A Nation of Cowards

[night&day]

Just Waiting ..

for the nation to cut them checks for all their past suffering. And all you whites that voted for Obama apparently have alot of guilt! My family never have owed any slaves has none.

The blacks, or Afro-Americans (whatever they want to be called, one can never be sure) walk around with chips on their shoulders still looking for their 40 acres and their mules after over 30 years of affirmative action.

Black, White, Yellow, or Green this country owes you nothing but the opportunity to make something of yourselfs. You will need to make the effort and stop blaming whitie for all the ills of the black community. You make-up 13% of the population, have babies out of wedlock in 75% of the time and make up 30% of the prison population. Martin Luther King must be spinning in his grave!!!!

 

[cjh]

for the nation to cut them checks for all their past suffering. And all you whites that voted for Obama apparently have alot of guilt! My family never have owed any slaves has none.

The blacks, or Afro-Americans (whatever they want to be called, one can never be sure) walk around with chips on their shoulders still looking for their 40 acres and their mules after over 30 years of affirmative action.

Black, White, Yellow, or Green this country owes you nothing but the opportunity to make something of yourselfs. You will need to make the effort and stop blaming whitie for all the ills of the black community. You make-up 13% of the population, have babies out of wedlock in 75% of the time and make up 30% of the prison population. Martin Luther King must be spinning in his grave!!!!

this, too, illustrates the point. all too well.

hi, lavvy.

 

[lavender]

this, too, illustrates the point. all too well.

hi, lavvy.

Hey there - always nice to see you around fighting not only the good fight - but the correct one.

 

[cjh]

Hey there - always nice to see you around fighting not only the good fight - but the correct one.

i don't do it much here any longer. it's all too predicable and repetitive.

busybody has not called me a name in years.

 

[lavender]

i don't do it much here any longer. it's all too predicable and repetitive.

busybody has not called me a name in years.

All busybody calls me now is barren one - which demonstrates the typical obsession of the far right with women's wombs.

 

[MeeMie]

(you really are going to try to casually dismiss "barack the magic negro"?)

What I said was, "I'm sure you know the source of "barack the magic negro" "

Because I do:

Conservative satirist Paul Shanklin wrote the song, which ran on Rush Limbaugh's show with an Al Sharpton impersonator.:

Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times they called him that
'cause he's not authentic like me...

"Yeah the guy from the L.A. paper
said he made guilty whites feel good
they'll vote for him and not for me
'cause he's not from the hood..."



Inspiration for the song came from a March, 2007 Los Angeles Times op-ed piece called “Obama the Magic Negro” in which David Ehrenstein, a biracial film critic, tried to dissect the ‘Magic Negro’ myth.

The ‘Magic Negro’ in folk culture is a black person (typically male) who makes white people feel less bad about the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history. He’s a benign figure, stripped of the dangerous, hyper-sexual black male stereotypes.

Liberal Democrats and their allies in the media didn't utter a word about David Ehrenstein's irresponsible column in the Los Angeles Times last March.

But now, of course, you're shocked and appalled by its parody.

 

[MeeMie]

Not only this, but the NY Post chimpanzee cartoon? And the "he's ...he's a Muslim" comments?

Or what about Saxby Chambliss's comments "those people are out voting."

Try to get your facts straight, young lady.


My posts about the monkey cartoon were not at all racist:

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=30176775&postcount=8

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=30176821&postcount=9

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=30194831&postcount=15



And, Obama was in fact muslim. Regardless, if you care to accept it, or not.

I have no idea what you're referring to in the last "what about..."
Care to enlighten me with a link relating to something I posted?

 

[cjh]

What I said was, "I'm sure you know the source of "barack the magic negro" "

Because I do:

Conservative satirist Paul Shanklin wrote the song, which ran on Rush Limbaugh's show with an Al Sharpton impersonator.:

Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times they called him that
'cause he's not authentic like me...

