A nightmare for Democrats: Trump is getting more credit for the economy

[TalkRadio]

Thanks to the improving economy, something very unusual is going on in American politics.

American voters are separating the personal from the political in perhaps the most significant way ever.

President Donald Trump's overall approval rating in most polls is creeping up lately, yet it remains at historically weak levels for a president at this stage in his first term. But at the same time, voters are starting to become more positive about the economy and more willing to give Trump the credit for it.

What is new is that the voters are showing more than ever that they don't need to like a president or a political party to support their perceived success. That means the Democrats may be concentrating their fire on the wrong target. Trump has endured maximum character assassination for years. But if his policies are soaring in popularity, it's going to be very hard to use him as a proxy to defeat his party in the midterms.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/12/trump-isnt-more-popular-but-his-policies-are-commentary.html

 

[BZee]

Repoz should run ONE AD all 2018 election season



Would YOU vote for anyone who DIDNT want to put MORE money in your pocket!?!

 

[TalkRadio]

Record number of U.S. small-business owners say it’s a good time to expand

Optimism among small companies in the U.S. rose more than forecast in January, fueled by a record number of owners who said now was a good time to expand, according to a National Federation of Independent Business survey released Tuesday.

The new tax law “produced the most recent boost to small-business optimism,” NFIB’s William Dunkelberg and Holly Wade said in a report. “And federal government-related cost pressures continue to abate, offering a more supportive business climate for small firms. Consumer spending remains supportive, and business spending and housing remain strong.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...s-optimism-jumps-more-see-good-time-to-expand

 

[Luk]

Repoz should run ONE AD all 2018 election season



Would YOU vote for anyone who DIDNT want to put MORE money in your pocket!?!

45 will never add a done to your pocket, dummy. You're poor white trash and only benefit 45 at the booth so he don't care about you.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

All fine and good at the moment but nobody is voting at the moment. Anyone who thinks news in Feb is going to be remembered by voters in Nov doesn't know American voters.

 

[HisArpy]

All fine and good at the moment but nobody is voting at the moment. Anyone who thinks news in Feb is going to be remembered by voters in Nov doesn't know American voters.

Apparently the Dems think so.

Chuck Schumer says "you cannot just run against Donald TrUmp
February 12, 2018

"You cannot just run against Donald Trump," Schumer said, arguing Democrats need to make an economic pitch.

More of Crying Chucky's whining

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Apparently the Dems think so.



More of Crying Chucky's whining

So him saying you can't just run against Trump (whatever that means) is a sign they think voters will give a shit what happened 9 months ago?
It's what's happening at the moment that matters. No matter how good the economy is right now, if it's shit in November or if something else large is going on that's all that they'll care about. What have you done for me lately is the American voter mantra.

 

[Hypoxia]

It's what's happening at the moment that matters. No matter how good the economy is right now, if it's shit in November or if something else large is going on that's all that they'll care about. What have you done for me lately is the American voter mantra.

All recent POTUSi (and most state governators) have tried to engineer economic booms timed for the next election. Dubya kinda screwed the pooch there. I recall analyses showing current economics as being the dominant force behind popular votes, like Gore and HRC's wins. If real wages don't shoot up for most voters by October, the Gups are toast in November.

 

[Lapdog420]

Trump and the GOP have already done a ton of harm to our economy. After only a year, interest rates are up. Inflation is up. The trade deficit is up. US treasury notes have to pay higher rates. The dollar is weaker. Gas prices are up. Food prices are up. As well they just added another trillion plus to the national debt by giving the rich and corporation a tax gift. Today a dishwasher pays a greater percentage of his income then a fat rich shit sitting on his yacht tanning his fat ass while clipping his corporate coupons. I sure hope they take the credit for the latest raping of the middle class!

 

[WoundedKnee]

OMG

When interest rates go up, so does the incentive to save. They were held too low for too long in order to keep the Party of Government looking like it was delivering a good economy based upon its fallacies about what makes an economy grow.

 

[BZee]

Trump and the GOP have already done a ton of harm to our economy. After only a year, interest rates are up. Inflation is up. The trade deficit is up. US treasury notes have to pay higher rates. The dollar is weaker. Gas prices are up. Food prices are up. As well they just added another trillion plus to the national debt by giving the rich and corporation a tax gift. Today a dishwasher pays a greater percentage of his income then a fat rich shit sitting on his yacht tanning his fat ass while clipping his corporate coupons. I sure hope they take the credit for the latest raping of the middle class!

Idiot

 

[HisArpy]

Trump and the GOP have already done a ton of harm to our economy. After only a year, interest rates are up. Inflation is up. The trade deficit is up. US treasury notes have to pay higher rates. The dollar is weaker. Gas prices are up. Food prices are up. As well they just added another trillion plus to the national debt by giving the rich and corporation a tax gift. Today a dishwasher pays a greater percentage of his income then a fat rich shit sitting on his yacht tanning his fat ass while clipping his corporate coupons. I sure hope they take the credit for the latest raping of the middle class!

