adrina is a communist

[KimGordon67]

Repeated post - see below. (I don't even know what I did there?)

 

[KimGordon67]

When one is willfully blind to the substance of the debate, there is no debate.

I can call the sky blue. But if you insist that it isn't because I offer no proof, then the fault in civilized debate doesn't lie in my words. The fault lies in the one who will not see with their own eyes that which is right before them.

You can disagree with the premise that it is blue and offer alternative choices such as azure or aqua but the underlying premise is still sound - it is blue however you choose to redefine it and you can see that for yourself.

Thus, there lies only one final dispute resolution over the color. And that is to attack and degrade and vilify the one who so hatefully and spitefully decried the color out of ignorance and intolerance for those who enjoy the sky.


BTW, it took less than 10 seconds to search and find 200 separate uses by Adrina of the word Misogynist. I have no idea how she could call the many someones she doesn't know misogynists yet at that same time claim she's not intolerant of "conservative men" and doesn't have a reputation for being a "man hater".

The sky is blue.

It's pretty difficult to be willfully blind to anything that you're not actually showing.

Calling someone a misogynist doesn't mean you hate men. You possibly need to look up the meaning of the word. In fact, there's no actual evidence that you've provided that she's used the word in relation to anyone in here - she could have been talking about Trump. But even if she were applying the term to someone in here, it still doesn't prove she hates men.
Having a reputation for being a 'man hater' doesn't actually mean you ARE a man hater. (Unless you live in Coach's world, of course, where the 'word on the street' is the final truth.)

Just to remind you of your original statement:
"The facts are right there for everyone to see. You intensely dislike those whom you disagree with. Those whom you disagree with are, for the most part, men. The overwhelming appearance or basis for that disagreement seems to be that it is because they are men rather than any other reason. Because, whatever the disagreement, the reason you default to is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS because they are men."
So I'm still waiting for the 'facts' that demonstrates that Adrina ALWAYS defaults to disagreeing with someone JUST because they're a man. If it's 'everywhere' (in fact, apparently there are 200+ instances), it should be difficult for you to provide.

 

[KimGordon67]

How's this for a generalization, most liberal women to be misandrists.

12 Ways to Spot a Misandrist:

http://honeybadgerbrigade.com/2015/05/14/12-ways-to-spot-a-misandrist/

The fact that most liberal women don't like you doesn't make them misandrists. You need a larger and actually random sample size to test this theory properly.

 

[HisArpy]

The burden of proof lies with the one making the statement.

One can take the suspension of belief to absurdity. For example, one can in any debate suspend the belief that the opponent is speaking until the opponent proves it by an outside reference. One can insist on proof that the opponent speaks in a specific language and deny they are doing so unless there is an outside source. Once can next avoid the debate by requiring proof that the words spoken are transmitted by sound waves and that said sound waves are in fact being transmitted unless there is outside proof of such. And then one can deflect from the issue by requiring proof that one actually received said sound waves. And so on to absurdity.

All of the above is an avoidance of what one's senses tell them in order to attempt to defeat an opponent with rules which don't exist. If one chooses to debate, then the actuality of debating must be an accepted premise. The subject of the debate must also be an accepted premise.

In this case, the question of Adrina's reputation is the subject. I offered my opinion based on some search evidence and the general consensus from personal observations and interaction. What you offer in rebuttal is a denial of the debate premise because I don't post an outside source to prove my personal opinion. That's an avoidance rather than a rebuttal. Cutesy one liners do not change that.

However, ALL of that is irrelevant. I'm not trying to prove Adrina has a bad reputation for not liking men. What I'm asking her to do is:

STOP

PROVING

IT

HERSELF!

It's easy to see that Adrina has strongly held believes and values. That's fine, so do I and many others here. I can discuss just about anything with anyone even though our beliefs differ. But, in order to do that I'd prefer to not be insulted as a lesser being than a dog just because I disagree with someone's opinion.

I live an alt lifestyle. I have both liberal and conservative values. I promote tolerance and acceptance while requiring personal responsibility and fair treatment along with speaking the truth. There's not a lot of gray in my world and I'm not shy about liking it when people screw themselves. Some of Adrina's beliefs are right up the superhighway of denial and incredibility; yet I'm branded an "angry conservative man who is a misogynist" merely because I disagree with her and you defend her for saying it. Then you demand PROOF of her bad rep while accepting her assertions even though there is much evidence to the contrary.

