Accused Racist speaks his mind ...

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So here’s a couple comments for the second part of my “Scorned” story. Both seem very upset with the fact that I use the word “nigger” quite a bit.

Here’s links to the stories …
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=297076
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=298553


gREAT BUT....
02/22/07 By: Anonymous in Madagascar
Good Story. Great Sequel. But what's up with the nigger thing man......are you some sorta "reverse racist"? A half-way house white-supremist? That really took a lotta fun out of the story, hence the 50% rating. Hope you clean it up with your next installment. Keep going!! (but without the race-thing)


This message contains feedback for: JellytheBiggler About the submission: Scorned Pt. 02 This feedback was sent by: Anonymous Comments: It's people like you that RUIN i=this site. Why do we need the nigger word???? Saying he's black is good enough. HORRIBLE!!!!

As you can see, both comments are also cowardly shots fired safely from the cover of “anonymous” preventing me from addressing them directly, now everybody must be exposed to my ire. Apologies in advance to the innocent.

First let me address my attitude towards writing. I feel that anybody should be able to write anything they want, be it perverted, disgusting, violent, filthy, racist, or all of the above. I hate censorship and refuse to participate in it, to the extent of not even deleting negative feedback.

Now let’s address the first comment. Being white and using the word “nigger”, how does that make me a “reverse” racist. Seems that would make me a straight up racist in your narrow view.

The fact is I am neither, but the character in my story IS you half wit. The fact that my character is being gang raped by a group of what she considers the most horrible class of people she can imagine is an added element to her humiliation. It would be like me being gang raped by people who comment as “anonymous”.

Now would the character, as the racist she is, think of her tormentors as anything but “niggers”? In the mind of a racist, do you imagine they use words like “African American“, or “Black”, or even “Colored”? No! They use “nigger”! That’s what this character did anyway, and that’s how I wrote it, I give you permission to not read any more of my stories by the way, they may be a bit to real for you.

And as for “Hope you clean it up with your next installment. Keep going!! (but without the race-thing)”. Tell you what Scooter, send me money and then I write for you and you can call some of the shots. Until then if you don’t like it, don’t read it, you aren’t doing me any favors you pompous ass.


Now the second comment. She, at least I think it’s a “she” judging by the way she used the word “HORRIBLE” oh and the “!!!!” just stinks of a lady to me. She didn’t leave this as a public comment and sent it to my email.

I’ve already addressed why I think “black” was NOT good enough so I will instead address the “It's people like you that RUIN i=this site.” When I was done laughing I mulled this over quite a bit. Was I indeed ruining this site?

I have been a Literotica fan for a while. Mostly as a reader, and just recently as a writer. I get lots of enjoyment from it, I would absolutely hate to do anything to hurt it. Do I have that much power? Can I, with the use of the word “nigger”, somehow bring this fine website crumbling down? I positively throb with power at the mere thought of this.

You too are no longer required to read my stuff, but I bet you will, you just can’t help yourself can you? Just so you know, I give you permission to stop anytime.

On this site there are all kinds of stories. In this story there were several different aspects. From hot sweaty consensual sex between two good looking kids, to the gang bang by ugly black men on the pretty white racist, to forced homosexual activity on the straight white guy. In other stories I have read worse victimizations, but both my anonymous commenters chose to be “offended” by the use of the word “nigger”. Does anybody else find that funny and twisted. It’s like go ahead and stuff a big dick down my throat, brutally rape me in every hole, but don’t you dare say the “N” word! Fucking comical!

Let’s talk about the word “nigger” for a minute. It is a word with a terrible history, it is dehumanizing, it is offensive, and it is one of the most powerful words in our language. Many people debate who is and who isn’t allowed to use the word. Black people can, white people can’t, but some Mexacans can, and some Mexican’t. It’s all bullshit as far as I am concerned.

I can use any word I want any time I want in front of anybody I want! And I do, some black people I have spoken the word nigger in front of have understood, and some have become violent. Either way, I refuse to be censored. You, nor I, have the right to NOT be offended. It’s time everybody realized that. I for one will not be censored, especially not here.

So to my anonymous commenters I send out a big grinning “FUCK YOU”, and to everybody else, I hope you get an idea where I am coming from.

LOVE -- Jelly the Biggler
 
Seems like you threw the word around as much as you could. First of all, you use it in narration, outside of dialogue or obvious thoughts, so the word is yours, not your character's. Secondly, if a postman was doing the raping, you wouldn't use the word postman 10 times in 10 sentences. Writers strive to reduce repetition and your writing is too good overall for me to believe that you don't know that. So I'd guess you felt like using the word nigger a whole lot and decided to see how much you could get away with. Have fun?
 
Reply to ten times in ten sentences ...

