Abortion

[IrezumiKiss]

Myopic calling someone myopic?

Nah. Nothing myopic about either Lori's or BBS' posts.

 

[KimGordon67]

There are risk for all women that get pregnant, and most older women are being coached by a medical team. Any women who chooses to get pregnant, especially older women, should, if able, consult with their physician about the risk of an older pregnancy before getting pregnant and make a decision based on that risk. The reasons women get pregnant are many. Prostitutes with a drug problem, incest, rape or young women still in school who got caught up in the moment, especially need special attention. Social networks have to have the resources to reach out to these poor souls. People who cast judgment on these women are shallow and irresponsible in their own right, "let he who has never sinned" axiom. These care teams ( my previous post ) could have a very big positive impact on these women. I don't want to oversimplify but instilling self worth and the worth of a fetus and lesson, to the degree that is possible, the stigma attached to an unwanted pregnancy, I think, could elevate a women's self worth and with proper coaching from a care team could treat the whole person, mentally, physically and spiritually and would have a positive impact . We need to make these individual women feel that bringing a baby full term is a blessing not a sin or ostracised from society. Paring a less fortunate couple with an unwanted pregnancy and developing a special bond with each other could be very uplifting for both; all centered around that fetus. I know it sound like pie in the sky but I think if we took the energy we use at bashing each other and focused it on providing and facilitating care which ever way it goes is the way forward. If after all that coaching, the women, for whatever reason, still would prefer an abortion, that choice has to be respected and performed by a qualified doctor and not castigated as a lesser person for her decision, actually done in the privacy of the woman and doctor environment. We can only try to persuade a women to carry full term by throwing all the positives at her and respect the outcome of her decision. This is a very private and personal decision and does not belong on CNN or FOX. Educating our children about abstinence, birth control, sex and how powerful and emotional a sexual relationship truly is and the consequences of having sex. As a culture we have evolved from sex only during marriage to a pretty loose attitude towards sexual relationships. Women are getting married later in life and non married couples live together rather than opting for marriage.

A lot of this is really is sounding like a version of the Handmaid's Tale that just happens to just use nicer words ... 'all those women who get pregnant for whatever reason should just carry those pregnancies to term for the benefit of the people who can't have babies' ... because, sure, that's what prostitutes, rape victims, et al are - incubators.
I don't know if you've ever been pregnant, but it's not like you got home and realised you didn't actually want that jar of peanut butter you bought, so you give it to someone who really loves peanut butter but couldn't get to the shop.

 

[butters]

how about if any sexually active woman gets a free pregnancy test kit every month - that works as it's meant to - and, should it confirm a pregnancy that isn't wanted they automatically get a pill that will make the womb divest itself of the unwanted pregnancy?

#onlypartlytongueincheek

this way, almost all pregnancies will be discovered at an early date and can be terminated with a minimum of fuss if desired BEFORE it grows into anything resembling a baby

till then, there's the morning after pill which works for those who think there's a possibility they could fall pregnant without intervention after a sexual event.

 

[icanhelp1]

A lot of this is really is sounding like a version of the Handmaid's Tale that just happens to just use nicer words ... 'all those women who get pregnant for whatever reason should just carry those pregnancies to term for the benefit of the people who can't have babies' ... because, sure, that's what prostitutes, rape victims, et al are - incubators.
I don't know if you've ever been pregnant, but it's not like you got home and realised you didn't actually want that jar of peanut butter you bought, so you give it to someone who really loves peanut butter but couldn't get to the shop.

You are just interested in an argument. Why are you twisting what I said. I said they should have an informed choice. The bottom line is there is a choice to be made, keep it or not. One way or another the problem exist. I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Apparently you didn't take the time to read what I wrote.

 

[Kantarii]

Even Trump doesn’t fully agree with Alabama’s new Abortion Law.

 

[badbabysitter]

Even Trump doesn’t fully agree with Alabama’s new Abortion Law.

Why would he, he loves his mstresses getting abortions

 

[Luk]

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I love these takedowns.

 

[Luk]

Even Trump doesn’t fully agree with Alabama’s new Abortion Law.

He and Pence enabled it, dipshit.

 

[badbabysitter]

He and Pence enabled it, dipshit.

He doesn't understand enabling, things just magically happen

 

[Kantarii]

He and Pence enabled it, dipshit.

You really can’t communicate with anyone without the name calling can you?
Bitching about it to me isn’t going to fix your problems.

 

[Kantarii]

He doesn't understand enabling, things just magically happen

Yeah, I do. When I started the thread, I enabled you to show your ass and run your mouth like Luk.