The sky is blue. Avoid that fact all you want, it is still blue.

 

[HisArpy]

My sky is grey. Beautifully and varyingly grey. Blue is less frequent.

It is still the sky and still beautiful.

Hi Elle. I miss talking to you.

 

[MGurkus]

How's this for a generalization, most liberal women to be misandrists.

12 Ways to Spot a Misandrist:

http://honeybadgerbrigade.com/2015/05/14/12-ways-to-spot-a-misandrist/

You circle jerkers always, I repeat, always make broad generalizations about liberals, Muslims, women.

 

[MGurkus]

My sky is grey. Beautifully and varyingly grey. Blue is less frequent.

Make him prove it.

 

[adrina]

There are those who seem to take issue with how others interelate to each other.



Adrina: membrillo


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/membrillo_quince_paste/amp/

I make 'fruit cheese' with other things too. Peach and honey suckle remains an outstanding winner. It's good with cheese or some meats, cold cuts or a spoon in some meat jus. Quince is beautiful with pork for example.

Quince is just outstanding anyway .

Yes. That's the one. I really do need to make that one of these days.

 

[KimGordon67]

One can take the suspension of belief to absurdity. For example, one can in any debate suspend the belief that the opponent is speaking until the opponent proves it by an outside reference. One can insist on proof that the opponent speaks in a specific language and deny they are doing so unless there is an outside source. Once can next avoid the debate by requiring proof that the words spoken are transmitted by sound waves and that said sound waves are in fact being transmitted unless there is outside proof of such. And then one can deflect from the issue by requiring proof that one actually received said sound waves. And so on to absurdity.

All of the above is an avoidance of what one's senses tell them in order to attempt to defeat an opponent with rules which don't exist. If one chooses to debate, then the actuality of debating must be an accepted premise. The subject of the debate must also be an accepted premise.

In this case, the question of Adrina's reputation is the subject. I offered my opinion based on some search evidence and the general consensus from personal observations and interaction. What you offer in rebuttal is a denial of the debate premise because I don't post an outside source to prove my personal opinion. That's an avoidance rather than a rebuttal. Cutesy one liners do not change that.

However, ALL of that is irrelevant. I'm not trying to prove Adrina has a bad reputation for not liking men. What I'm asking her to do is:

STOP

PROVING

IT

HERSELF!

It's easy to see that Adrina has strongly held believes and values. That's fine, so do I and many others here. I can discuss just about anything with anyone even though our beliefs differ. But, in order to do that I'd prefer to not be insulted as a lesser being than a dog just because I disagree with someone's opinion.

I live an alt lifestyle. I have both liberal and conservative values. I promote tolerance and acceptance while requiring personal responsibility and fair treatment along with speaking the truth. There's not a lot of gray in my world and I'm not shy about liking it when people screw themselves. Some of Adrina's beliefs are right up the superhighway of denial and incredibility; yet I'm branded an "angry conservative man who is a misogynist" merely because I disagree with her and you defend her for saying it. Then you demand PROOF of her bad rep while accepting her assertions even though there is much evidence to the contrary.

The sky is blue. Avoid that fact all you want, it is still blue.

This is a tendency I note on the GB among ... well, to be honest, conservative men, although possibly it's because they're the people I butt heads with the most. But it's this: when asked about something, they move to the most extreme example and say 'there - that's why'. 4est did it yesterday when he suggested a polyglot society was bad because he'd be forced to adopt the values of the North Korean Juch. Here you're saying there's no point in providing evidence because "Once can next avoid the debate by requiring proof that the words spoken are transmitted by sound waves and that said sound waves are in fact being transmitted unless there is outside proof of such". But no one here is doing that - I'm personally just asking for some actual evidence of the fact that you keep stating, that should be pretty provable. You've said "I offered my opinion based on some search evidence and the general consensus from personal observations and interaction." I explained above why Adrina using the term 'misogynist' doesn't make her a man-hater. 'The general consensus' ... well, again, where's the evidence for this. If we want to push arguments to the absurd, which seems to be your approach, there was once a 'general consensus' that the earth is flat.

So, still waiting ...