"Yeah the guy from the L.A. paper
said he made guilty whites feel good
they'll vote for him and not for me
'cause he's not from the hood..."



Inspiration for the song came from a March, 2007 Los Angeles Times op-ed piece called “Obama the Magic Negro” in which David Ehrenstein, a biracial film critic, tried to dissect the ‘Magic Negro’ myth.

The ‘Magic Negro’ in folk culture is a black person (typically male) who makes white people feel less bad about the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history. He’s a benign figure, stripped of the dangerous, hyper-sexual black male stereotypes.

Liberal Democrats and their allies in the media didn't utter a word about David Ehrenstein's irresponsible column in the Los Angeles Times last March.

But now, of course, you're shocked and appalled by its parody.

"I am shocked and appalled that anyone would think this is appropriate, as it clearly does not move us in the right direction."
- former RNC chairman Mike Duncan

"This is so inappropriate that it should disqualify any Republican National Committee candidate who would use it."
- Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich

 

[where]

And, Obama was in fact muslim. Regardless, if you care to accept it, or not.

you have something that actually backs this up? I mean other than C&Ps from rightwing islamophobic blogs

 

[MeeMie]

"I am shocked and appalled that anyone would think this is appropriate, as it clearly does not move us in the right direction."
- former RNC chairman Mike Duncan

"This is so inappropriate that it should disqualify any Republican National Committee candidate who would use it."
- Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich

What is your point?


You brought it up. I questioned if you knew the origin of the phrase before you attributed it to other posters; and, then showed you.

Where did I say it was appropriate?
If that indeed was the inference of your last post.

 

[MeeMie]

you have something that actually backs this up? I mean other than C&Ps from rightwing islamophobic blogs

Haven't read any of his books, I see.

 

[Sean]

What is your point?


You brought it up. I questioned if you knew the origin of the phrase before you attributed it to other posters; and, then showed you.

Where did I say it was appropriate?
If that indeed was the inference of your last post.

Stick to c+ps, every time you opine, you look stupid.

 

[off2bed]

Stick to c+ps, every time you opine, you look stupid.

At least he looks sober.

 

[Shugahhhh]

Even if Obama practiced Islam now, wtf is the difference? He could be an imam for all I care. It's not even an issue but for the ignorance and prejudice of people like you.

 

[where]

Haven't read any of his books, I see.

Comments: We are asked to believe that Senator Barack Obama, who for 20 years has professed to be a practicing Christian and has spoken publicly of his "personal relationship with Jesus Christ," is in fact secretly a Muslim and has lied all along about his true religious affiliation.

No proof is offered by those who make these claims -- no sightings of Barack Obama attending a mosque, no pictures of him reading the Koran, praying to Mecca, or observing Islamic holidays with his family. The entire case, such as it is, rests on a confused and error-ridden recitation of Obama's upbringing and purported childhood influences. It also rests on -- or exploits -- a deep fear and mistrust of the Muslim faith.

Virtually everything we do know about Obama's parentage and upbringing, it should be stipulated, comes from the senator himself. Obama told the story of his search to uncover his African heritage in Dreams from My Father (Three Rivers Press, 2004), and shared further autobiographical details in The Audacity of Hope (Crown Publishers, 2006). He spoke at length about his Christian beliefs in a 2004 Chicago Sun Times interview with Cathleen Falsani. Must we take his word for all of it? Not necessarily. But in the absence of contrary evidence we have no reason to doubt Obama's own candid account of his life story.

Was Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a "radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia?"

No. Though Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was raised a Muslim, he had lost his faith and become a "confirmed atheist" by the time he attended college, according to his son. Obama's parents separated when Barack was two, his father moving not to Jakarta, but to the United States, where he attended Harvard. Eventually he returned to Kenya.

Did Obama's mother go on to marry another Muslim named Lolo Soetoro who "educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools?"

