About that Muslim Brotherhood...

[overthebow]

If the Brotherhood comes to power, it will behave as did its proxy in Gaza: one man, one vote, one time, with the opposition shot in the legs and thrown off rooftops.

All Arabs are the same?

 

[Babalugats]

Abraham H. Miller
Pajamas Media



* Reminiscent of Napoleon's rise to power by giving the French rioters a taste o'the grape...

The only revolution that matters is the one that should take place in Iran. Look for Turkey and Iran to "get ready to rumble!"

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

All Arabs are the same?

Really man?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The only revolution that matters is the one that should take place in Iran. Look for Turkey and Iran to "get ready to rumble!"

Not a chance. With our weakness, self-debasement and internal loathing for each other we turn them into the strong shelters in the storm, as Aristotle observed, most men willingly accept slavery if it means order and certainty in their lives and right now all we symbolize is uncertainty...

They are more likely to ally in bringing down the West with China as a silent partner, for again, our weakness is their strength.

 

[rosco rathbone]

They are more likely to ally in bringing down the West with China as a silent partner, for again, our weakness is their strength.

Except the world is going to resemble, not Stalinist Russia, but Singapore.

A libertarian's nightmare.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Except the world is going to resemble, not Stalinist Russia, but Singapore.

A libertarian's nightmare.

Quaker farms...

Charlie got a head start by locking up all the best rice fields in the 'Heel.

 

[off2bed]

maybe the 3rd way is what Bush wanted, DEMOCRACY FOR ALL

...and stonings for those who disagree.

"Are all Arabs the same?" They seem to think all Westerners are the same. And we're the bigots?

 

[Babalugats]

Not a chance. With our weakness, self-debasement and internal loathing for each other we turn them into the strong shelters in the storm, as Aristotle observed, most men willingly accept slavery if it means order and certainty in their lives and right now all we symbolize is uncertainty...

They are more likely to ally in bringing down the West with China as a silent partner, for again, our weakness is their strength.

I meant, the two powers in the Middle East are Iran and Turkey. They've done battle for hundreds of years. Look for them to both push for control, meaning, more conflict.

 

[off2bed]

Turkey is the cork that keeps Islam from completely overrunning Europe. Historically, at least. I wouldn't call them a "power" though, that implies they are strong politically and militarily. They've been stable for a while, but then so has Egypt.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I meant, the two powers in the Middle East are Iran and Turkey. They've done battle for hundreds of years. Look for them to both push for control, meaning, more conflict.

Having a common enemy unites until AFTER Poland is partitioned...

 

[rosco rathbone]

Quaker farms...

Charlie got a head start by locking up all the best rice fields in the 'Heel.

Oh man, you can't make this shit up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/30/opinion/30friedman.html?ref=opinion

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I just read, Baradei, noted weapons inspector who played footsie with Saddam and Iran to form joint government with the Brothers...

Anyone know the story of Trotsky (REDRAVE's HERO)...?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

At the Daily Beast, Bruce Riedel has posted an essay called “Don’t fear Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood,” the classic, conventional-wisdom response to the crisis in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood is just fine, he’d have you believe, no need to worry. After all, the Brothers have even renounced violence!

One might wonder how an organization can be thought to have renounced violence when it has inspired more jihadists than any other, and when its Palestinian branch, the Islamic Resistance Movement, is probably more familiar to you by the name Hamas — a terrorist organization committed by charter to the violent destruction of Israel. Indeed, in recent years, the Brotherhood (a.k.a., the Ikhwan) has enthusiastically praised jihad and even applauded — albeit in more muted tones — Osama bin Laden. None of that, though, is an obstacle for Mr. Riedel, a former CIA officer who is now a Brookings scholar and Obama administration national-security adviser. Following the template the progressive (and bipartisan) foreign-policy establishment has been sculpting for years, his “no worries” conclusion is woven from a laughably incomplete history of the Ikhwan.

By his account, Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna “preached a fundamentalist Islamism and advocated the creation of an Islamic Egypt, but he was also open to importing techniques of political organization and propaganda from Europe that rapidly made the Brotherhood a fixture in Egyptian politics.” What this omits, as I recount in The Grand Jihad, is that terrorism and paramilitary training were core parts of Banna’s program. It is by leveraging the resulting atmosphere of intimidation that the Brotherhood’s “politics” have achieved success. The Ikhwan’s activist organizations follow the same program in the United States, where they enjoy outsize political influence because of the terrorist onslaught.

