A sign of the times?

[Zeb_Carter]

I was just reminiscing on some books I had the misfortune to read back in the late sixties, although at the time, looking back, I believed I did enjoy some of them. It was a series of books, in plain covers – no pictures, no fancy type face – just plain, plain, plain. I don’t recall the titles of any of them now, but I do remember the author – Anonymous.

Yep, that famous author of all kinds of fine literature. Except, these missives were not fine literature by anyone’s standards. The stories that remain in my mind after all these years I found the to be the sickest and most perverse. Golden showers were the least offensive. Scat was prevalent in most of them, while the more perverse, child molestation, was part of some.

I bring this up at a time in which a lot of online publishers are shying away from such subjects. There are people that call our current times decadent, yet the books I speak of were available at the local mall in the book store there. And they were available to anyone. I was sixteen when I found Anonymous on the shelves of the local B.Dalton Bookseller.

The books, real books, were not kept in a special section labeled “Adults Only”. No, they were in the Fiction section, almost the first on the shelf. Over the years I picked up several of those missives, just to see what it was all about. Right.

I remember no outrage from the local populace about these books being on those shelves. And it was not just relegated to one store. B.Dalton’s was a chain store. There were three very big malls within driving distance of where I lived on the southwest side of Chicago at the time. In each, I found those books by Anonymous.

 

[lovecraft68]

I remember those and recall many were some heavy hardcore rape stories. I found one when I was maybe 11 (so late 70's) in my friend's dad's workshop called roped and raped. I took it and I guess lost it in my closet, found it again at 14 and read it. Oh, man is all I can say.

Back then there was no internet and young kids could only get their hands on that stuff if the parents were not watching and back then they were most of the time.

Now if this stuff was on the net any ten year old could find scat and golden showers and whatever. As amazon just proved, its not like they make any effort to keep it for adults only.

And the parents? Too busy on facebook to know what their kids are doing so what we have is others now parenting for you and keeping this material away from everyone rather than just figuring the parents could do their job.

But its all good, kids can just come here and read it, I mean that "if you're not 18 do not enter" is not much of a detriment to viewing any porn site.

 

[PayDay]

1. Did you say Chicago?

2. It's funny how censorship only applies to the obvious.

3. Are you sure you said Chicago and not Hawaii?

4. Kids are exposed to all kinds of horrible shit, but it comes down to the example of the parents, at least one of them.

5. Truthfully, we cannot have a book burning or banning as publishing such things (aka Lolita) is legal. Legally a person can write the fictional image of child rape and do nothing wrong. I hate that fact, but it s the law. A+ to Laurel.

6. Thinking ain't doing unless it is.

 

[oggbashan]

I remember an interesting court case locally.

Seriously pornographic video tapes were banned in the UK but were available freely in Amsterdam. Those who wanted sick videos including snuff movies and child abuse could take a ferry to Holland, buy the videos and sneak them past Customs officers who were more interesting in stopping drug smuggling.

If you were caught, you would be given a lecture, your videos would be confiscated and that was it. No prosecution, no fine, no criminal record.

A group of Kent amateurs decided they could make money by importing banned videos in bulk. They sent one of their number, who could speak Dutch, to Amsterdam to contact the wholesalers in secret.

The arrangement was that the smugglers would go out in a fishing boat to the shipping lane. As a Dutch container ship made its way into the Thames Estuary after dark, a large waterproof sack. marked with a small floating light would be thrown overboard. The smugglers could retrieve the sack which would be filled with the banned videos.

The wholesalers wanted payment in advance. The Kentish men raised the cash and took it to Amsterdam. On the appointed night the sack was thrown overboard, safely collected and the fishing boat returned to shore.

As they landed, they were arrested. Someone had alerted the Customs and the Police.

The next morning they were brought before the local magistrates. They couldn't understand why the magistrates seemed so amused at the sight of the accused lined up before them. The charge was read out:

"Attempting to import banned goods into the UK."

The magistrates decided that the charge was proven but that it was unnecessary to refer the accused to Crown Court for a full trial. Why?

The 'banned' videos, despite their typed salacious titles, were ex-rental Childrens videos such as My Little Pony, Scooby-Doo, etc - dubbed in Dutch.

The 'criminals' were bound over for a year with no other punishment - except loss of their investment.

Their criminal associates and the 'criminals' wives and girlfriends kept reminding them for years of their cunning plan to import smut.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

1. Did you say Chicago?

2. It's funny how censorship only applies to the obvious.

3. Are you sure you said Chicago and not Hawaii?

4. Kids are exposed to all kinds of horrible shit, but it comes down to the example of the parents, at least one of them.

5. Truthfully, we cannot have a book burning or banning as publishing such things (aka Lolita) is legal. Legally a person can write the fictional image of child rape and do nothing wrong. I hate that fact, but it s the law. A+ to Laurel.

6. Thinking ain't doing unless it is.

1. So, you have a problem with Chicago?

2. You have a problem with Chicago?

3. Problems with Chicago?

 

[PayDay]

1. So, you have a problem with Chicago?

2. You have a problem with Chicago?

3. Problems with Chicago?

Only governmental wise. The actors are cool, short of that Robbins guy

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Only governmental wise. The actors are cool, short of that Robbins guy

Me too, government wise. That's why I moved to Texas.

 

[PayDay]

But back to the topic at hand..

Does such a solution exist to fix it, short of holding parents responsible for the actions of their children and vice-versa.

For once? We have a system in place to do just that, coincidental that it seldom is used correctly.

A drug dealing student has bad parents. (or at least 1)

Root 'em out.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

But back to the topic at hand..

Does such a solution exist to fix it, short of holding parents responsible for the actions of their children and vice-versa.

For once? We have a system in place to do just that, coincidental that it seldom is used correctly.

A drug dealing student has bad parents. (or at least 1)

Root 'em out.

Huh?

 

[PayDay]

Huh?

4. Kids are exposed to all kinds of horrible shit, but it comes down to the example of the parents, at least one of them.

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