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Entropy1001001 said:
Yeah these are really good points for people using these kinds of tools but maybe someone can start another thread for the people saying they don't use any tools. Because reading over all this stuff it seems to go like - someone submits a story that gets rejected for ai. Then they say "I didn't use ai" and it gets rejected again. Then they come here like the site guidelines tell them to and most people say "you must have used ai". I mean there are people who say, yeah I used the tools but then there are lots of others saying they never did and they can't all be lying can they?
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Did anyone start a new thread for this? Because I had a story sent back for using AI and I for sure did not. I don't use grammarly, chatgpt or whatever else there might be. I did use a thesaurus to get a few more descriptive words but I definitely wrote my story myself.
 
milawinchester said:
Did anyone start a new thread for this? Because I had a story sent back for using AI and I for sure did not. I don't use grammarly, chatgpt or whatever else there might be. I did use a thesaurus to get a few more descriptive words but I definitely wrote my story myself.
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If you haven't already found them, this is a link to the biggest one. (Reader beware - though it goes to full-blown crazy a couple of times, there are some excellent responses in there.)

AI Allegations Thread
 
There are several threads on this. They're multiplying like rabbits in the breeding season.
milawinchester said:
Did anyone start a new thread for this? Because I had a story sent back for using AI and I for sure did not. I don't use grammarly, chatgpt or whatever else there might be. I did use a thesaurus to get a few more descriptive words but I definitely wrote my story myself.
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alohadave said:
That kind of thing is in the training, but they aren't going to allow it to generate it for the random public. I'd imagine that if you had a license you could get unrestricted generation.

And it's not adding things to the model based on what you type in there. It's a computationally intensive process and they can't really add weights to it on the fly. The current ChatGPT is time limited to before 2021 IIRC.
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The level of Ai usage by private people is nothing when compared to the way companies use it and not for text generation, we either go in to butler Ian gihad now or something very bad wiil happen to us.
 
I’ve been playing around with humanizerai.com lately, and it's helped smooth out my AI-generated drafts so they don’t sound so stiff or robotic. Makes it easier to blend my own voice with what the AI gives me without doubling my writing time. Definitely handy when I'm burnt out but still want the writing to feel real.
 
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Paul_Chance said:
It's important to understand how these tools work, so you can decide whether or not you want to rely on them for assistance. For those who are unfamiliar with what they're actually doing, and why sites (like Lit) are discouraging and opposing their use.

All large language models work on the same principle.

When you write a sentence and pass it through the tool, it goes like this.

1. The tool loads your sentence into it's language model. (So, you are essentially helping train the LLM, for free.)

2. The tool analyzes your sentence and breaks it down into component parts.

3. The tool then compares your sentence with its library of similar sentences and phrases.

4. Then, it provides you with the most common expression of similar sentences as it's suggestion/recommendation.

5. So, when you select that suggestion to "clean up" your writing, you're electing to write your sentence the exact same way hundreds of thousands of other people have written it.

6. Depending on how many times you follow the suggestion of the AI tool it turns your original, creative work into a bland repetition of the same sentences and phrases. It's a ruthless run to average, unimaginative, bland writing.

7. You might have a great idea for a creative and original story. But the AI tools that are "helping you" are making sure, subtly and powerfully, that you're expressing it in the most common way. Literally by comparing it to millions of other examples and suggesting you change it to the way it's been written millions of other times.

The AI detectors are simply LLM's that are doing the same thing and simply flagging it when it's done. They take your sentence, compare it the model, return the same result (the most common way it's been expressed in the past), and simply say "Hey, this is what an AI writing tool provides."
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My dirty mind is enough to write stories here. Don't need AI for that. However, I am currently attempting to write a Sci-Fi novel. I am 4-5 chapters in, and have sketched out the ending, but lost in the weeds in the middle. I was tempted to download and use GPT-5 to help, but after the above, I don't think I will.
 
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