A Deviant

temperanceless

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Hay, I have been talking with a Dom. He knows I started somewhere fairly vanilla. He tells me he is a "deviant", but will not explain. I want to know what that might mean. Could I get some help? I know some of the neighborhoods, but I want to know the names of the streets.
What neighborhood would someone without a lot of knowledge not know existed?
 
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IMO, someone who claims to be "deviant" but refuses to explain further, probably isn't.
 
*nods muchly*

Sounds like a game player with no playing pieces to me.

*chuckles*
 
temperanceless said:
I guess I should have explained that he will not share his MoST deviant kink.

Which is his right, and there are so many "most deviant" kinks out there, that I can't even begin to guess what it is.
 
Cutie, I like him. I really do not think that he is a poser. We have been talking for a couple of months. He has passed tests. We have had a couple of pretty kinky exchanges. Deviance of it IS a turn on. I think he doesn't want to scare me, because he knows I need to learn by feeling it and *ramp up* so to speak, to more intense bdsm. I don't fear, but I am smart enough to know that I need to be aware. Could you give me a couple of ideas what sort of stuff a guy who had experimented with the edge of deviance might have gotten into?
 
It's impossible to know. Some people's most deviant thought is actually tying up a partner and flogging him/her, or keeping a partner in a submissive/slave role 24/7. Some people's most deviant thought involves rape. Some people's most deviant thought involves breath play, or cutting, or vampireism. There are "out there" things like fire play, branding, kenneling, loaning out a Lover for a gang bang... some people view all those things as "deviant" and "edgy"; some people consider them to be a normal part of a consensual BDSM relationship. The laundry list of deviant behaviour is so big, and so personalized, that I'm afraid the only way you're going to find out what he means, is if he tells you.
 
Thanks for trying to help Cutie! I have been amazed at the journey my mind has been on since I gave myself permission to explore. I have been missing out! What was I thinking? While I think there are important drawbacks to cyber relationships, I am staggered at the power it has held to spark my imagination. We plan to meet soon, and I am crawling up the walls with anticipation. I have never so much as worn a blindfold.
 
temperanceless said:
Thanks for trying to help Cutie! I have been amazed at the journey my mind has been on since I gave myself permission to explore. I have been missing out! What was I thinking? While I think there are important drawbacks to cyber relationships, I am staggered at the power it has held to spark my imagination. We plan to meet soon, and I am crawling up the walls with anticipation. I have never so much as worn a blindfold.
Just make sure you discuss hard limits, negotiate what you're going to do and set up safe calls and other safety measures before you meet. Meet in a busy public place first and get a good feel for him in person before getting more intimate. I wouldn't play with someone who wanted to keep secrets about what they were into or didn't insist on me taking whatever measures I needed to feel safe and comfortable.

People--even those we have known for a long time in person--can be very dangerous, so do everything you can to protect yourself and watch for red flags like a hawk.

If you haven't looked at a comprehensive BDSM checklist yet, you might get an idea of some of the things people are into from that. I'm a fan of the second Play List in Excel format on this this kufs.org page because it's easy to update, share via email and change, but there are many good ones out there. It's a good idea to fill out a checklist separately, then compare answers and negotiate potential activities from there prior to play; I've even used the list as a tool to see how compatible I am with prospective partners before.
 
Skat and cold/hot lunches are the most deviant in my mind, because I dislike those fluids. It is a personal taste thing though.
 
LadyAria said:
Skat and cold/hot lunches are the most deviant in my mind, because I dislike those fluids. It is a personal taste thing though.
What are those?

Necrophilia and pedophilia, or anything that involves getting off on harming someone, are the epitome of deviance in my mind. Scat, human toilet, and many of the bodily fluid fetishes squick the hell out of me too though.
 
I like to be looked at nude even by step family. Is that sick? I also like older women to see my hard on especially nude.
 
SweetErika said:
What are those?

Necrophilia and pedophilia, or anything that involves getting off on harming someone, are the epitome of deviance in my mind. Scat, human toilet, and many of the bodily fluid fetishes squick the hell out of me too though.

Vomit. It makes things flex tighter then normal and extra squishy warm. It's a messy fetish.
 
The problem with the word 'deviant' is that definition is different for every person.
 
Has he given you any reason that he doesn't want to tell you what "deviant" is? I know I don't share my deepest, darkest fantasies with most people, either. There are some things I'm interested in that are pretty far outside the norm. Unless I'm really comfortable with someone, I prefer to keep them to myself rather than risk offending the other person or send him/her screaming into the night. On the other hand, I'm not going to subject a total newbie to my most twisted desires, either. ;)

Probably if you don't badger him about it (not saying that you are) and just continue to share fantasies and get to know each other better, it'll all come out in due time. :)
 
i really wouldn't be too worried about this as of yet. Scat, watersports, blood-play, vomit, cutting, etc..could all be considered pretty deviant. i am sure the more you get to know him, it will eventually come out.
 
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