A chapter of my story will have material not allowed by Literotica

[Joe Brolly]

...and I'm wondering how others have handled a similar situation.

To be more specific, an upcoming chapter will contain sexual activity between two people under 18, which, if I understand correctly, Literotica does not allow. I do not intend to change my story line or write a second version just to post on Literotica.

So, how have others handled this situation? My current thinking is to put an author's note at the end of the preceeding chapter and the beginning of the following chapter to the effect that "if you have missed a chapter of this story, a complete archive can be found on asstr.org." I figure this is fair, as asstr.org is not a competing for-profit story site. Thoughts?

JB

 

[Colleen Thomas]

...and I'm wondering how others have handled a similar situation.

To be more specific, an upcoming chapter will contain sexual activity between two people under 18, which, if I understand correctly, Literotica does not allow. I do not intend to change my story line or write a second version just to post on Literotica.

So, how have others handled this situation? My current thinking is to put an author's note at the end of the preceeding chapter and the beginning of the following chapter to the effect that "if you have missed a chapter of this story, a complete archive can be found on asstr.org." I figure this is fair, as asstr.org is not a competing for-profit story site. Thoughts?

JB

I don't think you are allowed to put other websites in your story, period. I don't think you are even allowed to put ficticious webadresses in a story.

When i have something that isn't allowed on lit, which is a rareity, i simply edit a version to fit the lit parameters. If you want to post here, you are vbound by their rules.

Perhaps a more acceptable authors note would be to say one chapter isn't avialable on lit because of content restrictions and if anyone wants to read the missing chapter they can pm you and you will give them free access to that chapter?

 

[AppleBiter]

Perhaps a more acceptable authors note would be to say one chapter isn't avialable on lit because of content restrictions and if anyone wants to read the missing chapter they can pm you and you will give them free access to that chapter?

Sounds like a good solution to me.

 

[CharleyH]

...and I'm wondering how others have handled a similar situation.

To be more specific, an upcoming chapter will contain sexual activity between two people under 18, which, if I understand correctly, Literotica does not allow. I do not intend to change my story line or write a second version just to post on Literotica.

So, how have others handled this situation? My current thinking is to put an author's note at the end of the preceeding chapter and the beginning of the following chapter to the effect that "if you have missed a chapter of this story, a complete archive can be found on asstr.org." I figure this is fair, as asstr.org is not a competing for-profit story site. Thoughts?

JB

Give it up on Lit We all do it but cant write it So ... c'est la vie.

 

[Sunnie]

I don't think you are allowed to put other websites in your story, period. I don't think you are even allowed to put ficticious webadresses in a story.

True -- my last chapter of Teacher's Pet was kicked back to me because I had an author's note saying that this was the last chapter that would go up on Lit, and the final chapters along with edited versions of the first 6 would be available in book form at Cafepress.com.

They didn't like that.

-oops, shameless self plug! -

 

[velvetpie]

When i have something that isn't allowed on lit, which is a rareity, i simply edit a version to fit the lit parameters. If you want to post here, you are vbound by their rules.

I agree. I've had a few that have been rejected for Lit publishing reasons and I just simply edited them. Voila! They got published. When we submit works to this site, we are well aware of the site restrictions and we have to abide by them if we want to have them published.

 

[Pure]

unofficially speaking--

it seems like the original proposal is not bad, if diplomatically phrased, since asstr is not a commercial site. Also one's bio might say that some of one's stories, or portions thereof, have ended up at asstr. That way the Lit story, end of last ch., could simply say, 'see my bio for information as to the following chapter.'

but as some others have suggested, a 'conforming' version is probably a piece of cake: I could probably make it so in 10 mins. (Change some numbers.)[Added: or, as said below, delete numbers, make things vague.]

 

[elsol]

It depends on your idea of conforming, Pure.

For some people and in some stories, it's easy.

I cant' do it that way though... the story always ring false to say 'eighteen' where it was written to say sixteen.

There is a difference between high school and college... so I dismantle the story and rebuild it in a different setting with 'new' problems... i.e. asshole dorm-mate versus busy-body parents.

My choices Joe are:

a) Dismantle the section or story and rebuild it around a different age group -- there are too many differences in my mind between sixteen and eighteen to leave everything else the same unless it's a 'quickie' character(s).

b) Don't post it on Literotica... I've made that choice, even with Lit's greater readership. It's not worth it to dismantle some stories (TOO much work) or it's simply not possible to maintain the thematic and basic plot elements with an older character. If you write a 'coming of age' story starting when the character is fourteen years old... it's nearly impossible to maintain story integrity by shifting the character to eighteen, he/she won't be very believable.

