A Wingnut knows no shame

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How low would a Wingnut go ? How much ridicule borne, is too much ?

Is this why Wingnuts use disgusting images and words, to attack others who do not agree with their viewpoint ?

They would bear anything, including death, to prove their loyalty to their cult ?

See- Deranged Right Wing Extremist who mistakenly murders fellow cult members, or potential allies for his cause. Because he has deluded himself, into thinking that he is defending his beliefs.


Harmless snark, or a lawyer's move in a courtroom, that will bring less safety and less options for women dealing with dangerous pregnancies?

Idaho Republican Rep. Vito Barbieri would know-because he is a long-time lawyer with savvy, and a rabid pro God/god anti-abortion, Koch Republican.

He does not really believe that a woman could swallow a camera, and that the camera would somehow leave her digestive tract, and travel to her vagina.

He was willing to make himself appear to be that ridiculously uninformed, by asking that question.

Barbieri said, “She made the point that you could swallow a camera and from thousands of miles away, you could detect the state of that colonoscopy. … My question was then, are you saying that you can swallow a camera and get the same results? Which is of course rhetorical.

People attending the three hour hearing had burst out into laughter, because the idea was so incongruous, when connected with what is commonly known, and what anyone would expect from a lawyer, and an elected official.

Republican Rep. Vito Barbieri's explanation-

"So rather than be sarcastic, I’m just leading her down to get the answer that I want, which is that they (colon surgery by remote vs gynecological medication guided by telemedicine) don’t compare."

"She was drawing a parallel between a colonoscopy and how much more dangerous it was than a chemical abortion,” Barbieri told Eye on Boise. “So, I was trying to draw out the distinctions.”

http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/boise/2015/feb/23/barbieri-it-was-rhetorical/
He is trying to convince uninformed people that the procedure is dangerous-

Telemedicine abortion has never been available in Idaho, but it was available in Iowa until the procedure was banned in 2014. In 2011, a study by Ibis Reproductive Health on the impact of the availability of telemedicine abortion in the state found that it was just as safe as abortions performed in the presence of a physician.

There is nothing to suggest that telemedicine abortion is dangerous, but that is the claim that Barbieri is making anyway.

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/24/law...ected_question_was_about_safety_of_the_woman/

Tuesday morning, the Idaho Legislature introduced its fourth bill of this legislative session that limits a woman’s right to an abortion.

This latest bill is a rewrite of a bill introduced last week that bans telemedicine, but only concerning women’s health.

According to Idaho Medical Association spokesman Ken McClure, the IMA approached the bill’s sponsor, Idaho Chooses Life Executive Director David Ripley, with the following message: “We can’t make this work in the real world.”

In an attempt to stop a train wreck, the IMA offered to help with the bill’s language to prevent it from endangering women’s healthcare more than it already did.

In other words, Idaho Chooses Life wanted to take away healthcare options for women, yet the bill was written so badly the group nearly blundered into taking away more rights from women than they intended.


(Did Republican women decide they could not support another anti-abortion bill, because Republican men did not notice how much harm they were doing Again ?

Here’s the bottom line: Idaho Chooses Life drafted a bill limiting women’s medical choices without consulting the Idaho Medical Association.

They say their bill is about women’s safety. If it was, you’d think they would have consulted with a doctor.


http://www.betteridaho.org/2015/02/idahos-war-women-update/
 
a thread he STOLE fro a COLORED PERSON, cause he believes COLOREDS cant start threads
 
How apt that fatassjerryinflorida and bizzydummy would stop by. They're the two biggest wingnuts here.. Literally and figuratively
 
not true

you aren't black, merely a NIGGER

right:D

I'm not black for one

yet you think I'm black,which is a cause for anger for you


and because of that you consider me a " nigger" which is denigration of someone based on their skin pigment
 
I'm not black for one

yet you think I'm black,which is a cause for anger for you


and because of that you consider me a " nigger" which is denigration of someone based on their skin pigment

I know you aren't black

I have no anger towards blacks, only NIGGERS
 
Im not a racist

Nor am I sure YOU know what RACISM is

Nor am I sure there is SUCH a thing as RACISM
 
Why am I obliged to fight your battles? When was the last time you came to my defense?

you're not obliged to fight any battles

this was just an example of you not ever standing up to the blatant racism from your lit buddies.. and the having the balls to call people out on racism in following posts

you


are


a


coward
 
you, NIGGER SHITTER being called a NIGGER is RACIST


ITS FACT:D
 
you're not obliged to fight any battles

this was just an example of you not ever standing up to the blatant racism from your lit buddies.. and the having the balls to call people out on racism in following posts

you


are


a


coward

His excuse is "Freedom of Speech", which only protects you from the Government. It doesn't mean that you're obliged to stay silent when someone hurls ethnic slurs. Unless, of course, you approve of such behavior.
 
The Idaho bill that would have taken away women's rights-

HB88 was so flawed, it had to be revised, and it morphed to HB 154

February 9, 2015 — An Idaho House committee on Thursday voted to introduce legislation (H 88) that would require health care providers to follow certain requirements when prescribing medication abortion, Northwest Public Radio reports.


