Absolute smoking hellfire rage

SeaCat

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My wife is currently watching Enough. Yes I've seen it before. Yes I know how it ends. Even so I have had to step out and rage in the back yard. I can not deal with this movie.

I watch it, I see how they show the protagonist, I see how he is protected by our society. (Too true.) I watch and I rage.

How can anyone allow this type of thing to happen? How can anyone watch and see this happen in real life and not do anything? How can anyone who has a shred of honor, who has a shred of self respect allow anything like to continue?

People wonder at my anger, people wonder at my rage. All it takes is knowing one person who has dealt with this. All it takes is watching what they go through, all it takes is seeing and having to identify one body of a person who you called friend.

Can you undestand? Can you deal with it? Can you deal with the guilt by association?

Yes I am a man. Yes it is usually the men who do this. I deal with the guilt by association. I am accused of being abusive just because I am a man. Every now and then though, I make my voice heard. Every now and then I am allowed to make my feelings known, usually in a very physical and direct manner.

Can you deal with the rage this type of thing engenders? I can! If I had the money, if I had the resources I would start my own place. A shelter, a safe haven, a place of safety and shelter for those who are abused. Yes I would take the risks this would cause me. Yes I would take the heartache, and yes I would accept the hell I would have to see. Would you?

Why am I posting this? I am not sure. Maybe it is because I need to vent my rage, my anger, and my sadness. Maybe I need to show my weakness and tears to people who might just understand. Maybe I need to allow other people to see that while I am a cold hearted bastard to many, to some I am not. And maybe, just maybe I need to allow the people who know me and respect me, those who have received my offers of help, those who have watched me put my heart on the line here, to see just how deeply I care about this and how deeply I worry about those who have received my offers of help.

Those of you who have received my offers, may you walk clear, may your lives become fun, and may you be safe. May you never need my help, and if you do may you have the strength to accept my help.

Those of you who have decided that it is your right to beat, to degrade, to ruin the lives of those who love you. May you ever wonder if the Cat is walking behind you. Pray to your god that you don't meet me, if you do you will meet your god, in pieces!

:rose: :rose: :rose: :rose:

Cat
 
I feel the same, Cat.

I grew up being constantly bullied, and grew to loathe the people who do such things.

The weakest of the weak they are. Utterly and completely unable to restrain themselves.

Scumbags.
 
rgraham666 said:
I feel the same, Cat.

I grew up being constantly bullied, and grew to loathe the people who do such things.

The weakest of the weak they are. Utterly and completely unable to restrain themselves.

Scumbags.

No Bob,

They are not the weakest of the weak. They are not unable to restrain themselves. They are cowards, yellow bellied cowards. They show how strong they are by beating and torturing those who are weaker than themselves. They show just how tough they are by abusing and torturing and abusing those who should be under their protection.

These people are entirely and utterly without honor. They are lower than rabid animals. Regardless of what our society say they deserve one thing and one thing only. (I'm sure knowing me you can guess what that is :devil: .)

These people dont' ever want to meet me. I wish to meet them, as I have met them before. (I am currently tracking one, the ex of my best friend.) Why don't they want to meet me? Because I am willing to accept the scars, I am willing to accept the pain, I am willing to accept the burden.

Cat
The Jaded Knight
 
SeaCat said:
Are you willing to stand up for this?

Cat
You know it Cat.
Although somewhat less publically, I have made similar offers to some of the same poeple. Mostly for their annonimity rather than mine. I am unfamiliar with the movie, but was agreeing with you with not so many words. I have taken that stand for a large number of years under a variey of circumstances.
Especially the sheltering part and safe haven.
 
It's seeing posts like yours that gives us, former abused and presently abused women, hope.

Thanks :rose:
 
Things like that have taken much of a toll on my viewpoints of men as a society. I see so many men at the "one-step away" phase, so many who "only" are emotionally abusive, so many who do this shit and given a hearty handshake by the "boy's club"...

I rage too. Every damn time. It was one of the few categories of things to make my hero hate and rage. Overall, though, I can't deal with it that well. The rage over those acts consumes and it takes all the willpower I've developed over the years to keep it in check.

I know the feeling.
 
Because they don't let me kill people.

Therefore I don't pay attention... but if I'm on a jury and she can prove he was beating her.

Then you're not going to get the word guilty to come out of my mouth.

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
There are three thing that I cannot abide:

1. Someone abusing another, whether it be Man v. Woman, Woman v. Man. The abused (emotionally or physically) should always be protected in whatever way is fessible.

2. Abuse of Children. Children are to be chairished, nurtured and loved. He/She who abuses Children deserved the most painful of punishments.

3. People who sell or give drugs to children. Just take them out an shoot them.
 
There is unfortunately, not much exaggeration in the movie (except perhaps of the prowess of JLo in martial arts).

I had a friend who called the cops about a domestic assault. The cops came, and when invited in, noted the load of basketball trophies on the mantle, and got into a long chat with hubby about basketball, sized up the situation (as they saw it), then left. It's relevant to point out that domestic assaults by policemen on their spouses are not uncommon (don't know if it's higher than 'average', but suspect so).
 
Pure said:
There is unfortunately, not much exaggeration in the movie (except perhaps of the prowess of JLo in martial arts).

I had a friend who called the cops about a domestic assault. The cops came, and when invited in, noted the load of basketball trophies on the mantle, and got into a long chat with hubby about basketball, sized up the situation (as they saw it), then left. It's relevant to point out that domestic assaults by policemen on their spouses are not uncommon (don't know if it's higher than 'average', but suspect so).

I don't know if the assaults by Police upon their spouses is more common than in other fields, but I do know it is much less common to have it reported. This is true for many reasons among which are. You will be complaining to your spouses friends about what he has been doing to you. Police can't be doing this type of thing, they have to be much more controlled than others so they can't possibly be abusive at home. It does happen and when it does get reported it is often ignored. It is only when the true tragedy strikes that it comes to light, and then, unfortunately it is much too late.

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
No Bob,

They are not the weakest of the weak. They are not unable to restrain themselves. They are cowards, yellow bellied cowards. They show how strong they are by beating and torturing those who are weaker than themselves. They show just how tough they are by abusing and torturing and abusing those who should be under their protection.
Not to argue semantics, but weak is exactly what they are. Strength is not how hard you can hit, it's how well you can not.

The ones abused would most often not need those people's protection. Because if it weren't for them, there'd been nothing to protect from. The bullies find illusion of strength in numbers, and illusion of respect in fear.



To answer your question if I can deal with the guilt by association? No. I have a very hard time dealing with the assumed guilt of being born a man. Or white. Or born into a stable middle class home.

That doesn't mean however, that I don't accept the responsibility it gives me. I am less likely (not immune, but less likely) to be subject of abuse and discrimination than others around me, which gives me an advantage. I use this advantage as a lever to stop abuse and discrimination whenever I can.

I used to rage. It didn't do me any more than to make me violent. Which took me from 'guilt by association' to 'guilt by guilt'. Or at least uncomfortably close to it. I'll never go back there again.
 
Your rage balances the other kind. If only more of us were moved by that depth of feeling and were shaken from our complancy.
 
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