Abortion

[God_Above]

Actually my eternity is very secure and will be spent with God enjoying every minute of it. Do you know where you will spend eternity? It is only one of two places and you do have the choice of which it will be. Praying for you!

Blasphemer! Ye will NOT spend Eternity with Thee!!!

But you're right, your eternity is secure, just not in the way you think. Your fate is sealed.

 

[icanhelp1]

bless your heart


independent thought, posts the zealot who believes everyone should live by the words of a book, written by at least 40 people, over what - 300 years? - and relating things they say they witnessed or had told to them AND translated numerous times... puhleeze.

You're free to believe what you want to believe. I personally don't CARE!!!! I'm not a zealot, I'm just capable of seeing both sides and am more solution oriented than confrontational. I don't try to spice up a sentence to make myself look smarter. I try to construct a thought so even you can understand, but Scotty, I'm only human.

 

[julybaby04]

Blasphemer! Ye will NOT spend Eternity with Thee!!!

But you're right, your eternity is secure, just not in the way you think. Your fate is sealed.

It sure is!

 

[BotanyBoy]

A fetus not being a person isn't an opinion, its science

According to what science?

"person" is a legal term....not a biological one.

H. sapien is the proper term and a fetus is arguably a unique individual H. sapien.

You need a basic biology class BBS.

 

[God_Above]

Hope you like it hot. Very, very hot.

 

[someoneyouknow]

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[Que]

According to what science?

"person" is a legal term....not a biological one.

H. sapien is the proper term and a fetus is arguably a unique individual H. sapien.

You need a basic biology class BBS.

They think parsing words wins an argument. A toddler is the proper term for a toddler. A toddler is not a baby, nor a teenager.

 

[InsightRiot]

Taxonomy, yaay!

Who's anti-science?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Taxonomy, yaay!

Who's anti-science?

QUE ARE!

 

[KimGordon67]

This is a previous comment and my humble opinion.

If Planned Parenthood would use their resources to fund child care, prenatal care, paring want-to-be -parents with pregnant women and helping those women get back on their feet again, they would be inundated with donations and funding, maybe more than they would know what to do with. Teaching abstinence in our schools k-12 would be a good start.

Creating laws against abortion is more divisive than helpful right now. I do believe doctors should be held accountable but not nearly as severe as what's on the table right now. Let's not vilify our doctors, that's just stupid. I think tampering down wholesale abortion practices is part of the solution but not all abortions can be eliminated, that's lunacy. Having an abortion is a very personal event and a very personal choice. It's not a one fits all. To pit one side against the other does nothing more than victimize the poor soul that's dealing with the problem. PRO CHOICE, PRO LIFE are slogans, and neither solves the problem. Setting unattainable goals or setting the bar out of reach both up and down in the name of a slogan or worse, self righteous indignation with ridiculous laws doesn't solve it either. Unfortunately the pendulum has swung from extreme left to the extreme right and we know from history that doesn't work either. Appropriating funds for these future mothers, creating support programs for them to include educational programs, High school, college tuition and at home tutoring, help minimize as much as possible the major distraction in their life and make carrying full term something beneficial to the mother and potential new parents and to our country

The choice of bringing a child into the world is as complex as there are mothers. All hardships and options should be evaluated as a doctors/patient and support cell relationship. There is a lot of time to make strategic decisions that benefit the mother, fetus and possibly the new parents. The child mother is going through as trematic an experience as can be handled for a youth and should be surrounded by a highly qualified and a caring team with the health of the mother their priority.

The breakdown of family values ( father-mother-child ) is an alarming statistic. Mothers having babies out of wedlock, especially in urban areas, is slowly deteriorating our culture and is putting a strain on our communities in general. A child growing up without a father is a big deficit and I guess aborting that child is a solution but is it the best solution? When we do that are we just addressing and treating the symptom rather than the disease? Educating our children about abstinence, safe sex practice, drug and alcohol addiction, gangs and media platforms ( cell phone and tablet addiction ) and good old fashion family upbringing and discipline needs to be brought back to the forefront of our society. It's the parents responsibility to bring up their children not the school system. Please don't tell me your isolated opinion why this is all wrong, their are a million sides to the problem and we have to have the intestinal fortitude as a nation to take on this huge problem. Educating a young mother as to what abortion is could persuade some from not having one. I know some of you will think this evil, I'm not addressing you, yes that means you ROBBI and BADBABBYSITTER.

