A Good News Thread. The Pecker Lives!

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Some say there's too little good news on this forum. Too little that human beings of all political parties can come together on.

Well, it appears that the ivory billed woodpecker lives!

For a picture of this beautiful bird, the second largest pecker in the world, see

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgu...blogspot.com/2005_10_01_tetricus_archive.html

The story (similar stories have appeared elsewhere).

Alive and pecking?

Ivory-billed woodpecker was believed extinct, but Canadian-U.S. team hopes to get photographic evidence it still lives

Sep. 26, 2006. 07:49 AM

PETER CALAMAI
SCIENCE WRITER
Toronto Star


Ivory-billed woodpeckers, believed extinct until recently, have been seen 14 separate times since May last year along a remote Florida panhandle river, a team of Canadian and U.S. bird researchers have announced.

One American researcher spotted two of the huge woodpeckers at the same time, strongly suggesting that a breeding population of Ivory-bills has managed to survive on the Choctawhatchee River even if wiped out elsewhere across North America and in Cuba.

Struggling on a shoestring budget and battling alligators and water moccasin snakes, the team also recorded hundreds of distinctive vocal calls and rapping used by the woodpeckers to communicate, found a score of recent tree-nesting cavities of the right size and identified dozens of the bird's unique chisel marks on bark.

"I think they're all up and down the river," said University of Windsor professor Dan Mennill, a 32-year-old biologist specializing in bird sounds and team co-leader.

Yet despite visiting the area regularly since last May and camping out there continuously for almost six months, the researchers from Windsor and from Auburn University in Alabama failed to photograph the magnificent bird.

The Ivory-billed woodpecker is not difficult for experienced birders to identify. Bigger than a crow, it is flamboyantly marked with a red crest, yellow eyes, a gleaming white bill and white feathers at the trailing edge of the wings.

"We need the kind of photograph that will convince people who are skeptical," said Mennill, who didn't see the bird himself during an eight-day visit to the area.

He explained that the team members paddling along the Choctawhatchee instinctively grabbed for binoculars rather than cameras when they spotted a likely bird.

The head of natural history at the Royal Ontario Museum, bird researcher Allan Baker, agreed that a photograph of the woodpecker is essential to remove all doubt.
 
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I was delighted by the news as well. It's a brilliant thing, to think that they might not be gone forever. As you say, Pure - there's too little good news in the world. It's good to celebrate what's there.
 
Oh there's plenty of good news.

Most people get up, get ready for their day, go through their day and then retire for the evening. And that's it. A pretty good thing by my standards.

But these events are very normal and we become inured to them.

And they don't appear on TV, so we forget how good we've got it.
 
thanks guys,


was beginning to think this thread laid an egg.

:rose:
 
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P., take a deep breath. Relax, or I will be forced to tickle you. You're alomost human, remember? ;)



P.S. The link didn't work for me.
 
urls

here are some links.

the picture you usually see is a colorized black and white photo.

but see also

http://www.arkive.org/species/GES/birds/Campephilus_principalis/GES008239.html?size=large

rare black and white photo

http://www.loe.org/shows/segments.htm?programID=05-P13-00030&segmentID=1

history of sightings of "The Grail Bird"
http://birding.about.com/od/birdswoodpeckers/a/timeibw.htm

The Grail Bird book on the ivory bill

http://about.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?isbn=061870941X&nrd=1&found=1&search=grail bird

last known photo, 1948, in Cuba,

you can google for "John V. Dennis" and woodpecker and Cuba

http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Auk/v0...h="John V Dennis Cuba woodpecker photograph"
 
I was lucky enough to see a pileated woodpecker here in Toronto.

I couldn't figure what it was at first because I thought, "Can't be a woodpecker. It's the size of a bleeding crow!"

The holes it was knocking in the trees convinced me otherwise.

Good thing they aren't that common, the trees couldn't take the abuse. ;)
 
rgraham666 said:
I was lucky enough to see a pileated woodpecker here in Toronto.

I couldn't figure what it was at first because I thought, "Can't be a woodpecker. It's the size of a bleeding crow!"

The holes it was knocking in the trees convinced me otherwise.

Good thing they aren't that common, the trees couldn't take the abuse. ;)

I saw an eagle, WAY close up, when I was at the rez. It was a spiritual moment, honestly.....almost holy.

