A simple request of thread starters

Nicole. Wooof see why I have to go back to Australia. Love you people.
 
Nogard next time your here, let me know and I'll tell you some places to go. If you like that is.
 
New & Improved Literotica BB Rules

1. No flirting.

2. All posts must be deadly serious. No joking around allowed whatsoever, not even in thread titles.

3. No misspellings or grammatical errors. All posters must purchase the Strunk & White handbook and be tested prior to receiving BB membership.

4. All posts must be approve by committee before posting. This is to ensure that nothing on the BB will offend, irritate, or annoy anyone else. This will also prevent any potential conflicts between users.

5. No off-topic posts. Every post must be completely on topic, not just partway or on a similar tangent. No normal conversational drifts will be allowed.

6. No cussing, swearing, or off-color language.

7. No debating, arguing, or other forms of disagreement.

8. No smilies or gifs allowed. Nothing but serious posts in black text.

9. Anyone caught having any kind of fun on this BB will be reprimanded. If they're caught having fun twice, they will be banned for life.

How does that sound, everyone? ;)
 
Laurel, my sweet, there is a difference between censorship and netiquette. Just because we are not face to face conversing, or even in a chat room where the interaction is more immediate and less lasting does not mean that we can abandon all manners.

Some people have no manners. They don't care one whit about the rest of us BB'ers, particularly those of us who do like having meaningful intelligent discussions, debates, and thought provoking posts along with our silliness and party threads. Starting 20 threads in the space of 30 minutes isn't merely frustrating to those of us who grew out of knock knock jokes and the like, it's downright rude.

I have more time than most people to peruse the board at my liesure, to actually hunt down those threads I find interesting. However, I'm only conversing with myself it seems. The people who have something to add to the discussion at hand either don't have the time to hunt for it, or they get disgusted by the sheer amount of chaff on the board. The reason they have threshing machines is that separating the wheat from the chaff is a painful, frustrating, tedious job. Why would anyone want to do that in a place they are supposed to be able to come for relaxation and conversation?

There is a place for silliness and flirtiness, for threads that have no purpose but to be a joke. I enjoy those threads as much as I do the ones that make me think. However, the sheer number of the silly threads has ceased to be funny, it has ceased to be amusing, it has crossed into the realm of frustratingly disappointing. It's irritating and it's disrespectful to the rest of us. To borrow from Douglas Adams, "It's like somebody relentlessly playing a kazoo during a somber war requim."

It's not censorship, or about only posting politically correct threads. It's about consideration and moderation. With the freedom to do (including post) whatever you want comes the responsibility to police our own behavior, since no one else is going to do it for you.

[Edited by KillerMuffin on 12-18-2000 at 07:54 PM]
 
Well...

Laurel you sex goddess

I wasn't joking when I said that.

Whit moss spoiling an bid grommer

Me myself and I all sat here and discussed this before we posted.

Have you seen the state of the weather this week.

Damn, beige, sand colored, brownish-redish-yellowish.

I don't agree with what I just said in that last line.

http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/cwm2/sleep.gif

I promise I wasn't having fun when I posted this!



EZ http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/cwm2/sleep.gif
 
Oh, Laurel. I love you and I hope you were just joking around and not in a snit. (You're on your way to one of the most beautiful places in the world tomorrow. You CAN'T be in a snit!) I love your site. This has not been a criticism of your site, but of the behavior of those who frequent it.

Your rules sound bad to me. I am NOT trying to impose rules on anyone. There is no rule that says a person can't eat raw onions, belch in my face and laugh, nor should there be. But I hope people would have the consideration not to do so.

It's like you go to a baseball game and some rowdy guy is shouting, throwing things, etc. Sure, he's having fun. No problem. I can tolerate it. But if a bunch of people start following suit, it ruins the game for a lot of other fans.

And, gosh, it's really damn hard to ignore the little jibes, isn't it! I'm really itching to wield the English language and my wit like a vengeful weapon. Instead I'm going to chant to myself. COVENTRY COVENTRY COVENTRY...
 
LMAO at Ezzy!

I understand your point, KM. However, I'm not sure that singling people out in a public forum in the name of "keep the quality of the board high" is the right way to go about it.