This issue could be solved with a comprehensive approach. We are at the lowest birth rate ever in this country.*** Save your open border ideas for a rainy day***. Bringing more children into this country is a good thing. It's a fundamental natural resource that is slowly dwindling. There are many reasons for this delima, too numerous to mention.

We as a society do not want to facilitate black market abortions, that would be tragic. Young girls dying due to improper medical practices brought on by the stigma of pregnancy, suicide also comes to mind. I would even venture the idea of healthcare insurances for couples who can't have children maybe get some financial assistance in adoption, care responsibility, helping with medical cost to bring the baby to full term. My humble opinion.

The Alabama law will be deemed as unconstitutional by SCOTUS.

So, basically, the solution to the 'problem' of abortion is to change the shape of society as we know it.
That seems achievable.

 

[KimGordon67]

No, corporations are created to represent an economic activity. The people that owns it and the people it pays to facilitate the economic activity are interchangeable.

Incopropration is specifically a means to separate the people from the economic activity. If you, like I do, run a self employed one man business, you are the economic activity. The cash flow is your private cash flow, the risks and responsibilities your personal.

Incorporate, and the cash flow, the risks and responsibilities becomes a thing separate from you. It becomes a legal machine that hopefully spits out money if you grind it's crank. A machine that you own. And can sell.

This is pretty weird to discuss in an abortion thread tbh.

It is ... but it's also interesting to see how far some people will go to bestow 'personhood' on things that clearly aren't actually people.

 

[badbabysitter]

They think parsing words wins an argument. A toddler is the proper term for a toddler. A toddler is not a baby, nor a teenager.

The guy that opened with a racist remark earlier has issue with my words, that's awesome


Tell DaddysBoy that he can be the word technician troll all he wants.. but a fetus is not a person and shouldn't be granted superior rights to an actual human being


Juggle your words and terminology all you want, but untill a fetus is a viable human being it is not a viable human being and should not be treated as such

 

[Liar]

...says God

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[BotanyBoy]

It is ... but it's also interesting to see how far some people will go to bestow 'personhood' on things that clearly aren't actually people.

Says the science denying social constructionist and her 10,000 genders.

 

[about_average]

I literally said that I was assuming, dumb-dumb.

Logic isn't one of strong suits.

Do you really think Mohammad is viewed as a God? Or that the God in "In God We Trust" can only reference a Christian God?

Your ignorance is astounding.

Her ignorance isn't particularly astounding, considering we live in a time when we have a president who says you need an ID to buy groceries.
Her claim that others are, considering some of the shit she says, is.

 

[KimGordon67]

Says the science denying social constructionist and her 10,000 genders.

Wow ... you're really not going to let that go, are you? I have no idea what you get out of framing me as a 'science denier', but if the intention is to somehow upset me, you're failing miserably.

 

[about_average]

Nobody on the left "celebrates" that, your inflammatory false witness notwithstanding.

ISn't bearing false witness a sin?

 

[about_average]

At least Louisiana’s approach isn’t as extreme as Alabama’s new abortion law.

At least? So it's fine for it to be murder sometimes and not other times?

Why shouldn't the woman who aborts be charged with murder or conspiracy to commit murder?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Wow ... you're really not going to let that go, are you? I have no idea what you get out of framing me as a 'science denier', but if the intention is to somehow upset me, you're failing miserably.

Not trying to upset you.

It's not framing ...you point blank rejected biology and scientific research in favor of your beliefs. Just like the pro-life folks.

At least? So it's fine for it to be murder sometimes and not other times?

Why shouldn't the woman who aborts be charged with murder or conspiracy to commit murder?

I think she was getting more at it's fine for the state to regulate....

 

[icanhelp1]

So, basically, the solution to the 'problem' of abortion is to change the shape of society as we know it.
That seems achievable.

