Emily

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

It’s not an official Literotica statement. Just what I have pieced together.

Emily

Same with the under 18 one I referenced. I just think you covered the issue very succinctly, without judgement. Very Dragnet-ish...

 

[StillStunned]

I am absolutely not an official Literotica spokesperson,

Hang on, I thought you were generated by Literotica, like Neo in The Matrix?

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Hang on, I thought you were generated by Literotica, like Neo in The Matrix?

her other Alt is Skynet, so be careful.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Hang on, I thought you were generated by Literotica, like Neo in The Matrix?

Bullet Vibrator Time…

 

[EmilyMiller]

her other Alt is Skynet, so be careful.

Me and Cameron are BFFs

Emily

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Me and Cameron are BFFs

Emily

Tell Jimmy I'm still waiting for that callback the next time you see him.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Tell Jimmy I'm still waiting for that callback the next time you see him.

I meant the Terminator, not the director she is named after…

 

[NuclearGorilla]

Just another two cents, but working in products/testing/management, negative feedback is one of the most valuable policy and product revision tools available on the development side. Authors are so upset because they really love their work and this site, and the murky deluge of AI threads will be useful to Laurel and Manu in developing and prioritizing policy and process revisions.

I 100% agree with Emily that this should be approached with patience and grace. I am rather stubborn, but my tune changed when I realized that I was complaining to two devs, not an internet megaconglomerate. I assumed that with millions of readers, it was an endless pot of money and employee hours, thus an ass I was made.

 

[NuclearGorilla]

Can you resubmit this as its own thread and perhaps we can get it pinned just as @oggbashan's comment about under 18

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I meant the Terminator, not the director she is named after…

Ah. Had to Google that. Haven't seen the series. Will have to see if I can find it.

makes sense, too. Strong women seem to gather in groups...

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[trevrepa]

While one of my stories was accepted yesterday and is receiving great reviews, today the other story that was pending was rejected again for AI. This is the sixth rejection for that story. I tested both stories with ten AI detectors, and the one that passed was rated as human written in 8 out of 10 detectors, while the one that didn't pass was rated as human written in 9 out of 10. Interestingly, the latter scored about 21% on Quillbot, compared to 2% for the one that passed, so I might look into that. ZeroGPT and ContentDetector also gave slightly higher scores for the rejected story, but still within the human range. I'm struggling with this Part 1. I already have 4 parts written but can't seem to get the first part to pass.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Ah. Had to Google that. Haven't seen the series. Will have to see if I can find it.

makes sense, too. Strong women seem to gather in groups...

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Love Summer. Watched the series because of her. Lena Headey was great as well, but Summer was so uncanny valley and funny at the same time that it was perfect.

Maybe something about a waif throwing big guys around appealed as well

Emily

 

[EmilyMiller]

https://xkcd.com/579/#:~:text=Male (riding around on haywire,else was pretty secondary.}}

You need to read the alt / title text (as with most of xkcd).

Emily

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

Love Summer. Watched the series because of her. Lena Headey was great as well, but Summer was so uncanny valley and funny at the same time that it was perfect.

Maybe something about a waif throwing big guys around appealed as well

Emily

Just found it on HULU. Will start watching tonight...
Thanks for the referral.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Just found it on HULU. Will start watching tonight...
Thanks for the referral.

There are many flaws to it. But it’s worth it just for Summer’s performance.

Emily

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

There are many flaws to it. But it’s worth it just for Summer’s performance.

Emily

"Performance". OK, if you say so.

 

[EmilyMiller]

"Performance". OK, if you say so.

She’s very convincing. And super cute.

 

[EmilyMiller]

"Performance". OK, if you say so.

And - I suppose another plus - is she is much closer to an actual ND experience than Jim Parsons.

Emily

 

[DrPope]

There is a lot of supposition and statements that things are true without any supporting evidence on this thread. There is also a lot of emotion. That’s all understandable as I get how much it must hurt to be caught up in this loop.

Having spoken to Laurel (@Portly_Penguin can attest to this) there is absolutely no intent to upset authors. I am absolutely not an official Literotica spokesperson, but I can state the following:

1. AI submissions are a big problem for the site. There are a lot of them.
2. The only person who reviews submissions is Laurel - there is not a team of people doing this, just one overworked woman
3. The AI detection tools are far from perfect, but the site has embraced the principle of zero tolerance for AI. This is to protect authors as much as anything
4. This will inevitably lead to false positives - and the sheer volume of AI submissions has slowed the process
5. Literotica wants to publish your stories, but wants to ensure that they are free of AI. This is for the good of the whole community
6. There has sometimes (and I’m not suggesting anyone on this thread is guilty of this) been a disconnect between what authors have initially claimed and then later admitted. This has understandably reduced the site’s faith in authors simply stating “I didn’t use AI”
7. This is a very fluid situation and - to employ an over used phrase - an unprecedented one
8. My personal view is that some calm and understanding would go a long way to improving things

Emily

AI is too good these days and AI detection frankly is not good enough so ....

#3, #4 and #5 are frankly untenable

And calm and understanding are helping the victims like our Gorillas and Penguins

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

She’s very convincing. And super cute.

My quotes were meant to indicate you might be just a touch more into the fact she's a smoke show(sexy hot) than a good actress. Just a thought.

 

[MillieDynamite]

I have no words!

I'm not going to repost the message completely, but I said my peace about everything here. So yeah.

 

[EmilyMiller]

My quotes were meant to indicate you might be just a touch more into the fact she's a smoke show(sexy hot) than a good actress. Just a thought.

I don’t know about her range, but both River and Cameron fit her perfectly.

Emily

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I don’t know about her range, but both River and Cameron fit her perfectly.

Emily

OMG!!! River. It just clicked. You're right. She was in Firefly and Serendipity...