Yes and no. When Obama's mother remarried, it was indeed to an Indonesian man named Lolo Soetoro, whom his stepson describes as a "non-practicing" Muslim. But it was his "secular" mother who supervised his education, Obama has written, sending him to both Catholic and Muslim primary schools after the family moved to Jakarta. There is nothing on record to indicate Obama attended a madrassa (Muslim religious school) run by Wahabbists, and in any case it's unlikely his mother would have chosen to expose him to such an extreme form of Islam given her stated abhorrence of religious closed-mindedness and her stated goal of giving him a well-rounded education, including in matters of faith.

(Update: CNN has tracked down the school in question, the Basuki School in Jakarta, which a deputy headmaster described as a "public school" with no particular religious agenda. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment," he told CNN. A classmate of Obama's described the school as "general," with students of many religious backgrounds attending. Obama entered the school at the age of 8 and attended for two years.)

Is it true that "Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim?"

Once a Muslim? When? Unless I missed it while skimming Obama's two books and sundry news interviews, the senator has never mentioned being a Muslim at any point in his life. Yes, he lived in a Muslim country during part of his childhood and briefly attended a Muslim school there, but he certainly wasn't raised a Muslim and has never been, so far as I have been able to determine, a practitioner of that faith.

That anyone, let alone a sitting U.S. senator with designs on the highest office in the land, would conceal being a Muslim for twenty-odd years while going through the outward motions of practicing Christianity (or vice-versa, for that matter) is a bizarre accusation. I would be tempted to dismiss it as paranoid lunacy if it weren't so obviously a crass, politically-motivated smear.

Is it true that when Obama was sworn into office he used the Koran (Qur'an) instead of the Bible?

No. According to news accounts Barack Obama placed his hand on his personal Bible during his Senate swearing-in ceremony, which was conducted by Vice-President Dick Cheney. Those making this allegation have apparently confused Obama with Congressman Keith Ellison, who actually is a Muslim and was sworn in on January 4, 2007 using a copy of the Koran.

 

[Sean]

At least he looks sober.

You think? Ask him about the thousands of Dem activists that registered as Reps to elect McCain.

 

[KellysCrack]

i am not quite certain how you find america to be yet colorblind. but then, maybe i interpret the significance of "barack the magic negro" and the significance of the attitudes exemplifed by people like memphis man and pellsio and cade and shagly differently than do you.

I am sorry but wasnt that done as a humor piece? Seriously...when people quit with the its okay for me to call u N**** because I am black but it is not okay for whitey to say it and quit having the double standards for words....ebonics i believe.

What crap is that I dont run around pissed off demanding things because my Irish ansestors were brought here as indentured servents or touting how badly I as a American indian was treated by whitey...hell no they just call me whitey. Why cause thats the color of my skin.

Who gives a shit..start acting like nation and not a bunch of races!

 

[cjh]

I am sorry but wasnt that done as a humor piece? Seriously...when people quit with the its okay for me to call u N**** because I am black but it is not okay for whitey to say it and quit having the double standards for words....ebonics i believe.

What crap is that I dont run around pissed off demanding things because my Irish ansestors were brought here as indentured servents or touting how badly I as a American indian was treated by whitey...hell no they just call me whitey. Why cause thats the color of my skin.

Who gives a shit..start acting like nation and not a bunch of races!

that's the point, isn't it?

if i apply blackface and tell jokes, is it okay because it's a humor piece?

somebody explain to me whether there is some black consensus on reparations. i keep seeing it raised as if every black person in america is in favor of reparations.

or is this part of that dialogue in which we are not engaged?

shot yourself in the foot with the magic negro maneuver, meemee.

 

[TurdFergeson]

that's the point, isn't it?

if i apply blackface and tell jokes, is it okay because it's a humor piece?

somebody explain to me whether there is some black consensus on reparations. i keep seeing it raised as if every black person in america is in favor of reparations.

or is this part of that dialogue in which we are not engaged?

shot yourself in the foot with the magic negro maneuver, meemee.