The Fed ended "quantitative easing" (the stimulus) last Sept and planned to increase interest rates as needed based upon economic growth. As the economy grows, so do rates rise. That's the only reason behind the interest rate increases - the Gov isn't artificially keeping them low.

Inflation isn't rising more than expected. In 2011, under Obama, the inflation rate was 3.2%. 2012's rate was 2.1%. The years of 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016 showed rates around 1.5%. 2017's rate is 2.1%. This is not unexpectedly high or out of norm for the statistical trend and is lower than the rate for 2012 under Obama who continued the stimulus program to combat higher inflation rates. The rate of inflation under the Trump administration, and without the stimulus program, is NORMAL.

The price of EVERYTHING started rapidly rising 8-10 years ago as companies raised prices on their goods by either direct price increases or reduction in quantity with a smaller price increase. Everyone paid more for less. You only need to track your own expenses to see that. Interestingly enough, the price of gas here in California has only risen because of additional gasoline taxes, not increased refinery costs. In the past couple of years we've had a glut of crude sitting offshore in tankers that had no place to put it. That actually drove gas prices down last year until the new taxes were added. Here, gas went up from about 2.75/gal to around 3.15/gal and then dropped back to approx 2.9/gal as refinery costs went down and the oil giants adjusted the prices at the pump. So, your premise that the cost of gas is rising is flat wrong. The rest is correct though but it's not because of anything Trump's admin has done.

The average American will see an increase in his paycheck under the new tax laws. This is fact, not hyperbole. How much depends on the rate of pay per individual but by doubling the standard deduction, most will see a pretty decent pay raise. A lot of companies are even liking the plan so much that they VOLUNTARILY gave their people pay raises equal to (without yearly graduating steps) the Progressive "minimum wage" of $15/hr. so, the tax plan actually accomplishes what the Dems WANTED to do yet now they whine about how awful it is. Your talking point here has been debunked many times over and that you continue to hold on to it shows desperation.

Consumer confidence is rising steadily. Trump's poll numbers are rising too. I have some suspicion that the reason is that the continual attacks by the Dem's over agenda items that seem to be working is the reason behind it. The idiotic refusal to accept Trump's DACA deal will only continue that trend. The Dem's are toast in Nov unless they figure this out.

 

[Hypoxia]

Intel chief: Federal debt poses 'dire threat' to national security

Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats warned lawmakers Tuesday that failing to curb the national debt could jeopardize national security.

Coats, testifying before the Senate Intelligence Committee, said he’s concerned that the U.S. government’s “increasingly fractious political process, particularly with respect to federal spending, is threatening our ability to defend our nation, both in the short term and especially in the long term.” ...

Coats, former chairman of the Joint Economic Committee and member of the Senate Finance Committee, said the U.S. fiscal situation “is unsustainable as I think we all know and represents a dire threat to our economy and national security.”

Tromp is owned by Putin.
Tromp is sabotaging national security.
Tromp and his supporters are committing treason.

Smile for the hangman.

 

[HisArpy]

Intel chief: Federal debt poses 'dire threat' to national security
Tromp is owned by Putin.
Tromp is sabotaging national security.
Tromp and his supporters are committing treason.

Smile for the hangman.

#1 - prove it. With EVIDENCE.
#2 - prove it. With ACTUAL E.V.I.D.E.N.C.E. Not lies, conjecture, talking points narrative, or supposition.
#3 - patently false. Go read the definition of Treason.

#4 - this is the bigs. We don't play kid games like hangman here.

 

[Hypoxia]

Intel chief: Federal debt poses 'dire threat' to national security Tromp is owned by Putin.
Tromp is sabotaging national security.
Tromp and his supporters are committing treason.

Smile for the hangman.

#1 - prove it. With EVIDENCE.
#2 - prove it. With ACTUAL E.V.I.D.E.N.C.E. Not lies, conjecture, talking points narrative, or supposition.
#3 - patently false. Go read the definition of Treason.

#4 - this is the bigs. We don't play kid games like hangman here.

#1. Developing evidence ain't my job. But let's see Tromp's financials.
#2. That's what Tromp's spy chief told Congress. It's his job, not mine.
#3. Read US Constitution, Art.III, Sec.3.
#4. It ain't a game. See #3.

 

[HisArpy]

#1. Developing evidence ain't my job. But let's see Tromp's financials.
#2. That's what Tromp's spy chief told Congress. It's his job, not mine.
#3. Read US Constitution, Art.III, Sec.3.
#4. It ain't a game. See #3.

