Admiral Thrown Under the Bus

[eric_erosfan]

Just to protect Kegsbreath.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/01/us/hegseth-drug-boat-strike-order-venezuela.html

 

[MajorRewrite]

I think “keelhauled” is the appropriate naval term.

 

[Lazaran]

Just to protect Kegsbreath.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/01/us/hegseth-drug-boat-strike-order-venezuela.html

So this is why the Democratic congress members posted that video about refusing to follow unlawful orders???



WE. TOLD. THEM. SO.

 

[RobDownSouth]

So this is why the Democratic congress members posted that video about refusing to follow unlawful orders???



WE. TOLD. THEM. SO.

In a word, yes.

It's been a fascinating past week, showing how quickly the narrative can change in the Trump administration.

• Last week, several members of Congress shot a video reminding soldiers and sailors they had an obligation to NOT follow "unlawful orders".
• Predictably, pearl-clutching ensued from Trump supporters.
• The Trump administration was not amused, to the extent that Trump's press secretary declared that anything the President said was ipso facto a "lawful order". Full stop.
• A plethora of stories about "shoot the survivors" in a September raid popped up on Social Media on Friday, as a cut-and-dried instance of "unlawful orders".
• Predictably, MAGA numbnuts cheered the murder of foreign nationals, and the Democrats (REAL Americans) were aghast at this egregious war crime.
• Hegseth took a victory lap on social media, crowing how he'd watched it in real time and had issued the "no survivors!" order like a 12 year old cosplay warlord.
• Then things got really interesting: Hegseth's oily press secretary Sean Parnell selectively leaked info favorable to Hegseth to both Jeff Bezos' new conservative hires at the Washington Post and also to Trump-friendly contacts at CNN. The New York Times got nothing.
• The WaPo and CNN ran with the story, basically about Hegseth running his mouth about what a successful War Secretary he was.
• Serious backlash ensued as a result, rousing a slumbering demented Donald Stroke to say that he (Trump) had authorized the first strike but he thought the second strike was not called for and in any event he didn't authorized it.
• Trump loyalists began giving all sorts of "off the record" info exclusively to the New York Times, which was still bitter about being scooped by WaPo and CNN. The NYT basically exonerated Trump, leaving Hegseth becoming acutely aware that uh oh he might be guilty of a war crime.
• Hegseth had Parnell immediately keelhaul this Admiral Bradley guy, making him the fall guy by "going rogue" and issuing the "no survivors" order.
• Make NO MISTAKE: Admiral Bradley IS guilty of violating his oath. If Hegseth is correct (doubtful), the Admiral violated the Geneva conventions and military doctrine by ordering the deaths of defeated "enemies". If Hegseth is not correct (i.e. Hegseth issued the "code red") then both Hegseth AND the Admiral are guilty of war crimes, Hegseth for issuing the order and Bradley for following an unlawful order.
• Oh and Hegseth now channels his inner-Sgt Schultz (from Hogan's Heroes) and now knows nuuuuthink about this second strike hoopla and he NEVAR watched it and anyone who says otherwise is a national security risk.

And speaking of the Pentagon......all those news organizations who had their press passes revoked for failing to bend the knee to Warlord Hegseth are still turning in remarkable stories about the military, while the fawning new sycophants who now have access to the War Departments press briefings seem to be content taking selfies in the Pentagon.

 

[Lazaran]

In a word, yes.

It's been a fascinating past week, showing how quickly the narrative can change in the Trump administration.

• Last week, several members of Congress shot a video reminding soldiers and sailors they had an obligation to NOT follow "unlawful orders".
• Predictably, pearl-clutching ensued from Trump supporters.
• The Trump administration was not amused, to the extent that Trump's press secretary declared that anything the President said was ipso facto a "lawful order". Full stop.
• A plethora of stories about "shoot the survivors" in a September raid popped up on Social Media on Friday, as a cut-and-dried instance of "unlawful orders".
• Predictably, MAGA numbnuts cheered the murder of foreign nationals, and the Democrats (REAL Americans) were aghast at this egregious war crime.
• Hegseth took a victory lap on social media, crowing how he'd watched it in real time and had issued the "no survivors!" order like a 12 year old cosplay warlord.
• Then things got really interesting: Hegseth's oily press secretary Sean Parnell selectively leaked info favorable to Hegseth to both Jeff Bezos' new conservative hires at the Washington Post and also to Trump-friendly contacts at CNN. The New York Times got nothing.
• The WaPo and CNN ran with the story, basically about Hegseth running his mouth about what a successful War Secretary he was.
• Serious backlash ensued as a result, rousing a slumbering demented Donald Stroke to say that he (Trump) had authorized the first strike but he thought the second strike was not called for and in any event he didn't authorized it.
• Trump loyalists began giving all sorts of "off the record" info exclusively to the New York Times, which was still bitter about being scooped by WaPo and CNN. The NYT basically exonerated Trump, leaving Hegseth becoming acutely aware that uh oh he might be guilty of a war crime.
• Hegseth had Parnell immediately keelhaul this Admiral Bradley guy, making him the fall guy by "going rogue" and issuing the "no survivors" order.
• Make NO MISTAKE: Admiral Bradley IS guilty of violating his oath. If Hegseth is correct (doubtful), the Admiral violated the Geneva conventions and military doctrine by ordering the deaths of defeated "enemies". If Hegseth is not correct (i.e. Hegseth issued the "code red") then both Hegseth AND the Admiral are guilty of war crimes, Hegseth for issuing the order and Bradley for following an unlawful order.
• Oh and Hegseth now channels his inner-Sgt Schultz (from Hogan's Heroes) and now knows nuuuuthink about this second strike hoopla and he NEVAR watched it and anyone who says otherwise is a national security risk.