Yes, people misspell here. Yes, people get silly here. One minute, everyone's in an uproar because the board's too hostile. The next minute, we're all up in arms because everyone's too flirty and silly. Yes, some people go overboard. When this happens, it may be a good idea to send them a polite email to the poster letting them know that you feel that they're behaving rudely. Many people don't know that an unspoken code of BB Manners exist, and aren't trying intentionally to be rude. A nice, PRIVATE nudge is often all it takes to get them back on the right track.

All too often, these threads have started, and the person who's being singled out on this very public forum writes ME a long apologetic letter asking to have their account removed because they feel, because they've been told this by 'the whole site', that they're "ruining the board". It usually takes me two, if not three emails to talk the poster out of leaving the site.

Ambro's a big boy, and he's got a thick enough skin to not get upset over something like this. However, I still don't think it's a good practice to point out "bad posters" in public and make examples of them. Thus, my rather lame attempt at humor.

Another point I was trying to make is that one person's annoyance is another's joy. If I removed every post that irritated someone, then there would be anything here to read. Some people enjoy the silly threads. I, for one, log in just to see Sparky's titles. I know he probably irritates the hell out of some people, but tough. There's plenty that would irritate me if I let it, but I don't. There are so many posts in a day that I can pick and choose what I want to read and what I don't want to read. And that's what I do. I'm sure I annoy the hell out of more than one of you people. That can't be helped - I'm me, and though I do my best not to offend, I will offend someone at some point. As will all of us who are brave enough to express ourselves in a public forum.

I definitely do not mean any offense to you, KM, or to anyone else. I simply think that there's more harm to be done by these public 'lessons' than good. That's all. </babbling> :)
 
Whispersecret said:
Oh, Laurel. I love you and I hope you were just joking around and not in a snit. (You're on your way to one of the most beautiful places in the world tomorrow. You CAN'T be in a snit!)

I love you too, WS. But don't underestimate my ability to get in a snit! I can do it anytime, anywhere, for any reason! :) But that was an attempt at humor, though perhaps a poor one. Ah, win some, lose some...guess that's why my stand-up career never took off...

Your rules sound bad to me. I am NOT trying to impose rules on anyone. There is no rule that says a person can't eat raw onions, belch in my face and laugh, nor should there be. But I hope people would have the consideration not to do so.

Damnit, I hate that! Add that one to the list...

No, I do understand what you're saying. I also understand that this BB is for everyone - including you - and that you have the right to voice your opinion. I know that you do so because you care about the site, and I respect that. However, I would be sad if people stopped posting here because they were afraid of being singled out for one reason or another. Some of the flowers are more fragile than others. :) That's my only concern. If I'm way off here, people, please let me know. :)
 
You're right, names removed. There is nothing good to come of pointing out so publicly.

Let it be known, that me, the prissy spelling witch, only bothers BT about it, because he lets me. :)
 
Laurel said:
Another point I was trying to make is that one person's annoyance is another's joy.

Thank you.

Yes, there are some threads that are nothing but utter ridiculousness. But you know something, there have been days when Cyan's silliness is the ONLY thing keeping my sanity intact. RL is one never-ending nightmare most days and here I can find an island to catch my breath.

Don't like it, don't read it. Or better yet, start your own site with your own rules. Fortunately, most of these "bad posters" have pretty thick skin.
 
I'm against rules too, but, has anyone noticed that this thread has at least got some people talking?

I haven't named names, mainly because I do know they write to Laurel and say "remove me from the list", I have never asked to be removed, but, when I blew up at some people not long ago, I did write and apologise for my behaviour, mainly because I felt bad that I had done that on Laurel's site.

Fun is good, but not everyone has time to go back three pages to get some insightful postings. I know a few members that don't even stick their heads in the doors now, that to me is sad, mainly because these people are worthy of listening too.

I have also noticed that people who used to come here and be fun, and were nice, and helpful in bad situations, now have "attitudes", that to me is also bad.

Laurel it's your site say what you will, but we also have the right to "complain" just as others have the right to post what we class as "shit".

It always comes back to the "we have the right" and no matter what we all say ... you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

I myself will now go back to ignoring these threads that I don't like. I will say one thing, since all this has happened I am catching up on Emails to people that I haven't talked to in a while.

Have fun and be happy :)
 
The post that's directly before mine on this thread makes it appear that I was singling out one specific person (that post wasn't there when started my response).

I wasn't, and I want this known because I've been misunderstood before, and I am not looking to ruin anybody's fun, let alone point fingers at one person.