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[Willow Rain]

I'm not sure why you need a specific age mentioned anyway in your story? Try submitting without a specific age mentioned and see if they let it slide. They just might.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Brief mention of underaged sex is (usually) allowed. (Just not descriptive erotic content)

So if there is more to the chapter than just a sex scene, it might be expedient to mention the incident in passing or as a flashback or something similer. (assuming that the sex is too important to the plot or whatever to simply leave out) If it's a tell not show and the scene is not there to arouse, but mearly inform it is usually allowed. (For example, if you had a character who was raped at 14 and it made her distrustful of men and was therefore important to her character developement, you could explain this information, you just couldn't have a sex scene of a minor being raped)

People often misconstrue the lit rules to mean that everyone in a lit story must be a confirmed or assumed virgin until 18, but that is not the case. You just have to be careful with the intent and amount of the information you give. If you can sumerise the sex scene in a short paragraph in a narative rather than erotic way, there is a good chance that you're story (chapter) will clear.

And btw, in case anyone thinks I'm just throwing out my own ideas on this- I have seen stories with editor's choice "E"'s who have used this techniche- so I know that it wasn't a story that 'slipped by'

If the story is just an excuse to get people to go somewhere else so they can read about underaged sex, I don't think that will sit to well with lit. But if you have a valid reason for the scene and follow the above mentioned guidelines, you stand a decent chance of success in getting posted.

(PS- who wants to read a story that leads you to another site or to a book for sale just as you've gotten into it?- that's not what lit is about.)

 

[Joe Brolly]

Thanks, all, for your responses so far.

The upcoming chapter I mention will deal with a loss-of-virginity situation involving my main character. It will contain quite a bit of sexual interaction. Although I won’t be mentioning any specific ages in the chapter, it will take place in high school. (I happened to be 18 for part of my senior year in HS, but that’s just how it worked out due to when my birthday fell.) I can’t see tweaking it (i.e. rewriting it completely) so it occurs in college and still keep the story I want.

I think I will combine several suggestions and submit it as is, with a note to the moderator asking, if the chapter is refused, what they will allow me to include in the following chapter to let users know that the missing chapter is available.

Thanks again,
JB

 

[Dar~]

So long as you don't mention ages, Literotica has no problem with stories taking place in the senior year of high school. There are zillions of them on here.

 

[cantdog]

Like Charley says. Take it or leave it. I never saw this as an issue.

 

[Joe Brolly]

I think there might be a little bit of a misunderstanding, here. I am not criticizing Literotica for their content policies. They can certainly choose to set whatever policies they wish, and I appreciate the additional forum in which to present my stories.

However, I am not going to allow one story site's policies to dictate what I write. I figured I was not the only one who has experienced this issue, thus this post to ask how others have handled the situation. Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions.

 

[cantdog]

You can decide to keep the story as is, in search of a market. You can decide to write to the requirements of your market. Both are legitimate.

The workarounds suggested here to refer readers elsewhere for chapter twenty two or what have you are probably good, but I don't believe I would even consider splitting a story between sites like that. If the thing has so much integrity it can't be modified for lit, then it has enough integrity not to be dismembered and posted up on different portions of the fence in pieces.

 

[Joe Brolly]

You can decide to keep the story as is, in search of a market. You can decide to write to the requirements of your market. Both are legitimate.

The workarounds suggested here to refer readers elsewhere for chapter twenty two or what have you are probably good, but I don't believe I would even consider splitting a story between sites like that. If the thing has so much integrity it can't be modified for lit, then it has enough integrity not to be dismembered and posted up on different portions of the fence in pieces.

This would be true if Literotica was the only 'market', or even the only one among others that I post to, but neither is the case. All of my chapters are posted to several story sites. The chapter in question will be on the other sites, whether Lit allows it or not. As I say, I respect Literotica's guidelines. But I also want any interested readers to be able to read the chapter if they so choose, thus my request for suggestions from others who might have previously had a similar issue.

 

[CharleyH]

...and I'm wondering how others have handled a similar situation.

To be more specific, an upcoming chapter will contain sexual activity between two people under 18, which, if I understand correctly, Literotica does not allow. I do not intend to change my story line or write a second version just to post on Literotica.

So, how have others handled this situation? My current thinking is to put an author's note at the end of the preceeding chapter and the beginning of the following chapter to the effect that "if you have missed a chapter of this story, a complete archive can be found on asstr.org." I figure this is fair, as asstr.org is not a competing for-profit story site. Thoughts?

JB

Depends on the context I had this problem in SDC - some felt it not appropriate, others felt it impotant to the plot. Gratuitous? Not? It really depends, JoeB.

 

[sweetnpetite]

If it's senior year in HS and you don't mention age, it should be fine.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Thanks, all, for your responses so far.

The upcoming chapter I mention will deal with a loss-of-virginity situation involving my main character. It will contain quite a bit of sexual interaction. Although I won’t be mentioning any specific ages in the chapter, it will take place in high school. (I happened to be 18 for part of my senior year in HS, but that’s just how it worked out due to when my birthday fell.) I can’t see tweaking it (i.e. rewriting it completely) so it occurs in college and still keep the story I want.

I think I will combine several suggestions and submit it as is, with a note to the moderator asking, if the chapter is refused, what they will allow me to include in the following chapter to let users know that the missing chapter is available.

Thanks again,
JB

Highschool seniors or graduating seniors are assumed to be of age, since you start at 6 in the US, you should be 18 at graduation. If the characters are highschool seniors and you don't specifically metntion ages, the assumption of majority should cover you.