I miss that place. :(
 
The softer side to you, Pure! So it's true, it exists. ;)

I can use some inspiring news tonight. Thanks for the piece.


cloudy said:
I saw an eagle, WAY close up, when I was at the rez. It was a spiritual moment, honestly.....almost holy.
How fortunate you are, Cloudy.

The only eagle I have ever seen was in a cage at a zoo. Such unspeakable cruelty.

We humans have a lot to answer for.
 
note on pileated woodpecker

hi rg,

jeez, i envy you. there are so few of the magnificent birds left outside of zoos.

i didn't know it at the time, but there is some controversy over certain pictures alleged to be of the ivory bill. apparently the two kinds of woodpeckers are easily confused (at least by me).

the pileated [word meaning 'crested'] is a magnificent bird, but not all that rare, apparently; seen throughout the East including the South. the IB is only in the South. see the distribution maps at

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/ivory/identifying/step1


from some views, they very similar. the ivory bill woodpecker is slightly bigger, with ivory bill and *white trailing edges of the wings. its call and its pecking rhythm differ.

here are a common sites that discuss these arcane matters.

diffs between ivory bill and pileated

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/ivory/identifying/step3

the debate over the film alleged to be of 'ivory bill'

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/March06/Woodpecker.response.kr.html

i would be happy to see either before i leave this planet!

:rose:
 
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cloudy said:
I saw an eagle, WAY close up, when I was at the rez. It was a spiritual moment, honestly.....almost holy.

I miss that place. :(

I saw a bald eagle fairly close up when I lived out West. It was the first real Spring day of the year. My read was he was up in the air for no other reason than it was a good day to be up in the air.

So I understand about the spiritual moment.

That previous winter, a Great Snowy Owl moved into the railway yard where I worked. It was a very cold winter and I figure he came down from the Arctic as he had no fear whatsoever of human beings. I walked to the base of telephone pole he was sitting on once and his only reaction was to look at me for a moment.

That was a wonderful moment as well.

From what I've seen, it would be hard to mistake a pileated and an ivory billed. Mostly it's the white in the wings. As I recall, there's very little white there on the pileated.

But that moment when I saw him was another wonderful moment in my life.
 
good news for rodent lovers too

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgu...=Laonastes+aenigmamus&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&sa=G

laotian creature resembling squirrel found last march

or google

Laonastes aenigmamus

===
longer list of rediscovered animals:

Lost and found
Some animals once thought to be extinct that have been rediscovered:


Black-footed ferret, believed extinct by 1978, rediscovered 1981 in Wyoming.

http://www.blackfootedferret.org/
--rarest mammal in north america
---

Coelacanth fish, thought extinct for 80 million years, first seen in 1938 off South Africa. -ugly, but very durable. has live babies

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgu...elacanth&start=3&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3

http://sacoast.uwc.ac.za/education/resources/fishyfacts/coelacanth.htm

Northern bald ibis rediscovered in Syria in 2002.

Giant Palouse earthworm , last seen in 1987, rediscovered 2006. Found along the Washington-Idaho border.

Laotian rock rat, believed extinct for 11 million years, first seen by a western scientist in 2005.

Chinese crested tern, thought extinct from 1937 to 2000.

Slater's skink, a type of lizard, rediscovered in 2004 in Australia.


New Zealand storm petrel, last seen in 19th century, rediscovered in 2003.

Long-legged warbler, last seen in 1894, rediscovered in Fiji in 2003.

Rusty-throated wren-babbler, not seen for 60 years, rediscovered in the Himalayas in 2004.

Takahe, a bird believed extinct for 50 years, rediscovered in 1948 in New Zealand.

North Pacific right whale, thought extinct until the mid- '90s. Lives in the waters around Alaska.

High Range dwarf cattle, rediscovered in India in 2004.

Asian grey whale, believed extinct since the turn of the century, rediscovered in 1973 near Russia's far east coast.

White-winged guan, believed extinct for 100 years, rediscovered in 1977 in Peru.

Southern white rhino, thought extinct throughout 19th century, rediscovered in South Africa in 1895.

Compiled by Rick Sznajder
Source: Wire services, Star files
 
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We have pileated in our yard every day.

The are magnificent.

I hope it's true about the IB.
 
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