Banna was a practical revolutionary. On the one hand, he instructed his votaries to prepare for violence. They had to understand that, in the end — when the time was right, when the Brotherhood was finally strong enough that violent attacks would more likely achieve Ikhwan objectives than provoke crippling blowback — violence would surely be necessary to complete the revolution (meaning, to institute sharia, Islam’s legal-political framework). Meanwhile, on the other hand, he taught that the Brothers should take whatever they could get from the regime, the political system, the legal system, and the culture. He shrewdly realized that, if the Brothers did not overplay their hand, if they duped the media, the intelligentsia, and the public into seeing them as fighters for social justice, these institutions would be apt to make substantial concessions. Appeasement, he knew, is often a society’s first response to a threat it does not wish to believe is existential.

Andrew McCarthy
NRO

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Blame Sarah Palin's rhetoric:

Riedel next asserts: “Nasser and his successors, Anwar Sadat and Mubarak, have alternatively repressed and demonized the Brotherhood or tolerated it as an anti-communist and right-wing opposition.” This, too, is hopelessly wrong and incomplete. To begin with, regardless of how obdurately progressives repeat the claim, Islamism is not a right-wing movement. The Brotherhood’s is a revolutionary program, the political and economic components of which are essentially socialist. It is no accident that Islamists in America are among the staunchest supporters of Obamacare and other redistributionist elements of the Obama agenda. In his Social Justice in Islam, Qutb concludes that Marx’s system is far superior to capitalism, which Islamists deplore. Communism, he argues, faltered principally in its rigid economic determinism, thus missing the spiritual components of Allah’s totalitarian plan — though Qutb compared it favorably to Christianity, which he saw as insufficiently attentive to earthly concerns.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The Obama administration has courted Egyptian Islamists from the start. It invited the Muslim Brotherhood to the president’s 2009 Cairo speech, even though the organization is officially banned in Egypt. It has rolled out the red carpet to the Brotherhood’s Islamist infrastructure in the U.S. — CAIR, the Muslim American Society, the Islamic Society of North America, the Ground Zero mosque activists — even though many of them have a documented history of Hamas support. To be sure, the current administration has not been singular in this regard. The courting of Ikhwan-allied Islamists has been a bipartisan project since the early 1990s, and elements of the intelligence community and the State Department have long agitated for a license to cultivate the Brotherhood overtly. They think what Anwar Sadat thought: Hey, we can work with these guys.

There is a very good chance we are about to reap what they’ve sown. We ought to be very afraid.

Nothing to fear, Janet Naps is on the case, keeping a sharp eye out for Teabagger violence...

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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

He's an Iranian stooge.

The 4th stooge of the 12th Imam...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Today, the ongoing revolt in Egypt is nothing like previous struggles. Sunni angst has turned inward after six decades of terror and thrashing against Israel and real or imagined enemies in Europe and America. The apostate is slowly replacing the infidel as a primary target. In the process, radical Sunnis may have adopted the Shia mould of irredentist renewal.

Compare the many futile and impotent Arab wars of the 20th Century to the Persian revolution since 1979, a model of theocratic efficiency. Indeed, Iran is now on the cusp of first world nuclear status, defying an impotent West and positioning itself to challenge Arab/Sunni hegemony within dar al Islam. Lebanon and Iraq are poised to join the Shiite Crescent too. Persian revanchism could well be the new model for radical Sunni imperialism in the Arab world.

Al Jazeera has been covering the Tunisian and Egyptian revolts with breathless abandon; celebrating the disturbances as the legitimate and "peaceful" aspirations of an oppressed fellaheen. Somehow the looting, arson, and body bags in Cairo belie such arguments. Emirate propaganda organs like al Jazeera always speak with two voices; English language broadcasts offer dulcet tones of peace and moderation, putting the best spin on the insurrection. In contrast, Arabic language programs howl with hate and invective using expatriate Egyptian Brotherhood spokesmen.

Apologists defend the Muslim Brotherhood as a political reform movement and ignore the Qur'anic imperialism which underwrites the movement and its objectives. Indeed, the incendiary writings of Sayiid Qutb and, more recently, Yusuf al-Qaradawi (below), a Qatar based firebrand, are almost exclusively predicated on Islamic religious literature.