 

[richard_daily]

The fact that most liberal women don't like you doesn't make them misandrists. You need a larger and actually random sample size to test this theory properly.

Conservative women don't like him, religious women don't like him, men don't like him. Its pretty consistent.

 

[richard_daily]

Occasionally, I miss a hilarious thread because of someone I have on ignore. This is one of those times.

 

[MelissaBaby]

One can take the suspension of belief to absurdity. For example, one can in any debate suspend the belief that the opponent is speaking until the opponent proves it by an outside reference. One can insist on proof that the opponent speaks in a specific language and deny they are doing so unless there is an outside source. Once can next avoid the debate by requiring proof that the words spoken are transmitted by sound waves and that said sound waves are in fact being transmitted unless there is outside proof of such. And then one can deflect from the issue by requiring proof that one actually received said sound waves. And so on to absurdity.

All of the above is an avoidance of what one's senses tell them in order to attempt to defeat an opponent with rules which don't exist. If one chooses to debate, then the actuality of debating must be an accepted premise. The subject of the debate must also be an accepted premise.

In this case, the question of Adrina's reputation is the subject. I offered my opinion based on some search evidence and the general consensus from personal observations and interaction. What you offer in rebuttal is a denial of the debate premise because I don't post an outside source to prove my personal opinion. That's an avoidance rather than a rebuttal. Cutesy one liners do not change that.

However, ALL of that is irrelevant. I'm not trying to prove Adrina has a bad reputation for not liking men. What I'm asking her to do is:

STOP

PROVING

IT

HERSELF!

It's easy to see that Adrina has strongly held believes and values. That's fine, so do I and many others here. I can discuss just about anything with anyone even though our beliefs differ. But, in order to do that I'd prefer to not be insulted as a lesser being than a dog just because I disagree with someone's opinion.

I live an alt lifestyle. I have both liberal and conservative values. I promote tolerance and acceptance while requiring personal responsibility and fair treatment along with speaking the truth. There's not a lot of gray in my world and I'm not shy about liking it when people screw themselves. Some of Adrina's beliefs are right up the superhighway of denial and incredibility; yet I'm branded an "angry conservative man who is a misogynist" merely because I disagree with her and you defend her for saying it. Then you demand PROOF of her bad rep while accepting her assertions even though there is much evidence to the contrary.

The sky is blue. Avoid that fact all you want, it is still blue.

What you are trying to "prove" is the superiority of your subjective opinion. Finding how many times Adrina used the word "misogynist" in posts proves nothing. Did you also search for counterexamples , where she complimented or praised men? If you did not, you no more proved that she hates men than I could prove the sky is not blue by conducting my research on a rainy day.

And where did you get the idea that you were empowered to try to control what she, or anyone else, posts? If you don't like reading her, put her on ignore. Stop pretending that you are some kindly Daddy figure, setting her straight for her own good. That's called Paternalism. Go ahead and have a hissy fit about that now.

I did not demand proof of her reputation one way or another. I pointed out that the burden of proof lies with the accuser, and it is not the responsibility of her, or anyone else, to disprove your claim.

Frankly, I don't care about her reputation. I make up own mind about people. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm off base, but the decision is mine. I have my own opinion of her, and now,I have my own about you.

 

[HisArpy]

This is a tendency I note on the GB among ... well, to be honest, conservative men, although possibly it's because they're the people I butt heads with the most. But it's this: when asked about something, they move to the most extreme example and say 'there - that's why'. 4est did it yesterday when he suggested a polyglot society was bad because he'd be forced to adopt the values of the North Korean Juch. Here you're saying there's no point in providing evidence because "Once can next avoid the debate by requiring proof that the words spoken are transmitted by sound waves and that said sound waves are in fact being transmitted unless there is outside proof of such". But no one here is doing that - I'm personally just asking for some actual evidence of the fact that you keep stating, that should be pretty provable. You've said "I offered my opinion based on some search evidence and the general consensus from personal observations and interaction." I explained above why Adrina using the term 'misogynist' doesn't make her a man-hater. 'The general consensus' ... well, again, where's the evidence for this. If we want to push arguments to the absurd, which seems to be your approach, there was once a 'general consensus' that the earth is flat.

So, still waiting ...

Thus we both speaketh the same.

You say I make statements without evidence. I say the opposite and that you don't require such a standard from those you support.