 

[badbabysitter]

Yeah, I do. Whe I started the thread, I enabled you to show your ass like Luk.

Sooooo its my fault I'm discussing a subject you started... a subject that you personally will never have to go through

Preach to me about enabling baby

 

[Kantarii]

Sooooo its my fault I'm discussing a subject you started... a subject that you personally will never have to go through

Preach to me about enabling baby

Nah. You wouldn’t get it. I just gave you one example.
You’re doing a fine job running your mouth exercising your free speech like me

 

[badbabysitter]

Nah. You wouldn’t get it. I just gave you one example.

And yet you still don't get it

Preach to me about abortion and where life begins and options for women...yet , despite your trappings, you lack a uterus

Others flock to echo those talking points

and yet you still don't get that either

I have no problem saying I enable the people that it will personally affect

You don't seem to get that you enable those it will never

 

[Kantarii]

And yet you still don't get it

Preach to me about abortion and where life begins and options for women...yet , despite your trappings, you lack a uterus

Others flock to echo those talking points

and yet you still don't get that either

I have no problem saying I enable the people that it will personally affect

You don't seem to get that you enable those it will never

For all your whining, it won’t change my views no more than I can change yours. You can’t accept that fact. That’s not my problem. It’s yours. Own it or STFU.

 

[KimGordon67]

how about if any sexually active woman gets a free pregnancy test kit every month - that works as it's meant to - and, should it confirm a pregnancy that isn't wanted they automatically get a pill that will make the womb divest itself of the unwanted pregnancy?

#onlypartlytongueincheek

this way, almost all pregnancies will be discovered at an early date and can be terminated with a minimum of fuss if desired BEFORE it grows into anything resembling a baby

till then, there's the morning after pill which works for those who think there's a possibility they could fall pregnant without intervention after a sexual event.

I think you missed the bit a few pages back where a fertilised egg is 'life' ... or baby ... or something. I've taken the morning after pill a couple of times - apparently I'm possibly a baby murderer.

 

[icanhelp1]

You really can’t communicate with anyone without the name calling can you?
Bitching about it to me isn’t going to fix your problems.

Poor Luk, he's been real mean spirited since badbabbysitter dump him.

 

[badbabysitter]

For all your whining, it won’t change my views no more than I can change yours. You can’t accept that fact. That’s not my problem. It’s yours. Own it or STFU.

I'm not going to shut up about you enabling anti-science anti-women dbags

Own it or STFU

 

[KimGordon67]

You are just interested in an argument. Why are you twisting what I said. I said they should have an informed choice. The bottom line is there is a choice to be made, keep it or not. One way or another the problem exist. I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Apparently you didn't take the time to read what I wrote.

People who are, for example, on welfare, often don't really feel like they have 'choice' about this sort of thing. You should may read some of the research on existent paid surrogacy and some of the issues surrounding that. (Not that I'm not in favour of surrogacy, nor of women getting paid for the work of being a surrogate, but it's not as black and white as you suggest.)

 

[Kantarii]

Poor Luk, he's been real mean spirited since badbabbysitter dump him.

No more than Carnal Flower putting half the GB on iggy.

 

[badbabysitter]

I think you missed the bit a few pages back where a fertilised egg is 'life' ... or baby ... or something. I've taken the morning after pill a couple of times - apparently I'm possibly a baby murderer.

Yet the sperm that fertilize the egg and add dna...are magically exempt from charges when murdered by masturbation

 

[KimGordon67]

Yet the sperm that fertilize the egg and add dna...are magically exempt from charges when murdered by masturbation

Are you trying to derail the discussion with 'logic'? Honestly, whatever next ... someone might come along with some 'facts' at some point if you keep up like that.

 

[badbabysitter]

Are you trying to derail the discussion with 'logic'? Honestly, whatever next ... someone might come along with some 'facts' at some point if you keep up like that.

Or just be told I hate men

 

[icanhelp1]

People who are, for example, on welfare, often don't really feel like they have 'choice' about this sort of thing. You should may read some of the research on existent paid surrogacy and some of the issues surrounding that. (Not that I'm not in favour of surrogacy, nor of women getting paid for the work of being a surrogate, but it's not as black and white as you suggest.)

What are you reading???

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yet the sperm that fertilize the egg and add dna...are magically exempt from charges when murdered by masturbation

That's because knuckle babies aren't people until the combine with an "egg".

Or just be told I hate men

That much is obvious, but you're in desperate need of a biology 1301 class.