#1. So you admit that you project your accusations without evidence? Shame.
#2. No. What he SAID was that the budget risked national security. CONGRESS passed the budget, not Trump. Get your facts straight.
#3. Speaking of facts, since when was war declared? And on what nation?

#4. No it's not. And you're not ready to play in the big leagues.

 

[Hypoxia]

#1. So you admit that you project your accusations without evidence? Shame.

I'm no detective but here:

* TRUMP'S 'ART OF THE DEAL' GHOSTWRITER TONY SCHWARTZ SAYS 'PUTIN OWNS TRUMP'
* How Trump walked into Putin’s web
* Odds Are, Russia Owns Trump
* ‘Putin owns him — 100 percent’
* Follow the Russian Oligarch Money

#2. No. What he SAID was that the budget risked national security. CONGRESS passed the budget, not Trump. Get your facts straight.

DIRE risk is what he said. And POTUS signed the budget. Did you ever pass a civics class?

#3. Speaking of facts, since when was war declared? And on what nation?

The Russian defense minister and the US UN ambassador, cabinet-level officials, both declared that Russia is waging war on the US.

#4. No it's not. And you're not ready to play in the big leagues.

I do not play in any league. If YOU wish to win an Internet argument, go right ahead.

 

[about_average]

OMG

When interest rates go up, so does the incentive to save. They were held too low for too long in order to keep the Party of Government looking like it was delivering a good economy based upon its fallacies about what makes an economy grow.

And we're supposed to believe you?

No, inflation is created by the Fed. Please, when you keep making these claims, can you provide some sourcing?

 

[coati]

#4. No it's not. And you're not ready to play in the big leagues.

Did I just hear that this chickenshit anonymous GB is considered the the big leagues in the mind of some right-wing ditto-head?

Talk about confusing the virtual world with reality!

 

[Aglaopheme]

Dems have flipped 36 seats in special elections and are running a 10 and 23 point performance gain over results from 2012 and 2016.

 

[coati]

Every time the Repugs have made major moves to concentrate wealth with the rich and the major corporations, the economy has collapsed. Next time this happens, it is not likely there will be sufficient resources and political will for a major bail-out.

Get ready for the next one...

 

[WoundedKnee]

And we're supposed to believe you?

Don't care, but if you do not understand that the Fed creates inflation or fears of deflation, then you pretty much don't know what you are talking about. Inflation only occurs when the currency is debased. Inflation is a measure of currency, not prices, because some prices will rise due to market forces, and at the same time some will fall, but it is only monetary policy that makes prices rise in unison as it creates a greater demand for money since money has lost spending power.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Every time the Repugs have made major moves to concentrate wealth with the rich and the major corporations, the economy has collapsed. Next time this happens, it is not likely there will be sufficient resources and political will for a major bail-out.

Get ready for the next one...

Why is it that the "inequality gap" increased so much under President Obama? Is it possibly because the Fed's monetary policies benefitted the money industry more than it did the working man?

 

[HisArpy]

I'm no detective but here:

* TRUMP'S 'ART OF THE DEAL' GHOSTWRITER TONY SCHWARTZ SAYS 'PUTIN OWNS TRUMP'
* How Trump walked into Putin’s web
* Odds Are, Russia Owns Trump
* ‘Putin owns him — 100 percent’
* Follow the Russian Oligarch Money

This is not "EVIDENCE" it is nothing more than opinion. For every one of these I can find one of the opposite view. Not evidence of anything.

DIRE risk is what he said. And POTUS signed the budget. Did you ever pass a civics class?

Still not "Trump's fault". He signs the bills that Congress sends to him. Or vetoes them. He is not responsible, either personally or as President, for the CONTENT. If the budget risks national security, that is Congress' problem to resolve. Perhaps they have a plan to do so and merely forgot to tell you and I about it.

The Russian defense minister and the US UN ambassador, cabinet-level officials, both declared that Russia is waging war on the US.

Treason requires an actual declaration of war. Please provide a citation to it.

I do not play in any league. If YOU wish to win an Internet argument, go right ahead.

This is quite apparent based upon the unknowlegeable ferver buried in your commentary on various subjects. Since I have your permission; for the win, the ACTUAL term you are trying to use instead of "treason" is "seditious conspiracy" found in 18 USC 2384. It still doesn't apply to Trump because - definitions. OTOH, it just might apply to H, Comey, Lisa Page, Ohr and spouse, Strzok, Steele, McCabe, Perez (chairman of the DNC), Rice, and maybe Mueller himself. (Doubtful but possible.)

 

[Lapdog420]

Why is it that the "inequality gap" increased so much under President Obama? Is it possibly because the Fed's monetary policies benefitted the money industry more than it did the working man?

The Bush GOP tax cuts of 2001, 2003 that benefited the top 1% and the lowering of the capital gains tax rate that benefited investors are the two major factors that led to this inequality.