And speaking of the Pentagon......all those news organizations who had their press passes revoked for failing to bend the knee to Warlord Hegseth are still turning in remarkable stories about the military, while the fawning new sycophants who now have access to the War Departments press briefings seem to be content taking selfies in the Pentagon.

Nice summary of events.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[RobDownSouth]

https://imgur.com/thKLhvv

Alcoholic Secretary of Defense "Pickled" Peter Kegsbreath pitched a minor hissy fit today immediately prior to the White House cabinet monthly photo op, it seems the placard in front of him labeled him the "Secretary of Defense". He sternly admonished the White House staff, spluttering that he was Secretary of War! SECRETARY OF WAR GOD DAMN IT!

The chastised staff immediately made him a replacement placard, placing it right in front of him mere moments before the cabinet meeting commenced.

Crisis Averted!

 

[Rightguide]

In a word, yes.

It's been a fascinating past week, showing how quickly the narrative can change in the Trump administration.

• Last week, several members of Congress shot a video reminding soldiers and sailors they had an obligation to NOT follow "unlawful orders".
• Predictably, pearl-clutching ensued from Trump supporters.
• The Trump administration was not amused, to the extent that Trump's press secretary declared that anything the President said was ipso facto a "lawful order". Full stop.
• A plethora of stories about "shoot the survivors" in a September raid popped up on Social Media on Friday, as a cut-and-dried instance of "unlawful orders".
• Predictably, MAGA numbnuts cheered the murder of foreign nationals, and the Democrats (REAL Americans) were aghast at this egregious war crime.
• Hegseth took a victory lap on social media, crowing how he'd watched it in real time and had issued the "no survivors!" order like a 12 year old cosplay warlord.
• Then things got really interesting: Hegseth's oily press secretary Sean Parnell selectively leaked info favorable to Hegseth to both Jeff Bezos' new conservative hires at the Washington Post and also to Trump-friendly contacts at CNN. The New York Times got nothing.
• The WaPo and CNN ran with the story, basically about Hegseth running his mouth about what a successful War Secretary he was.
• Serious backlash ensued as a result, rousing a slumbering demented Donald Stroke to say that he (Trump) had authorized the first strike but he thought the second strike was not called for and in any event he didn't authorized it.
• Trump loyalists began giving all sorts of "off the record" info exclusively to the New York Times, which was still bitter about being scooped by WaPo and CNN. The NYT basically exonerated Trump, leaving Hegseth becoming acutely aware that uh oh he might be guilty of a war crime.
• Hegseth had Parnell immediately keelhaul this Admiral Bradley guy, making him the fall guy by "going rogue" and issuing the "no survivors" order.
• Make NO MISTAKE: Admiral Bradley IS guilty of violating his oath. If Hegseth is correct (doubtful), the Admiral violated the Geneva conventions and military doctrine by ordering the deaths of defeated "enemies". If Hegseth is not correct (i.e. Hegseth issued the "code red") then both Hegseth AND the Admiral are guilty of war crimes, Hegseth for issuing the order and Bradley for following an unlawful order.
• Oh and Hegseth now channels his inner-Sgt Schultz (from Hogan's Heroes) and now knows nuuuuthink about this second strike hoopla and he NEVAR watched it and anyone who says otherwise is a national security risk.

And speaking of the Pentagon......all those news organizations who had their press passes revoked for failing to bend the knee to Warlord Hegseth are still turning in remarkable stories about the military, while the fawning new sycophants who now have access to the War Departments press briefings seem to be content taking selfies in the Pentagon.

BS Rob, The Geneva Convention or the laws of armed conflict do not protect designated terrorists, which is a presidential national security prerogative.

 

[Bray123]

Venezuelan fishermen are now 'designated terrorists'.

Be careful who you designate, or you may find yourself designated one day.

 

[Rebel5soul]

More twisted shit from the NYT. Who's surprised?

 

[Lazaran]

https://imgur.com/thKLhvv

Alcoholic Secretary of Defense "Pickled" Peter Kegsbreath pitched a minor hissy fit today immediately prior to the White House cabinet monthly photo op, it seems the placard in front of him labeled him the "Secretary of Defense". He sternly admonished the White House staff, spluttering that he was Secretary of War! SECRETARY OF WAR GOD DAMN IT!

The chastised staff immediately made him a replacement placard, placing it right in front of him mere moments before the cabinet meeting commenced.

Crisis Averted!

“SSecretary”…

The staffer might have done that intentionally…



We. Told. Them. So.