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How would a T-rex's breath really smell? - ALEXANDRA HUDSON, Reuters News Service, June 30, 2004

KIRKHAM, England - Ordinary smells, Dale Air can do -- but the breath of a Tyrannosaurus Rex? "Where do you start?" asked Frank Knight, director of this small British firm which specializes in "themed aromas."

Most of the smells it creates, like "Granny's Kitchen" or "Burnt Wood," are designed to enhance museum visits or call up long-lost memories. Recreating the breath of a T-Rex for a huge model dinosaur in London's Natural History Museum posed challenges all of their own.

"We spoke to paleontologists, who gave us a description of the dinosaur. Basically the bigger the creature the smellier they were," said Knight, who is passionate about accuracy. " The dinosaurs would have had open sores from fighting, and rotting meat stuck in the gaps between their teeth. "We needed all these features in the eventual odor," he said.

T-Rex breath turned out so accurate and so revolting, the curators instead opted for a milder swamp smell to evoke the creature's natural habitat.

Requests for nasty smells come in quite a lot, requiring some unpleasant research. "I've had otter poo on my desk," said Knight, who created the odor for a zoo's nature trail, alongside the smell of jaguar urine and rotting flesh.

Some jobs are easier on the nose. Dale Air has supplied branches of British travel agent chain Lunn Poly with the scent of coconut oil, aimed at increasing the time customers spend in their stores.

ROMAN SOLDIER'S ARMPIT
Dale Air started life as an air-freshener firm. Then founder Fred Dale, who died earlier this year, found a lucrative sideline. He was invited to mix familiar odors from the 1920s for use in nursing homes. These triggered memories and encouraged conversation among elderly residents. Dale never looked back.

Soon museums were commissioning smells such as "dead Roman soldier's arm pit" and "Viking toilet." "My mum used to say that she never knew who she would be going to bed with -- a horse, or a bear ... as the smells used to linger on my dad's skin," said Fred's son Robert.

Fred Dale's favorite project was the Jorvik Centre museum in York which opened in 1984, boasting Viking smells as its key attraction. Authentic historical smells have since become a much copied feature.

Sarah Maltby, head of visitor attractions at Jorvik, said: "Competition is such nowadays you have to think how you can capture the imagination of your visitors, and thinking of how to capture all the senses is one of the things you have to do."

MIXING POTIONS
Dale Air's most expensive smell to date is frankincense, mixed for a Queen of Sheba exhibition at the British museum. A kilo of the scent lasting for a year cost 150 pounds ($275). The firm's team of perfumers identified the chemical components of the smell and mixed up a replica potion.

Most aromas are supplied as liquids and pumped out through various dispensers. A new model still being tested can fill a 250-seat theater. Knight thinks cinemas may also one day waft appropriate scents through the auditorium but said they should be cautious. "You've got to give people choice. We don't like forcing aromas on people -- and you don't want people going to the cinema and not knowing what they'll encounter."

However, people can use their sense of smell to their advantage and there are some interesting applications. The firm is testing an aroma dispenser which plugs into a computer and is controlled from the keyboard. "Say you've got help desk staff who are getting tense and frustrated -- they can press a button to get an aroma to help calm them down," Knight said.

Most of the firm's smells, such as the "aromas of soccer" set, are for pure entertainment. "Footie Pitch" (soccer field) smells of grass, "Trophy Room" smells of wood polish, "Half Time" smells of pies, and "Changing Room" smells of liniment, giving the over-zealous football fan or club shop an authentic whiff of the beautiful game.

Knight points out that soccer fields are rarely mown the day of a match, so the smell of freshly cut grass won't do. "That's how realistic we are -- we find out when they cut the grass."
 
I don't think I've ever gone to a museum that had those smells, thank God...lol.

I don't think I would want to know what t-rex's breath smelled like, I have a big dog, close enough.

I would love an air freshner that smelled like movie theatre popcorn.:)
 
perdita said:
ROMAN SOLDIER'S ARMPIT

That's the new Jo Malone. It's nicer than it sounds, very Roman, just a hint of Soldier, and most people don't even recognize the mid-note as Armpit because Malone cuts the sweetness with bergamot. The secret, as with all of her fragrances, is "layering."

Knight thinks cinemas may also one day waft appropriate scents through the auditorium but said they should be cautious.
Yes, please.

Les Miserables?

Cool Hand Luke?
 
I can see it now. We'll be going through a historicly acurate diorama of Elizabethian England and they'llhave a scene of a whore house complete with the smells of sex, and everyone qwill be turned on and wanting to get laid. (We all know smell is the strongest of senses.)

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
I can see it now. We'll be going through a historicly acurate diorama of Elizabethian England and they'llhave a scene of a whore house complete with the smells of sex, and everyone qwill be turned on and wanting to get laid. (We all know smell is the strongest of senses.)