Call this a failed experiment then. I attempted to have little or no narrative in the story at all. Every paragraph was intended to be a reflection of one of the characters thoughts. I tried to indicate this by how they referred to the others in their thoughts. For example Gayle was Gayle to only Gayle, all others thought of her as Polly or "slut". By how they referred to each other and by obvious word choices I tried to identify to the reader what perspective the story was being told from at the moment.
I was aware of using several words repeatedly, nigger, slut, tit and cock descriptions, but when I tried alternatives it seemed watered down to me and contrived.
Thanks for the observation though ... for me, saying nigger repeatedly lost its allure long ago.
 
get out your merriam-webster's

I tend to discount criticism from one who says "supremist". t'ain't no such a word.
It's "SUPREMACIST",OK? Good.
s4h
 
I have to say that many people , kneek jerk react to certain stimuli. Most of them aren't even aware of what racism is. I have see, first hand, real racism.
I saw it growing up during the fifties in Alabama....oh by the bye, I'm white...well actually ruddy sort of...If i place my arm against a sheet of white paper, then i can see that I'm not white so we will just say I' m caucasian.

The word nigger stems from the country NIGER. In early days of slavery many slaves were processed through Niger. They had been kidnapped from other places and tribes by other Afro, negroid types, and sold to the Dutch and Portugeese. The word was originaly a slur.

Today black afro Americans of negroid descent make a big thing about the word. Racism exist today and it is mostly on the part of the Black Afro American negroid type . In other worda racism exist against caucasians by afro Americans. Afro americans aren't prevented from using the word redneck or cracker. They are not in any way brought to terms by someone who uses the dreaded tern "NIGGER" Oh my...lions, tigers and bears.

Strange to note that this is the only country where "NIGGER" is a racial slur. Other countries don't have such laws.

What I am saying is that you have to get used to the fallout when you use the dreaded term"NIGGER". Honkey, whitey, redneck, cracker, gringo is still acceptable. You figure...
 
JellytheBiggler said:
So here’s a couple comments for the second part of my “Scorned” story. Both seem very upset with the fact that I use the word “nigger” quite a bit.”, , I hope you get an idea where I am coming from.

LOVE -- Jelly the Biggler

Greetings

We are all in the business where words matter.

We select words for their value, their meaning, and the effect those words have on our audience.

When we pick a word that carries its own baggage, we have to ask if it improves the narrative or does our word choice get in the way, overhadowing ALL the other words by the one shocking encounter.

Enjoy the journey

WarLord
 
There are pseudo left wing assholes who haunt Lit. I've been bashed for writing an inter-racial story (see sig line) and because one of my characters remarked, "Chop, Chop Jose or whatever your beaner name is."

You, on the other hand, used the "N" word overly much and in totally inappropriate ways. You got bashed. You should have expected it.
 
Since words are more of my interest, I will start with that. While many often erroneously believe that the word nigger comes from Niger, the country,it is actually derived from the later Latin form of ne(e)ger, which was 'niger', simply meaning black. The English version of the word comes via the French 'nègre', which by the way is a racial slur in most Francophone countries.

As for taking offense to the word, what I wrote above really doesn't matter. Regardless of what the word first meant, it has acquired a connotation different from the original denotation.

People are entitled to their opinion on it, but I find it offensive when anyone refers to me with that word, regardless of what their own ethnicity may be. Of course, all racial slurs are offensive to me, simply because the intent of a slur is to demean.

As for using such terms in a story, if it has a narrative purpose to it, I see no problem. But fulfilling that if is sine qua non.
 
CeriseNoire said:
all racial slurs are offensive to me, simply because the intent of a slur is to demean.

Amen, girl.....amen. :rose:
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
There are pseudo left wing assholes who haunt Lit. I've been bashed for writing an inter-racial story (see sig line) and because one of my characters remarked, "Chop, Chop Jose or whatever your beaner name is."

You, on the other hand, used the "N" word overly much and in totally inappropriate ways. You got bashed. You should have expected it.

I agree with Jenny, I quit reading half way through it, because of the over usage of the word "N." It showed me that you lack the intelligence and attitude to write such a story without bashing the name "N." :rolleyes:
 
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Response to last three posters ...

“I agree with Jenny, I quit reading half way through it, because of the over usage of the word "N." It showed me that you lack the intelligence and attitude to write such a story without bashing the name "N."“

Perhaps I do lack intelligence, as I have no idea what you are saying here. Is “bashing the name “N”” some writers lingo I missed? I’m not splitting hairs here, I am trying to understand.

Am I supposed to “bash”, as in denounce, the word and its use? Is that what you mean here. The story is not meant to defend or denounce any word in the English language.

Do you mean that I lack the intelligence and attitude to write a story without denouncing the name “N”? WTF are you talking about?

To reiterate ... IT IS OFFENSIVE! I am not denying that it is, it was meant to be offensive, it was meant to make the reader dislike the character.

Also to reiterate, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT BE OFFENDED. I am offended by stuff all the time, I simply choose not to surround myself with things or people who offend me. The second I am offended I stop reading, watching, listening, or participating. It’s okay, move along, all will survive. I don’t try to stamp out that which I find offensive. To each their own.

I was accused of being racist and “ruining” the site. I felt I was doing neither. I respect everybody’s opinion who chimed in, I disagree with most of them, but respect them nonetheless.

Nothing said here or anywhere else will affect the content of what I write. As I said earlier this was a failed experiment to write a story with no outside view point. Every part of the story was told from the perspective of one of the characters. I tried to identify which character by the terminology they used, accents, attitudes expressed, etc. It may take a few more attempts before I get it right.
 
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