A light at the end of the tunnel?

Colleen Thomas

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CAIRO, Egypt - Muslims worldwide are the main perpetrators of terrorism, a humiliating and painful truth that must be acknowledged, a prominent Arab writer and television executive wrote Saturday, as Middle East media and officials expressed horror at the bloody rebel siege of a Russian school.

Unusually forthright self-criticism followed the end of the hostage crisis, along with warnings that such actions inflict more damage to the image of Islam than all its enemies could hope. Arab leaders and Muslim clerics denounced the school seizure as unjustifiable and expressed their sympathy.

Russian commandos stormed the school Friday in Beslan, Russia; it had been taken over by rebels demanding independence for Chechnya (news - web sites). Russian officials said Saturday that the death toll was in the hundreds — many of them children.

Images of terrified young survivors being carried from the scene aired repeatedly on Arab TV stations. Pictures of dead and wounded children ran on front pages of Arab newspapers Saturday.

"Holy warriors" from the Middle East long have supported fellow Muslims fighting in Chechnya, and Russian officials said nine or 10 Arabs were among militants killed.

"Our terrorist sons are an end-product of our corrupted culture," Abdulrahman al-Rashed, general manager of Al-Arabiya television wrote in his daily column published in the pan-Arab Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper. It ran under the headline, "The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists are Muslims!"

Al-Rashed ran through a list of recent attacks by Islamic extremist groups — in Russia, Iraq (news - web sites), Sudan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen — many of which are influenced by the ideology of Osama Bin Laden, the Saudi-born leader of the al-Qaida terror network.

"Most perpetrators of suicide operations in buses, schools and residential buildings around the world for the past 10 years have been Muslims," he wrote. Muslims will be unable to cleanse their image unless "we admit the scandalous facts," rather than offer condemnations or justifications.

"The picture is humiliating, painful and harsh for all of us," al-Rashed wrote.

Contributors to Islamic Web sites known for their extremist content had mixed reactions on the hostage crisis, with some praising the separatists. Others wrote that people should wait until the militants had been identified before implicating Arabs in the drama.

Ahmed Bahgat, an Egyptian Islamist, wrote in his column in Egypt's leading pro-government newspaper, Al-Ahram, that hostage-takers in Russia as well as in Iraq are only harming Islam.

"If all the enemies of Islam united together and decided to harm it ... they wouldn't have ruined and harmed its image as much as the sons of Islam have done by their stupidity, miscalculations, and misunderstanding of the nature of this age," Bahgat wrote.

The horrifying images of the dead and wounded Russian students "showed Muslims as monsters who are fed by the blood of children and the pain of their families."

Mohammed Mahdi Akef, leader of Egypt's largest Islamic group, the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, said in general, kidnappings may be justified, but killings are not. He said the school siege did not fit the Islamic concept of jihad, or holy war.

"What happened yesterday is not jihad because our Islam obligates us to respect the souls of human beings; it is not about taking them away," Akef told The Associated Press.

Ali Abdullah, a Bahraini scholar who follows the ultraconservative Salafi stream of Islam, condemned the school attack as "un-Islamic," but insisted Muslims weren't behind it.

"I have no doubt in my mind that this is the work of the Israelis who want to tarnish the image of Muslims and are working alongside Russians who have their own agenda against the Muslims in Chechnya," said Abdullah.

An editorial in the Saudi English-language Arab News put some blame for the bloody end to the school siege on Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites), saying he couldn't afford to lose his "tough-man image." But it added that "the Chechens, with the choice of their targets, had put themselves in a position where no one would shed tears when the punishment came. They reached a new low when they chose toddlers as bargaining chips."

Heads of state from Egypt, Lebanon, Kuwait and Yemen offered their sympathy Friday to Russian officials and to the families of people caught up in the hostage drama. A prominent Muslim cleric also denounced it.

"What is the guilt of those children? Why should they be responsible for your conflict with the government?" Egypt's top Muslim cleric, Grand Sheik Mohammed Sayed Tantawi, was quoted as saying during a Friday sermon in Banha, 30 miles north of Cairo.

"You are taking Islam as a cover and it is a deceptive cover; those who carry out the kidnappings are criminals, not Muslims," Tantawi, who heads Al-Azhar University, the highest authority in the Sunni Islamic world, was quoted by Egypt's Middle East News agency as saying.