If I was black I'd be for reparations...just like if I was a CEO of a fortune 500 corporation i'd want tax cuts on my corporation and some nice fat pork thrown in.

 

[MeeMie]

shot yourself in the foot with the magic negro maneuver, meemee.

Not at all. I just showed how you used the phrase out of context, deliberately omitting its source, to make a point.

 

[cjh]

Not at all. I just showed how you used the phrase out of context, deliberately omitting its source, to make a point.

i did not use it out of context. not in the slightest.

should we talk about deliberately omitting sources, though?

 

[MeeMie]

Quoted straight out of the Annenburg Political Fact Check which is hardly unbiased ... re: Obama's affiliation with the Annenburg Foundation

All of these FACTS can be CHECKED through various sources, including Obama's own books:

According to his own book, Obama "willfully sought after the heritage of his father and through his step father, attended Islamic schools"

In two best-selling autobiographies—”The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream” and “Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance”—Mr. Obama mentions his attendance at a “predominantly Muslim school” and said "In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Quranic studies."

During his years in Jakarta, Indonesia, the young Obama was enrolled in a Madrassa and was raised and educated as a Muslim. Although Indonesia is regarded as a moderate Muslim state, the U.S. intelligence community has determined that most of these schools are financed by the Saudi Arabian government and they teach a Wahhabi doctrine that denies the rights of non-Muslims to attend.

This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy's religion as Islam:

http://sondrak.com/images/uploads/obama_doc.jpg

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam.

Barry’s religion was listed as Islam. On this basis he was released from classes so he could study the Koran and say the Shahada, recitation of which makes one a Muslim.

He was listed there as a Muslim and so qualified under their rules to be exempt from Catholic religious studies.

The second school Obama attended in Indonesia, Besuki Primary School, was a state run school that required Muslims to attend Islamic studies each day where Obama was taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.






And, as an adult, more confirmation of his early muslim affiliations:




From the NYT article "Obama:Man of the World"
[Reference March 6, 2007, Nicholas D. Kristoff, NY Times Select:

“I was a little Jakarta street kid,” Obama said he once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but as president he is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — since he once studied the Koran with them.

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated, Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

Muslims consider the recital of the call to prayer as a defacto part of fundamental Islamic/Muslim religious membership? [Reference The Adhan (Ilsamic call to prayer)].

Allah is Most Great. Allah is Most Great.
Allah is Most Great. Allah is Most Great.
I bear witness that there is none worthy of being worshipped except Allah.
I bear witness that there is none worthy of being worshipped except Allah.
I bear witness that Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah.
I bear witness that Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah.
Come to prayer. Come to prayer.
Come to Success. Come to Success.
Allah is Most Great. Allah is Most Great.
There is none worthy of being worshipped except Allah.
​

“If I go to Jakarta and address the largest Muslim country on earth, I can say, ‘Apa kabar,’ — you know, ‘How are you doing?’ — and they can recognize that I understand their common humanity,” Obama said. “That is a strength, and it allows me to say things to them that other presidents might not be able to say." [in their own language]



Obama's half brother proudly displays of Obama at the age of 24, wearing traditional Muslim garb.

 

[MeeMie]

i did not use it out of context. not in the slightest.

should we talk about deliberately omitting sources, though?

Good point!

What I meant to say was that you deliberately ommited the origin of the phrase (as shown earlier in this thread)

 

[cjh]

my son went to a jewish school for two years.

it was a great school.

didn't change that fact that he'd been baptised and went to church every sunday.

 

[cjh]

Good point!

What I meant to say was that you deliberately ommited the origin of the phrase (as shown earlier in this thread)

no i did not "intentionally omit" it.

no more than you intentionally omitted limbaugh's and chip saltsman.

on top of that, i referred to "barak the magic negro" and not "obama the magic negro." that's an important detail to remember as you engage in your pedantic chore. my reference is fine, thank you.