Pretty much like technology has changed us as a society. Our society and its values are consummated with family values, we need both. The deterioration of the conventional family unit is at the heart of what ales us as a nation. The single parent families are at their highest level. Large urban areas where African american single women having children is in some places as high as 70% ( Detroit, Cleveland to name a few). You race baiters 'STFU" it's a fact. CHILDREN who exist in a single family environment are more apt to live in poverty. The problems that arises from that are enormous. Single parents basically send their children to school for an upbringing which is a disaster. I know some of you would rationalize that abortion is the answer, It's not. Returning to conventional parenting is. Moral values should be taught in the home and reinforced in our schools, education and schooling should be reinforced at the home with A MOM and DAD. The overflow of these single parent children are taxing our educational system to the max. Single parents families have a parent that doesn't have the time nor the money to provide a successful upbringing, hence gangs, drugs, alcohol and teenage pregnancies. The tenet of most religions is to support the family unit ( dad, mom, child ) but reaches out to all the less fortunate. The moral fabric of our nation is in decline. We have become an entitled society. Religions of all kinds teach sex as a function of love and marriage and procreation. In today's society, sex is a form of recreation and boff at the responsibilities that come with it. Abstinence is no longer part of today's society. It's all about entitlement and self indulgence. Our technology is our new God. Being a child of the 60s, free love was the slogan of the time and from there it's gone down hill. Abortion is not the answer for the inability to control our urges, self discipline is. Don't send me your indignant remarks or adhominems, just take a minute to really research the facts. There are two kinds of fetuses, one that becomes a being and one that doesn't, just take the time to think about what if it was you that didn't make it.

 

[about_average]

I think she was getting more at it's fine for the state to regulate....

No, she said it's good it's not as restrictive, that it allows abortion before a heartbeat is detected, sometimes before a woman or girl even knows she's pregnant.. i.e., murder is ok if a heartbeat isn't detected.

The only difference between that law and Alabama's is that in Alabama a woman or girl can only get an abortion before she knows she's pregnant.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, she said it's good it's not as restrictive, that it allows abortion before a heartbeat is detected, sometimes before a woman or girl even knows she's pregnant.. i.e., murder is ok if a heartbeat isn't detected.

The only difference between that law and Alabama's is that in Alabama a woman or girl can only get an abortion before she knows she's pregnant.

Ok

 

[RobDownSouth]

Pretty much like technology has changed us as a society. Our society and its values are consummated with family values, we need both. The deterioration of the conventional family unit is at the heart of what ales us as a nation. The single parent families are at their highest level. Large urban areas where African american single women having children is in some places as high as 70% ( Detroit, Cleveland to name a few). You race baiters 'STFU" it's a fact. CHILDREN who exist in a single family environment are more apt to live in poverty. The problems that arises from that are enormous. Single parents basically send their children to school for an upbringing which is a disaster. I know some of you would rationalize that abortion is the answer, It's not. Returning to conventional parenting is. Moral values should be taught in the home and reinforced in our schools, education and schooling should be reinforced at the home with A MOM and DAD. The overflow of these single parent children are taxing our educational system to the max. Single parents families have a parent that doesn't have the time nor the money to provide a successful upbringing, hence gangs, drugs, alcohol and teenage pregnancies. The tenet of most religions is to support the family unit ( dad, mom, child ) but reaches out to all the less fortunate. The moral fabric of our nation is in decline. We have become an entitled society. Religions of all kinds teach sex as a function of love and marriage and procreation. In today's society, sex is a form of recreation and boff at the responsibilities that come with it. Abstinence is no longer part of today's society. It's all about entitlement and self indulgence. Our technology is our new God. Being a child of the 60s, free love was the slogan of the time and from there it's gone down hill. Abortion is not the answer for the inability to control our urges, self discipline is. Don't send me your indignant remarks or adhominems, just take a minute to really research the facts. There are two kinds of fetuses, one that becomes a being and one that doesn't, just take the time to think about what if it was you that didn't make it.

Que-like word salad detected.
Chances of adderall abuse are high, I repeat, chances of adderall abuse are high.

 

[Kantarii]

Ok

That’s put it mildly.

 

[icanhelp1]

Que-like word salad detected.
Chances of adderall abuse are high, I repeat, chances of adderall abuse are high.

You know "ROBBY BOY "; if you put one foot in one state and another foot in another state then stuck your head up your ass; you would be arrested for illegal interstate transportation of STUPIDITY!!!!!!