Al-Qaradawi is an archetypical mouthpiece for the worst Brotherhood vitriol. He is the author of numerous books and tracts, but more significantly, he hosts the most popular broadcast on the al-Jazeera network. His show, Sharia and Life, reaches over 50 million Arab speaking viewers with a message that reeks of paranoia, misogyny, homophobia, racism, violent jihad, and all manner of anti-democratic venom. Recently one of his fatwas alleged that Hitler was "Allah's" messenger punishing the Jews. In another pronouncement, al-Qaradawi justified female circumcision and wife beating. He actually claimed that some Arab women enjoyed physical abuse. Al-Qaradawi also maintains a significant online presence.

It is no coincidence that al Jazeera and al-Qaradawi find refuge and financial support in Doha. The Emirates and Saudi Arabia, to paraphrase Churchill, seek to appease the Sunni crocodile, hoping that Arab autocrats will be eaten last. The many grievances of the Arab street are real enough; but Al Jazeera, a Brotherhood flack, has been shut down in Egypt for prudent reasons.

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Al Jazerra and its American network "partners" seemed to be channeling Jimmy Carter on the Sunday morning chat shows. Christiane Amanpour on ABC spoke of a "popular uprising" and freedom. Martha Raddatz spoke of "human rights and democracy." Tom Friedman on NBC courted the "moderate Muslim center." Possibly worst of all was BBC's Katty Kay suggesting that the Muslim Brotherhood be accommodated in any post-Mubarak government.

The hagiographic network coverage of the Egyptian revolt ignores every recent political precedent in the near East; the Iran revolt gave birth to the first Shia theocracy; a recent election elevated terrorist Hezb'allah in Lebanon. The electoral victory of fundamentalism in Algeria in 1991 had to be undone by the Army. An election also brought terrorist Hamas to power in Palestine. And now Tunisia and Egypt are tottering towards the abyss. Electoral alternatives to the status quo in the Arab League are not likely to be enlightened or democratic.

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The loss of Egypt to Islamic theocrats will be more consequential than the loss of Iran. Elections are just another arrow in the fundamentalist quiver. Unfortunately, too many naïve observers in the West confuse voting with democracy.

The stakes in this most recent Arab revolt have little or nothing to do with Egyptian or any other variety of Arab nationalism. Democracy, economics, and social justice are minor players too. Another victory for Sunni radicals is the prize if the Egyptian revolt is successful. Egypt represents a tipping point -- a validation of Imperial Sunni Islam and another stimulus for religious extremism.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/the_egyptian_revolt_and_imperi.html

 

[off2bed]

I think they're just pining to have as flamboyant a leader as Iran or Venezuela. "He's a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch."

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Soon the question will be, who "liberates" Jerusalem, Shia or Sunni...?

 

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[off2bed]

Soon the question will be, who "liberates" Jerusalem, Shia or Sunni...?

I wonder if El Al's outgoing flights are all booked yet. They might have to buy some new aircraft to meet the demand.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

"Al Jazeera has been covering the Tunisian and Egyptian revolts with breathless abandon; celebrating the disturbances as the legitimate and "peaceful" aspirations of an oppressed fellaheen. Somehow the looting, arson, and body bags in Cairo belie such arguments. Emirate propaganda organs like al Jazeera always speak with two voices; English language broadcasts offer dulcet tones of peace and moderation, putting the best spin on the insurrection. In contrast, Arabic language programs howl with hate and invective using expatriate Egyptian Brotherhood spokesmen."

There's a couple of jack wagons checking in this morning who just love this shit pumped out by Al Jazeera.

I've been watching them with some amusement for the last couple of days. Hitler's boys are about to gain control of a half-capable military...

In the 1930's, the Third Reich poured men, money, weapons and propaganda training into the Moslem Brotherhood. It was the Reich that taught the fundamentalists to focus their anger on the Jews instead of women. By war's end, thanks entirely to Hitler's tutelage and direct support, the brotherhood had swelled to a million members and Jew-hatred had become central to mainstream Arab culture. Iranian Ayatollah Khomeini listened daily to the Nazi propaganda broadcast from Berlin by Moslem Brother Haj Amin al-Husseini. So did every Arab with a radio, throughout the war, as it was the most popular programming in the Middle East. Thanks to Hitler, the Moslem Brothers enshrined antisemitism as the main organizing force of Middle East politics for the next 80 years.

Egyptian society has lived in Hitler's world of hate ever since....

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/why_we_should_fear_the_moslem.html

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Yet the only NAZIs these people can ever find are in the Republican Party...




:irony:

 

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