This is the first time in my memory that Muslins in general and Arabs in particular have been so critical of an act of terrorism. Without doubt this was a particularly henious act. It will possibly result in a backlash against both Islam and arabs, if it turns out to be ture that Arabs were among the militants.

I find a spark of hope, in such forthright condemnation of an act of terrorism. If religious and political leaders are begining to see terrorism as hurting Islam they have the ability to seriously weaken those organizations who recruit the bulk of their members from Islamic nations.

Terrorism will probably never cease, but it seems the tolerance of the entire world for such acts of senseless barbarity is wearing very thin.

It certainly is cause for hope that in coming years those who perpetrate such crimes in the name of Islam may find themselves faced with a moral delimma as mainstream muslims dispute the interpretations of the Koran that Fundamentalist fanatics preach.

-Colly
 
The Arabs are the new Jews.
I'd like you to explain what you mean by that comment. CV.

Colly: That is a great article.

Without doubt, those terrorist 'shoot themselves in the foot' each time.

Islam is put in disgrace by the rest of the world through a few irresponsible actions by mad fanatics.

America is also hated because of the actions of a very few.

Arabs and Americans should BOTH gain back the respect they deserve, by condemning the transgressors, by publically, and unreservedly denouncing them, and disowning them. In the case of religious zealots, leaders of their faith should publically excomunicate them. All efforts by all nations and creeds to bring the criminals to justice should be made.

If all do this, the suicide bomber's incentive, and hopes to attain Heaven by his actions is negated.

The attrocities our own troops and CIA are responsible for (and those of any other countries) - if not condoned/encouraged by their leaders - will also diminish rapidly.

Currently we have two main menaces in the world:

1/ Attrocities carried out in the name of religion (mostly Islam it seems.)

2/ Attrocities carried out in the name of capitalism (mostly by America it seems.)

The Islamic congregations can solve the religious one.

The American citizens can virtually eliminate the second one.

In the first instance, religious leaders can stand up and be counted. (The article indicates some now are.)

In the second instance it is up to us. ( We can start by ostracizing fanatical flag-wavers screaming "WOGS and Niggers go home.") Mostly, we need to educate the public into what our country/s are REALLY up to, and volumously show disapproval, by using our votes, and our united voices.
 
This is hopeful.

But the problem is that it's much easier to do evil. Especially when you think you're doing good as terrorists believe.

Also, it's going to require work on our part. We here in the West are going to have to learn to interact with Islam as equals, not inferiors.

This will be very difficult for us as we in the West believe we are the superiors in all things.
 
rgraham666 said:
Also, it's going to require work on our part. We here in the West are going to have to learn to interact with Islam as equals, not inferiors.

The problem with Islam is that it is rooted in the Qran, the Islamic holy book. The Qran is a collection of verses. Each verse contains the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, unless it is contradicted by a later verse. In the latter case, the later verse rules.

The Qran divides the world into two classes: Muslims and those yet to be converted. Those who cannot be converted are to be put to death.

How do you deal with Muslims as equals without converting to Islam yourself?

Incidently, if you do talk with an Imam, have him explain who are 'The sons of Shaitan, the forgotten of Allah!'
 
Good article Colly, thanks for postin it. Uh anybody,

"I have no doubt in my mind that this is the work of the Israelis who want to tarnish the image of Muslims and are working alongside Russians who have their own agenda against the Muslims in Chechnya," said Abdullah.

did I miss something? Israelis? WTF is this guy talking about there?
 
Lisa Denton said:
Good article Colly, thanks for postin it. Uh anybody,



did I miss something? Israelis? WTF is this guy talking about there?

It's standard for the religious leaders and politicos to blame everything on the Isrealies. The six day war, they Yom Kippur war, scurvy, pestilence, the sinking of the titanic, Hitler invading Poland, Attilla the hun, you name it, it was all engineered by Israel to make them look bad.

That's why this is so hopeful. Instead of silence or blaming someone, at least some religious leaders and politicians are facing the problem honestly and with candor.

To my knowledge, it's unprecedented.

-Colly
 
Colleen Thomas said:
Instead of silence or blaming someone, at least some religious leaders and politicians are facing the problem honestly and with candor.

To my knowledge, it's unprecedented.

