A little slice of history

[rgraham666]

How avarice played a major role in The Holocaust.

Hitler's Greedy Executioners

 

[Liar]

Avarice. Such a beautiful word...phonetically. Just like cupidity. They sound like they should mean something pretty, instead of the ugly things they actually do represent.

 

[Guest]

Avarice. Such a beautiful word...phonetically. Just like cupidity. They sound like they should mean something pretty, instead of the ugly things they actually do represent.

That's brilliantly put, Liar.

Yes. That article horrified me, Rob. I knew about it, had heard it before, but put in such stark terms it chills me completely.

 

[cloudy]

"I hear echoes of it when I hear people complain about émigrés taking jobs," he says.

Oh, god - so do I.

 

[Stella_Omega]

"I hear echoes of it when I hear people complain about émigrés taking jobs," he says.

Oh, god - so do I.

And when I hear White Power groups talking about how the lesser races are taking all the resources for themselves.

oh, yes, greed is a powerful thing. People like Ami can't even hide their greed-motivation.

 

[Belegon]

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.


There are many ways in which the current power structure has learned lessons from similar schools of political thought to that espoused by the Nazi's. Among these are the use of fear and distraction as well as greed. The recent addition of immigration propaganda and the attempt to elevate it to an issue they can use to their benefit in 2008 is painfully transparent to those of us paying attention.

The problem is that far too many are NOT paying attention.

Avarice has it's place in their agenda.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

BELEGON

I love the flocculent quality of your mind. When you post I'm often reminded of the tale about the bear and rabbit shitting together out in the woods.

 

[Belegon]

BELEGON

I love the flocculent quality of your mind. When you post I'm often reminded of the tale about the bear and rabbit shitting together out in the woods.

my mind has a fluffy, wool-like quality? That one is new to me.

When you post I often wonder why I bother to read it, especially since you still apparently feel the need to "shout" for attention every time.

Just because I rarely post in political threads doesn't mean I don't comprehend them, Mr. Rabbit.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

The avarice of Hitler's executioners.

As distinct from the the altruism of Stalin and Mao's.

Victims just as dead either way.

May have to look elsewhere for causation.

 

[rgraham666]

What makes you think that the genocides of Hitler and those of Stalin and Mao were motivated by the same thing, Roxanne?

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

What makes you think that the genocides of Hitler and those of Stalin and Mao were motivated by the same thing, Roxanne?

I not saying they were, although at some level it all comes down to some innate potential humanity has for savagery. I'm just challenging the implication that some might take away that avarice is uniquely or particulary the source for savagery.

 

[rgraham666]

The article never made that claim, Roxanne.

But there is no denying that avarice can contribute to savagery.

 

[cheerful_deviant]

None of this is anything new. You can take a line back through history and find many more cases of mass killings just to get ahold of the weath of the dead. Look back as far as Octavian (Agustus) in the Roman Empire. He proscribed hundreds (thousands?) to raise money to pay his armies, most for no other reason than they had money. Even his former mentor was on the list.

It was said by one Roman senator at the time, (I can't recall the name) that he was being 'hunted by his villa', meaning that he was proscribed so his home could be confiscated and sold.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

BELEGON

The word has other meanings.

 

[cloudy]

BELEGON

The word has other meanings.

since when?

floc·cu·lent
Function: adjective

1: resembling wool especially in loose fluffy organization
2: containing, consisting of, or occurring in the form of loosely aggregated particles or soft flakes (a flocculent precipitate)

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

More and more I find myself liking St. Augustine.
Pirates and Emperors

 

[Guest]

since when?

floc·cu·lent
Function: adjective

1: resembling wool especially in loose fluffy organization
2: containing, consisting of, or occurring in the form of loosely aggregated particles or soft flakes (a flocculent precipitate)

Interesting. I found this -

flocculent

1. Clothed with small flocks or flakes; woolly.

2. <ornithology> Applied to the down of newly hatched or unfledged birds.

See: Flock of wool.

Source: Websters Dictionary

(01 Mar 1998)


And also this -

Flocculent Spiral Galaxy

A flocculent spiral is one that has patchy structures in its disk rather than a well organised spiral structure. Spiral arms are very difficult to trace in these galaxies, often starting and stopping at random. This is in contrast to galaxies in which the spiral arms are very well defined, often called grand design spirals. It is thought that structure in the disks of flocculent spirals originate from regions of star formation that have been stretched into spiral patterns by the differential rotation of the galaxy. This is the key idea underpinning the self-propagating star formation model for the origin of spiral arms.

 

[Guest]

More and more I find myself liking St. Augustine.
Pirates and Emperors

Wow.

My kids loved it.

We were equal parts amused and resigned.

 

[cloudy]

Wow.

My kids loved it.

We were equal parts amused and resigned.

"A bully is as a bully does."

Perfect.

 

[thebullet]

Roxanne misses the point, probably on purpose. The standard right wing reaction to criticism is to divert it in another direction rather than answer it.

"Greed is good." Isn't that the rallying cry of many Americans now? Michael Douglas used that phrase in Wall Street as I recall.

I've read lots of books about Germany up to and during WW2 in an effort to understand how such a noble and sophisticated people like the Germans could so easily slide into and accept the savagery of Nazism. How could an educated people at best look the other way and at worst actively participate in the horror?

rgraham's article in part addresses the question. There was profit to be earned by ignoring the truth. William Shirer was on the streets of Berlin on September 2, 1939, the day after the beginning of the Blitkrieg against Poland. He asked the men on the street for their feelings about things. Their response was: How could the Poles be so mean to us? What have we ever done to them that they would fight us in this way?

While the wehrmacht was pounding Warsaw into submission, the German people were wondering why the Poles were so anti-German.

It was kind of an Orwellian double-speak that resonates with the way things work in America today. Our present administration converses in double-speak fluently. Black is white. War is peace. Perpetual war for perpetual peace. Is this a great country or what?

 

[rgraham666]

More and more I find myself liking St. Augustine.
Pirates and Emperors

Snicker. Hilarious.