Cat

People bathed once a year in Elizabethan England, right? Ladies carried those little dogs around to give their fleas something to chew on besides themselves. I'm not sure "turned on" would be the typical response.

One thing's for sure: popcorn sales would go down during costume dramas from the pre-deodorant era.
 
ABSTRUSE said:
I don't think I've ever gone to a museum that had those smells, thank God...lol.

I don't think I would want to know what t-rex's breath smelled like, I have a big dog, close enough.

I would love an air freshner that smelled like movie theatre popcorn.:)
Abs,

The Smithsonian Air & Space museum was using something like that back around 1980. You'd walk into a WWI "hanger" and see some tools and a couple airplanes and there was a slightly musty smell combined with canvas and oil. They also had a mock-up of an aircraft carrier. When "below decks" the atmosphere was a little cool and damp with metallic and oily smells. I was doing some volunteer museum work back then and the technology just blew me away.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
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Rumple Foreskin said:
Abs,

The Smithsonian Air & Space museum was using something like that back around 1980. You'd walk into a WWI "hanger" and see some tools and a couple airplanes and there was a slightly musty smell combined with canvas and oil. They also had a mock-up of an aircraft carrier. When "below decks" the atmosphere was a little cool and damp with metallic and oily smells. I was doing some volunteer museum work back then and the technology just blew me away.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:

Wow. I didn't know that was a manufactured smell. That's how authentic it is...A friend used to work in marketing at Disney World. They scent the air with the aromas of whatever food is for sale in whatever direction you're heading.

The Disney people are mad geniuses when it comes to manipulating people and motiviating certain behaviors. Nothing is left to chance. To determine how many of those expensive "themed" trash cans to use, they videotaped people carrying paper cups, cigarette butts, etc., to see how long most of us will walk before we give up on finding a trash can and toss our litter on the sidewalk.

Big Brother has been watching since Disneyland was built in the fifties. Now that they have our noses, what's next?
 
perdita said:
MIXING POTIONS
Dale Air's most expensive smell to date is frankincense, mixed for a Queen of Sheba exhibition at the British museum. A kilo of the scent lasting for a year cost 150 pounds ($275). The firm's team of perfumers identified the chemical components of the smell and mixed up a replica potion.

Most aromas are supplied as liquids and pumped out through various dispensers. A new model still being tested can fill a 250-seat theater. Knight thinks cinemas may also one day waft appropriate scents through the auditorium but said they should be cautious. "You've got to give people choice. We don't like forcing aromas on people -- and you don't want people going to the cinema and not knowing what they'll encounter."
I saw a television special a few days ago where they were talking about the synthetic smells industry and all the specialists agreed that the auditorium wide dispenser type concept was nonsense, not because of the technical difficulties of dispensing the smells, but because of the impossibility of getting rid of them rapidly enough, both from the air and from the audience itself: chairs, clothes, hair. After a while, the different smells combined would produce what many of them called the Yorkshire effect: everything gets impregnated with a permanent smell of shit.

What they were foreseeing was one of two systems: either individual headset air ionisers, which would be instantly eliminated, or by direct electrical stimulation of the olfactory nerves. There are several companies trying to digitise smells as we speak, so that in the same way voice is converted into electrical impulses and send by phone - and images by fax - smells can be sent at a distance too.
 
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Lauren Hynde said:
I saw a television special a few days ago where they were talking about the synthetic smells industry and all the specialists agreed that the auditorium wide dispenser type concept was nonsense, not because of the technical difficulties of dispensing the smells, but because of the impossibility of getting rid of them rapidly enough, both from the air and from the audience itself: chairs, clothes, hair. After a while, the different smells combined would produce what many of them called the Yorkshire effect: everything gets impregnated with a permanent smell of shit.

What they were foreseeing was one of two systems: either individual headset air ionisers, which would be instantly eliminated, or by direct electrical stimulation of the olfactory nerves. There are several companies trying to digitise smells as we speak, so that in the same way voice is converted into electrical impulses and send by phone - and images by fax - smells can be sent at a distance too.

Movie theaters in the U.S. depend on snack bar purchases for their profit. I can't imagine much benefit in having a Western flick smell like horse sweat and cow patties, when you're trying to sell Cheese Nachos.
 
I know I've been in museums that do this kind of thing.

It's subtle.

There was a famous prank once. A group of college students, EE majors, a group famed for practical jokes, let it be known that research in EE was coming to fruition.

Smell-o-vision would be tested during X hours. You would not need special equipment, your present receiver unit would do it. Please, they said, help us evaluate the smell-o-vision system on Y channel between X hour and Z hour...

Thus causing hundreds of gullible people to sniff around the set for a while.

cantdog
 
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