-Colly

I must respectfully disagree, Colly. There have always been those, more religious leaders than politicans granted, who have denounced terrorism and castigated terrorists for their mutation of Islam. They just don't get the print because they don't sell news. Fringe elements will always get more ink than those who are rational.
 
Excellent article. It's good to finally see someone speak up against the terror within the arab world.
I was taught a few things many years ago. This was the basis of anti-terrorism training at that time and I feel it still applies today.
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.
If you want to understand your enemy, you must think like him.
Beslan has taken terrorism to the lowest forms. It's good to see other arabs finally speaking out. Personally, I don't think many will listen in their world. But it is a start.
 
minsue said:
I must respectfully disagree, Colly. There have always been those, more religious leaders than politicans granted, who have denounced terrorism and castigated terrorists for their mutation of Islam. They just don't get the print because they don't sell news. Fringe elements will always get more ink than those who are rational.

In this I can only go by what I have seen goosey. I do read as much as I can and try to get information from varried sources. I am however, only as well informed as I make myself and that's why I provide the caveat, to my knowledge :)

-Colly
 
Colleen Thomas said:
In this I can only go by what I have seen goosey. I do read as much as I can and try to get information from varried sources. I am however, only as well informed as I make myself and that's why I provide the caveat, to my knowledge :)

-Colly

And a good point you make. I only hear them because I read & listen to the very liberal press (other than my hometown paper). :D I'm sure there is much out there that I don't see and hear because of it.
 
Colleen Thomas said:
It's standard for the religious leaders and politicos to blame everything on the Isrealies. The six day war, they Yom Kippur war, scurvy, pestilence, the sinking of the titanic, Hitler invading Poland, Attilla the hun, you name it, it was all engineered by Israel to make them look bad.

Don't forget September 11th. Still a very popular theory in some parts of the world. If I recall, the straw poll figure in Egypt a month after was something like 85% agreeing that it might well have been an Israeli plot.

Because that, of course, makes complete sense.

Shanglan
 
Nice posting, Colly.

I agree with you that this is a very unusual step for these Islamic leaders, esp. clerics, to denounce self said 'jihadis.'

Another issue in these parts is that some clerics up to now, have said 'tut' 'tut' in public and in English, but nothing to their followers in Arabic.

A further issue, if you'll forgive my suspicions of *some*clerics: They are condemning something that had *very bad fall out, e.g., grabbing kids and killing them or letting them die. As one you quoted stated, kidnapping per se is acceptable, but not killing.

In short: For that person at least, the rule for Islamic activists is
"Don't do what will get you *terrible* press reviews."

If all this sound anti Islamic, yes I'm aware that the 'crusading' spirit, and the offing of religious enemies is not exactly unheard of, in Christianity, among other religions.

One last point: I think it's economic circumstances that permit the liberal views you quote. By the west NOT attending to the economic advancement of Arab and Muslim countries, they sow the seeds of extreme views-- partly in the dispossessed, partly in the middle to upper class idealists. (As was the case with communism.)
 
Colleen Thomas said:
It's standard for the religious leaders and politicos to blame everything on the Isrealies. The six day war, they Yom Kippur war, scurvy, pestilence, the sinking of the titanic, Hitler invading Poland, Attilla the hun, you name it, it was all engineered by Israel to make them look bad.

That's why this is so hopeful. Instead of silence or blaming someone, at least some religious leaders and politicians are facing the problem honestly and with candor.

To my knowledge, it's unprecedented.

-Colly

Hi Colly, uh, I was all trying to stay serious and all cause its a serious thread and all. But I just couldn't resist, I am bad, but its your fault----the Isrealis are responsible for sinking the titanic? All this time I thought it was a iceberg. ------ RFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
 
Colleen Thomas said:
It's standard for the religious leaders and politicos to blame everything on the Isrealies. The six day war, they Yom Kippur war, scurvy, pestilence, the sinking of the titanic, Hitler invading Poland, Attilla the hun, you name it, it was all engineered by Israel to make them look bad.

That's why this is so hopeful. Instead of silence or blaming someone, at least some religious leaders and politicians are facing the problem honestly and with candor.

To my knowledge, it's unprecedented.

-Colly

(Gettin up off the floor) Back on subject--- Yes, I agree its unprecedented and refreshingly hopeful that some religious leaders and politicos are able to face the problem with honesty, its a very good first step.
 
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