A Fems Right to Phantasize

[angie girl]

All right I am new around here so if this is whacked out just ignore me. Or stone me. Whatever you guys do.

I hear it claimed that women have rape fantasies just like men. I hope this is somewhat true or I am the only fem in the world who has them. Don't get me wrong, they don't fill up my every waking moment, in fact they only rarely fill up any moment. But once in awhile a mood strikes me.

Well here's the deal I would love to hear you all "discuss". I have several questions about this but will juss present one to start. Maybe other people will bring up the others. If a fem fantasizes about being raped, is it possible for her to act it out for real? (and I ain't even bringing up whether guys could/should, they can and some do, and any guy that thinks any fem "really wants" to be raped should go buy a sheep). I would love some input.

[Edited by angie girl on 09-26-2000 at 06:52 AM]

 

[Expertise]

Hi Angie

You're not really unique. There are a number of women I know with that fantasy. It is one that I am not particularly comfortable in helping out with.

What interested me was yourassertion that men shared the fantasy. I have never heard any male in my circle express the desire to be the agressor in that type of fantasy.
Further to that, for a male to be raped would he not have to suffer insertion. Males can be raped by other males and even by women with impliments. But not in the sense (truly) that I feel you are suggesting.

Shit.... now that I think about it maybe it is possible. I'll consider this some more and get back to you.

Food for thought.

 

[Deborah]

Hello Angie. There have been a number of good threads about nonconsent stories on this board in the past. I'd go get some of them for you but the search function is turned off at the moment.

I wrote the nonconsent story "Hit & Run" for which I received the Best Nonconsent Story on Literotica for 1999. I have an even better one for this year which I have not submitted yet, entitled "Coffin Candy." You'll never guess what that one is about. Right, getting stiffed in a coffin, the ultimate nonconsent. Also I have written a story "Assignation" which you might say is the flip side of the coin. All these stories are true but in some cases I changed the names to protect the innocent.

This is just too strange, Angie. I was searching for a story I wrote under a pseudonym and stumbled by accident across a story "Deb and Me" by Panther. Listen to this ... "I went back to licking her and Deb starting fucking my ass again. When Angie seen Deb fucking my ass, she started to cum. She said she is gonna have to do that to her boyfriend."

I am highly suspicious that Expertise is actually this author Panther.

 

[Cherry]

Hoping you'll never find out ...

Angie,

If it happened to you in real life, you wouldn't be fantasizing about it.

Instead it would be the nightmare that you would repeatedly wake up screaming from, in a cold sweat.

It would change your very existence, probably for the rest of your life.

It isn't the handsome knight in shining armor who rapes women - it's a beast.

It isn't a sexual encounter - it's about control and hate.

There is no passion - only fear and pain.

Please don't put yourself in a position "to act it out for real" - you would be in for an unforgetable awakening.

 

[SeXy ReDHeD]

I think there is such a thing as consensual rape, like a role play kind of thing, and I think that might be okay on some level... is that what you mean, Angie?

 

[Guest]

Angie,

There is nothing wrong with you having a rape fantasy. Hell, I have one too. It is possible to act it out without it actually being a rape. There's something called role playing. (I recomend only role playing this one with a man you trust!) There are many scenarios that could be done. It just depends on what you want and what you and your man are comfortable with. If you have any other questions, feel free to post them there or mail me.

~Dr Tiggs~
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[Guest]

There is no such thing as consensual rape. Either you want it to happen or you don't. Rape means against your will, something YOU DO NOT WANT. There is no way you can want to be raped, hence the saying you can't rape the willing. And if you have discussed it before hand and are role playing, it isn't rape, it's make believe.

To fantasize about aggressive sex, controled sex, angry sex, is one thing, but none of those things even begin to describe rape. Cherry said it all when she said it is about hate and pain. That one minute, that one moment in your life becomes YOUR WHOLE LIFE. Past, present and future change from that minute forward. It changes every detail about who you are, how you act, and the decisions you will make forever. It breaks the person you are, and if your lucky, you can rebuild, but you will never and I mean never see life in the same way.

Writing a story, or role playing such a scene is far from having your dignity and life taken away from you, and I haven't even begin to tell you about the physical damage that can be done. I hope for your sake you never understand what I am trying to explain to you.

 

[Guest]

And if you have discussed it before hand and are role playing, it isn't rape, it's make believe.

Well, no shit. That's why it's a fantasy role-play. No one ever said that the desire for rough sex, or rape fantasy, was a DESIRE for an actual rape! And yes, the saying "You can't rape the willing" is true. Appearently you don't know enough about fantasy and role playing. ~sigh~


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[Cherry]

Tiggs,

I believe that both Euphoria and I were responding to the original post, where Angie asks " If a fem fantasizes about being raped, is it possible for her to act it out for real?"

You wrote: "No one ever said that the desire for rough sex, or rape fantasy, was a DESIRE for an actual rape!"

It may have been our misunderstanding, but I had visions of Angie pursuing a very harmful experience. The role playing option was first introduced further on in the thread by SexyRedhead.

You wrote: "Appearently you don't know enough about fantasy and role playing. ~sigh~"

Apparantly, our fantasies and role playing don't include being raped.

Btw, that was quite a leap into misjudgment of another writer's knowledge. I know Euphoria well, and I can assure you, her fantasies and role playing techniques are above criticism. (haha Eup! I stuck up for ya!)

 

[euphoria]

I know more than enough about fantasy and role playing but apparently you know nothing about rape or the lengths a woman may go to learn about her fantasy.

Did you read what Angie wrote in the first post? And I quote "act out for real"? It is more than possible that I and Cherry misunderstood what she meant by that, but where I live, REAL means REAL!!! It doesn't mean pretend. What I saw was a female who may have been about to put herself into a very dangerous situation which once out of control would have been RAPE in her REAL life.

And maybe you shouldn't jump to judgement of other's posts so quickly. I gather you missed the part where Angie invited others to "discuss" it.

 

[angie girl]

I knew I was in deepest doo doo the minute i started this, but that has never stopped me before. The inspiration, and I doubt anyone considers this foolishness inspired, actually came from a gf who might have too much time on her hands. She just wanted to think up an idea of how it could be done, not do it. Last I looked neither me nor she is walking around with a target on our ass.

Ok, sometimes doesn't it feel good to just get irritated and pissed off at someone and vent all that bad stuff! If so, you have me to thank for being an irritating maddening bitch. Any time.