As far as silly shit is concerned, I'm guilty as charged.



[Edited by Purple Haze on 12-19-2000 at 07:08 AM]
 
Laurel, I've edited my post to delete any specific names. (However, I want to go on the record that in the past I have been accused of "playing games" by NOT naming names. Go figure.)

I still see value in this type of broad discussion, especially if it remains civil.

--With private email, only the single person(s) receive the message. Here, the discussion benefits the board in general.
--Because of the constant influx of new members, it can't be a bad idea to debate what is "acceptable" and want isn't, making the unspoken rules occasionally "spoken."
--It helps me (at least) get over my building irritation, which, as Nicole pointed out, could have eventually escalated into a hateful, accusatory blow up. Because of this thread, I find myself miraculously better able to deal with the inane threads.
--I was born without the Teflon-irritation gene. I can't control what bothers me and what doesn't. If I could, I'd get along better with my husband. LOL. (Is your backside SUPER-GLUED to the couch???)

Love ya, babe. Auf weidershen. (I KNOW I spelled that wrong!)

On a whole other topic, have you ever considered having a Literotica FAQ page? I was just thinking, how many times have we seen a thread that says, "Why am I a virgin?" Or, "How do a create signature?" Etc. Just a suggestion. ;)
 
Kitten Eyes: Don't like it, don't read it.

Well, that was exactly the point of this whole thread, but it mutated. I started out saying that I am doing my best to ignore, but that people are purposely baiting, switching, and cackling, "PSYCH! Mwuhahahah!"

With the current momentum of the board, I could easily get to the point where I'd be ignoring such a large percentage of the threads, that I'd decide to go elsewhere. (No, that's not a threat, just an observation. Many members have already done that.) I would honestly hate for that to happen. Literotica has come to be a haven of entertainment, solace, support, laughter, intellectual stimulation, and friendship for me.

Fortunately, most of these "bad posters" have pretty thick skin.

Fortunately, eh? Ah, we hear from the defense.

Exactly why Laurel's suggestion to privately email probably wouldn't do a lick of good. (Of course, it remains to be seen whether this thread did either.)

I can see the reply now. "Oh, pu-lease! Get a life and quit bothering me. Who are you? The board police? I have a right to start a zillion threads a day if I want, all of them addressed to you, with nothing in them. So there. Have a pleasant day!"

Another benefit of this discussion is that I see now that nogard's suggestion has more merit than I had originally thought. I was hoping in vain to have effected some type of shift, but it's obvious that there are those who remain steadfast in their inanity.
 
WS

Perhaps I am reading your reply incorrectly but what I gather is anyone who disagrees with you is inane and all the dummies should leave (nogard's suggestion, remember?).

When did your opinion become the only viable one?

Oh and btw, there is a BB faq. It's at the top of the page next to the question mark.
 
Kitten Eyes said:
Perhaps I am reading your reply incorrectly but what I gather is anyone who disagrees with you is inane and all the dummies should leave (nogard's suggestion, remember?).

When did your opinion become the only viable one?

Oh and btw, there is a BB faq. It's at the top of the page next to the question mark.

You are reading me incorrectly. Let's not get crazed over this. I don't want this to get nasty, and I sense some hostility from you. I'm going to do my best to rationally explain myself.

Disagreement with me doesn't, in and of itself, mean I regard someone as inane. Neither does being inane once in a while.

The people I am coming to regard as inane are those who are inane so much of the time that I can't help but label them as such in my brain. Just like if someone is funny a lot, like Killer Muffin, in my head she's become a Funny Person. Creamy Lady is so often compassionate, that when I think of her, I think of a caring person.

I'm sure Those Who Shall Remain Nameless have good reasons for being silly. Perhaps they come to the board to escape some hellish life (totally valid reason), or they just don't like being serious here (again, fine). Perhaps they think it amuses other people (which, as Laurel pointed out does happen). It doesn't really matter why. They are perfectly welcome to come here and post.

I'm not calling on Laurel to delete threads. I'm not calling for hard and fast BB rules to be etched in stone. And, although I don't get off on the silly threads, I don't want them banned. I just want to be given a decent chance to ignore what doesn't interest me without being tricked with misleading thread titles. That is all. <smiles>

I never called anyone a dummy. And I certainly didn't demand or even suggest that anyone should leave. I said that it was a possibility that I may leave sometime in the future because of the inanity.