We are both correct except you continue to avoid the very thing I'm trying to get across.

Adrina's reputation isn't the problem. It's the fact that she won't ameliorate it that's the problem.

True or not, she is SEEN as has already been opined. The only one who can alter that perception is her. Not you, not me; her.

Proof be damned, if someone calls you an ass, then you either are or you aren't. If the label keeps coming your way, then there's something to support it somewhere.

I am an ass. I don't need someone to PROVE IT to me or anyone else before I figure that out for myself. My choice is to stop being an ass or accept the label.

I am an ass. I accept that. Adrina also has a choice. She can accept she is what several members here believe her to be or change.

Please change.

 

[Freudian_Slit]

I see no reason for Adrina to change, even if I believed I had a voice in telling her so. What I see are certain men criticizing her for her refusal to accept worse. It's only among that contingent that she has an alleged reputation problem. And to that, I say, fuck 'em.

 

[thehaircutgirl]

can we at least be mrsandrists?

 

[MGurkus]

Right wingers attacking and running a smear campaign against a woman? Say it isn't So!

 

[Freudian_Slit]

The haters here all seem to want to contest the fact that Adrina is a man-hater, and say that there are no facts to support it. But it's a fact, much like a girl having a reputation for being 'easy', so she gets all excited that the guys can't prove it, but they all know where to get laid. Word on the street often has more truth than fiction.

Get over it, fuckface.

 

[Aglaopheme]

I'm not saying you can't have your opinions. What I'm saying is that your opinions BEGIN WITH degrading many very good men here. And then the dogpile starts where you and your "friends" start berating anyone who objects to being callously mistreated and abused while you stand on the sidelines and egg them on. This shows who you are more than anything you say otherwise.

Thus we both speaketh the same.

You say I make statements without evidence. I say the opposite and that you don't require such a standard from those you support.

We are both correct except you continue to avoid the very thing I'm trying to get across.

Adrina's reputation isn't the problem. It's the fact that she won't ameliorate it that's the problem.

True or not, she is SEEN as has already been opined. The only one who can alter that perception is her. Not you, not me; her.

Proof be damned, if someone calls you an ass, then you either are or you aren't. If the label keeps coming your way, then there's something to support it somewhere.

I am an ass. I don't need someone to PROVE IT to me or anyone else before I figure that out for myself. My choice is to stop being an ass or accept the label.

I am an ass. I accept that. Adrina also has a choice. She can accept she is what several members here believe her to be or change.

Please change.

Why should she change to suit a pile of dogs?

Have you spoken out about coach binky threatening Kim, or his multiple reading comprehension problems that caused him to lash out at everyone, or did you just sit by on the sidelines egging him on? Did you sit by when he made broad and sweeping generalizations about women? When he blamed his politicals and penis for the treatment he was receiving? Perhaps you told him he should change?

 

[Freudian_Slit]

Conservative men are being hypocrites?!?

 

[Aglaopheme]

Hello!

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I just love that Adrina got all the basic bitches up in here

https://media.giphy.com/media/qpitPlijxVX8Y/giphy.gif

and she's still keeping it one hundred while merely walking down the street.

 

[lickitandstickit]

I had to google PolyGlot

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Suppose adrina IS everything people are saying?

Who is it hurting exactly?

I Mean; she is a great bKer I think, but it cannot impact MY waistline. I am too far away.

The basic riff is this:

The boys wanna bang Adrina, but she won't let 'em smash. Because she's quality that can do better. And she lets 'em know that.

This is them yowling after the fact. Meanwhile, she just keeps on with the bitch slaps.

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/87b82bdcd4/dU5uwWV3RqucQ7InODGZ_Third%20Hand%20Slap.gif

Tale as old as time!

 

[MelissaBaby]

I just love that Adrina got all the basic bitches up in here

https://media.giphy.com/media/qpitPlijxVX8Y/giphy.gif

and she's still keeping it one hundred while merely walking down the street.

Aren't we supposed to hate you because you have a penis? You'd better show it to us so we can know for sure.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Aren't we supposed to hate you because you have a penis? You'd better show it to us so we can know for sure.

Okay...but...

http://www.alien-covenant.com/aliencovenant_uploads/prosnake1.gif.pagespeed.ce.8oVDQLyNGe.gif

...don't say I didn't warn ya!