An antiabortion-rights group Idaho Chooses Life proposed the legislation. Under the bill, providers would have to conduct a physical exam before administering medication abortion drugs, be capable of providing surgical intervention and attempt to schedule a follow-up appointment, among other requirements.

Further, the measure would allow a patient, her spouse or, if the patient is deceased, her parents to seek damages against the provider for alleged violations of the legislation. In addition, county prosecutors could call for an injunction against the provider.

Reaction

A Planned Parenthood spokesperson noted that medical malpractice laws already exist in the state, adding that the bill attempts to legislate a "one-size-fits-all" approach to care, according to NWPR (Robinson, Northwest Public Radio, 2/5).

http://www.betteridaho.org/2015/02/women-healthcare-rights/

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It was bound to happen eventually. Idaho’s anti-abortion crowd was due to reveal some type of legislation that puts government between a woman and her body.

On Thursday, in the House State Affairs Committee, it happened.

The latest salvo in the War on Women is House Bill 88 , titled, “Physician Physical Presence and Women Protection Act,” a misleading title because it doesn’t do anything to protect women.

HB 88 prohibits use of telemedicine to administer a medical abortion. In lay language, it makes it illegal for a doctor to assess and treat a patient in a remote location who is seeking an abortion using the drug RU-486.

Telemedicine explained

At Thursday’s print hearing, David Ripley of Idaho Chooses Life said the bill wasn’t about abortion; it was about women’s safety. “What (HB 88) does,” he explained, “is create some common sense protections for women and girls (who are) considering a (medical) abortion.”

He claimed that RU-486 is so dangerous, it must only be administered with a doctor present.

So what are the facts?

Medical abortions are very safe; they are much safer than childbirth
Telemedicine is widely used for childbirth, especially in rural areas
Telemedicine is used for the evaluation, diagnosis and treatment of stroke patients
Telemedicine abortions are as effective, safe and acceptable to women as in-person physician visits
Telemedicine increases access to early abortions
Medical abortions can be used in the earliest weeks of pregnancy
Telemedicine does not increase abortion rates
This is from the The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists:


"Medical abortion can be provided safely and effectively via telemedicine with a high level of patient satisfaction; moreover, the model appears to improve access to early abortion in areas that lack a physician health care provider.”


HB 88 is not based on any evidence. Instead, it’s part of a national movement to hinder women’s access to high-quality healthcare, particularity in rural areas, before the new, safe and cost-effective tool of telemedicine becomes more widely available.

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Idaho lawmakers took the advice of doctors Tuesday on changes to a bill that would regulate abortion-inducing medication.

Physicians said certain requirements in the original bill would be impossible to fulfill in some cases.

The revision loosens a proposed obligation on doctors to make sure a patient seeks emergency care or comes in for a follow-up. It also would give doctors more clinical latitude than the original bill would have.

Ken McClure, a lobbyist for the Idaho Medical Association, told lawmakers the IMA worked with anti-abortion groups to revise the proposal.

“Don’t misconstrue my testimony," McClure said. "The IMA does not stand here in support of this legislation. It does stand in support of the amendments to the legislation, which we have been graciously given the opportunity to craft with the sponsors."

McClure said the Idaho Medical Association is not taking a position on the bill.

The legislation is a concern for doctors because it would give patients, their families and county prosecutors the right to take physicians to court if they don’t follow the requirements before prescribing drugs like RU-486, which induces abortion.

Doctors say many of the requirements are similar to guidelines physicians already follow. Abortion rights advocates argue doctors should be able to adapt care to the patient and not be dictated to by the state.

http://boisestatepublicradio.org/post/doctors-request-idaho-lawmakers-revise-abortion-bill

No safe medical procedures allowed, if they include abortion-

David Ripley of Idaho Chooses Life, author of HB 154, said, “This is a mechanism for women to defend themselves and to hold people accountable for misdeeds.”


Rep. Vito Barbieri, R-Dalton Gardens-

“However, there are certain examinations and procedures which require personal hands-on exams, and I think this is one of them. I’m convinced that when a woman becomes pregnant she is no longer taking food for herself, but there is another now involved in the mother’s health, and this is a proper role of government to protect life.”

http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/bois...anel-passes-controversial-anti-abortion-bill/

Rep. Ken Andrus, R-Lava Hot Springs, said, “Other than the case of rape or incest, a person has willingly taken upon themselves the responsibility to nurture another life. And I think as legislators, then we have that responsibility to protect that life in the best way we know how.”


Rep. Linden Bateman, R-Idaho Falls, said, “In my view, HB 154 may indeed reduce the number of abortions that take place. And from the very beginning of my political career, I took the oath to protect the unborn child."
 
Looks like the "Left Chooses Death For The Innocent" wins this one.

That's funny, because according to the conservative Christians that are the main pillar of having the gov't tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body (private property), NO human is "innocent" and ALL are guilty of original sin.
 
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