Also, to the best of my knowledge I never implied that my opinion was the only one that counted. If I did, I apologize. I do not think that at all, and I wouldn't mind if you pointed out exactly where I did that. It wouldn't be the first time I didn't realize that my words could have been taken in a way that is different from what I intended.

Lastly, thanks for the info about the FAQ icon. I guess I just never look there. Apparently, neither do the newbies. <chuckles> Ah, Laurel? <in an Emily Latella voice...> Never mind!
 
Whispersecret said:
Lastly, thanks for the info about the FAQ icon. I guess I just never look there. Apparently, neither do the newbies. <chuckles> Ah, Laurel? <in an Emily Latella voice...> Never mind!

I've looked the FAQ page, and there are a few answers to relevant questions. They aren't very well written answers in some cases, and in a few cases, more confusing than helpful.

They do need to be updated based on the questions asked by actual newbies. I have refrained from suggesting this in the past, because I know that I'd get asked to do the rewrite.
 
Yes, I am thick skinned. Not thick enough not to feel sympathy for your plight. You don't like silly threads, they are the bane of my existence. Is it escape for me, no. I do silly shit all the time, on and off the board. Do others find it funny, YES. I get no less than 3 e-mails a day, sometimes 4 and they all tell me that I have brought a smile to their face. Good for me. The e-mails are not from the same three people either. LOL.

One lady wrote to tell me how depressed she was and was sitting at her computer(as a form of escape, I guess) and that my silly threads brought a smile to her face. Hmmm...

Sorry if it drove away the thread about which celebrity you would like to take to the prom or other important threads. I am truly sorry. And no, I am not being facetious. I am sorry that the important threads are on page two. I'll try to do better.

Peace.
 
Ambro, no one is actually asking you to stop doing the silly threads, or the inane ones. The request is that you not put out so many on an hourly basis, and that you don't simply do the bait and switch. Inanity and silliness has it's place, in fact it is a requirement for daily living. But so is exercising the brain, having your thoughts provoked and looking at issues and opining on them in a good discussion format. There is also consideration. I posted a thread that I knew certain people would look at and I was interested in their opinion on the topic. The thread was on page 3 within 2 hours and only one of those people responded to it. It was lost in a sea of inanity. Before you mention that maybe it just wasn't an interesting thread after all, I should point at that it was brought to the top by a thread archeaologist at a better time in the day and several more people have posted on it. I don't expect 90 responses of a serious nature to a what is the meaning of life threads, I would just like some time pressed people to have the opportunity to respond to these threads before they are washed off into coventry.

There is a recently recurring bitch lately, that the boards are slow and there is nothing to do. Silliness and inanity are wonderful things, but when that's all there is, they are boring. Like Whisper stated, there are several BBers whose posts were interesting and thought provoking who've taken themselves off because the board is boring.
 
Maybe I don't get it...I'm not trying to find the meaning of life here. I'm not here for serious conversation, but some topics are fun to debate, especially the political ones. I came here for the SEX, this is a PORN site. I found the bulletin boards and have had a blast, they are fun. FUN.

And I DID apologize.
 
Don't matter anyway.

People will always do what they want to do.

Insincere apologies are worth the cyberpaper they are printed on Ambro. You don't think you've done anything wrong, so therefore you are not sorry, so therefor you should not apologize. I have a problem it, obviously you don't, therefore it's my problem and I'll have to deal with it.

I have two choices, neither of which is attractive. One, put up with you, or two, go away.

Anyway, this will be my last post on this subject. As Laurel so wonderfully obliquely pointed out, there is no point to it.

It is not just a PORN site, by the by. A PORN site has no emotion attached to it. At a PORN site you don't make friends, you get off and go away. If this were merely a PORN site, this discussion would never have happened. The Board may be fun to you, but it is dramatically ceasing to be fun for me.
 
A little clarification. I used a poor choice of words when I suggested that anyone leave the board. What I was trying to get at was if a post(thread) gathered 100 views and only one reply it might clue the poster into realizing he/she wasn't generating much interest and might consider thinking about what they were posting. It is common to see 20-40 views with only 1-2 replies on a continuing basis. What that tells me is 90% of the people viewing the thread don't think it's worth replying to. Hello anyone see the picture. However as said previously these people don't see themselves or have no concern for others. My list continues to grow. I'm reading more and enjoying it more
 
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