A legal question...completely hypothetical, of course...

[Problem Child]

As most people have noticed, ALL of bratcat's post's have been removed by Laurel and manu, presumably at BC's request, and presumably to protect herself against having the information contained therein used by her husband against her in divorce court.

I am not absolutely sure this is the case, but let's just assume for the sake of this question that it is.

Question: Can Laurel and manu be held responsible for deleting this information? Could they be charged with destroying evidence?

 

[CoolidgEffect]

Hmmm. Lavender might know the answer.



Actually it seems she deleted her posts manually. They all have the last edited by Lavender ...

 

[SilvaTungDevil]

This happened to me once. I just flushed my computer down the toilet. Luckily for me, my john is built to handle large volumes.

 

[Guest]

 

[Purrde Flower]

haha. This is too funny. Seriously it is.

 

[sexy-girl]

isn't it more likely that she herself edited them .... i doubt laurel or manu would have the time to do that for everyone that requested it

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

It's her site and she can make everyone's post turn into grape jelly if she wants. I suppose it would be different if a judge found legal justification to supeona (spelling?) the info, but Laurel would have to be informed of that decision first. Laurel cannot be expected to assume anything printed here will be needed one day by the courts.

 

[lovetoread]

isn't it more likely that she herself edited them .... i doubt laurel or manu would have the time to do that for everyone that requested it

Over 14,000 posts?

 

[CoolidgEffect]

isn't it more likely that she herself edited them .... i doubt laurel or manu would have the time to do that for everyone that requested it

Check bratcat's posts and then check Lavender's posts.

How did bratcat edit her posts and not have the Last edited by *bratcat*on ...[\i]

 

[Problem Child]

haha. This is too funny. Seriously it is.

Why is that?

 

[sunstruck]

Laurel must have sexy, or Manu, else it would say "edited by lav..." you know the schpeil.

I was thinking she wouldn't be liable as it's not a criminal case, but she might be supeonable (lol I know that's not a word but you get my point) to answer for what was on them.

All in all it's a clusterfuck and I think it sucks.

 

[Guest]

No, Divorce is not a criminal matter, also internet laws vary widely from state to state and are somewhat diffucult to enforce.

 

[LadyG]

I believe on Brat's post, Estevie posted that Laurel had deleted them for her.

 

[sexy-girl]

Over 14,000 posts?

but as far as i know laurel doesn't have a magic way to edit a persons posts laurel has to do it just like you or i would do it

at least thats what i thought when laurel said about edited photos out of peoples posts but maybe thats different because shes only edited part of a post instead of the whole post

I believe on Brat's post, Estevie posted that Laurel had deleted them for her.

oh on that case im wrong then i wasn't about to say anyone was lying or anything just PC said he didn't know in the above post so i didn't realize estevie had said that

 

[Problem Child]

I'm glad so many lawyers have pitched in here.

 

[Rex1960]

Over 14,000 posts?

I don't think she's done it all by herself

 

[islandman]

I recalling reading somewhere that the contents of Literotica are the property of Literotica, even if a third-party adds to that content.

If this is true, then technically, Laurel and Manu own all our posts, giving them the freedom to add or delete as they see fit.

If this was a pay-for site, however, then they probably could be held accountable.

 

[Lancecastor]

Question: Can Laurel and manu be held responsible for deleting this information? Could they be charged with destroying evidence?

WAIVER: By posting a message on this bulletin board, you understand this is your exercising of free speech under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution - which governs this website. As such, any reply to you is also protected and you waive liability to Literotica for any discussion resulting from such a reply or thread. If you do not agree, then DO NOT POST .To post is an express waiver of liability to Literotica.com.

(emphasis added.)

As between Lit & a user, the Waiver likely protects the Owners of Lit.

I don't see Lit having any duty to an unknown third party in a potential civil action being a very likely outcome.

Presumably, server backups preserve the posts anyway for use if (successfully) required by a court of competant jusisdiction in a criminal matter.

Getting USA hosted server logs outside the USA or outside the state in which they are housed would presumably each be more difficult.

Just a guess; ask Siren & Lavvy, Attorneys @ Law for the definitive answer.

Oh yeah.....Siren & Lavvy closed shop.

 

[Problem Child]

but as far as i know laurel doesn't have a magic way to edit a persons posts laurel has to do it just like you or i would do it

at least thats what i thought when laurel said about edited photos out of peoples posts but maybe thats different because shes only edited part of a post instead of the whole post

sexy-girl, I like you, you know that. How can anyone but superman edit 17,000 posts overnight?

manu did it. Trust me on this one.

 

[CoolidgEffect]

but as far as i know laurel doesn't have a magic way to edit a persons posts laurel has to do it just like you or i would do it

That is what scripts are for.

 

[sexy-girl]

sexy-girl, I like you, you know that. How can anyone but superman edit 17,000 posts overnight?

manu did it. Trust me on this one.

you know i think theres a lesson to be learned here ... don't open my mouth when i don't know all/any of the facts


on the plus side i did edit my above post without it saying last edited by sexy-girl

 

[RawHumor]

on the plus side i did edit my above post without it saying last edited by sexy-girl

You have about a 5-minute window to edit your posts without getting that message, I think.

 

[Problem Child]

Re: Re: A legal question...completely hypothetical, of course...

As between Lit & a user, the Waiver likely protects the Owners of Lit.

I don't see Lit having any duty to an unknown third party in a potential civil action being a very likely outcome.

Presumably, server backups preserve the posts anyway for use if (successfully) required by a court of competant jusisdiction in a criminal matter.

Thanks Lance. I figured they probably had some backup in the slim chance that they get subpoenaed.

 

[CoolidgEffect]

you know i think theres a lesson to be learned here ... don't open my mouth when i don't know all/any of the facts


on the plus side i did edit my above post without it saying last edited by sexy-girl

I believe you have a 2 minute grace period before the "edited" note appears.

 

[sexy-girl]

so why has lavender had all her posts edited


is bratcat going to post on lit anymore ... is lavender