A better nonconsent ending?

[sophia jane]

Writing my first nonconsent story and I'm at the end, but I can't decide what to do- should she be properly fucked? or should you go away frustrated and wanting more? Which is a better (and more believable) ending? Up to this point she has serviced the needs of others, but has had no pleasure herself.

I just can't decide. Thoughts?

SJ

 

[Wildcard Ky]

If there's not some form of consent or enjoyment on her part, LIT won't post it.

 

[sophia jane]

If there's not some form of consent or enjoyment on her part, LIT won't post it.

I know! There is enjoyment. (don't worry). Just don't know if she should get to have sex or not. By pleasure I meant she hasn't had an orgasm.

SJ

 

[Dar~]

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Give the girl her due.

 

[lil_elvis]

If it's a single story and won't be continued, let her cum.

If you continue the story in another installment, don't let her come in part one, so then her frustration leads her to create a situation/scenario in part 2, where she is in control.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Writing my first nonconsent story and I'm at the end, but I can't decide what to do- should she be properly fucked? or should you go away frustrated and wanting more? Which is a better (and more believable) ending? Up to this point she has serviced the needs of others, but has had no pleasure herself.

I just can't decide. Thoughts?

SJ

The more "believeable" ending for an N/C is thatt he "victim" did not enjoy it. That's like saying the more believeable ending in most action adventures is the hero gets shot by the 70 divisions of bad guys he wipes out with his all purpose never needs reloading splatter gun.

The cat is basically about fantasy. In a fantasy you usually get your due. Readers expect it. Within that cat, I think you err to the side of people getting off rather than ering to the side of believeablity.

 

[MissLusty]

I think it's more realistic and in tune with the category if you don't let her come.

That being said if this story doesn't have a sequal, then it might be best to giver her an orgasm, otherwise theirs the danger of having readers unsatisfied, quote unquote, with your work.

Unless, the aim of this particular piece is to leave your readers with a bit of an edge.

Beware of leaving it with no climax, as troller's will surely be vengeful and leave low scores.

Sorry, I think I might have muddied the water even more, lol.

 

[Erlikkhan]

Writing my first nonconsent story and I'm at the end, but I can't decide what to do- should she be properly fucked? or should you go away frustrated and wanting more? Which is a better (and more believable) ending? Up to this point she has serviced the needs of others, but has had no pleasure herself.

I just can't decide. Thoughts?

SJ

I also just finished my first two non-consent stories. Recognizing this is fantasy and not reality, I had her enjoying the sex despite not wanting to and then regretting it afterwards. Based on comments received, apparently a lot of women have forced sex fanyasies.

Let her cum against her will and end the story with her in tears.

 

[Awful Arthur]

Writing my first nonconsent story and I'm at the end, but I can't decide what to do- should she be properly fucked? or should you go away frustrated and wanting more? Which is a better (and more believable) ending? Up to this point she has serviced the needs of others, but has had no pleasure herself.

I just can't decide. Thoughts?

SJ

If she doesn't come, Lit may reject your story, particularly if the rape is at all violent. It often happens.

If she doesn’t come, you will probably get lots of negative feedback. Readers like for the woman to enjoy the sex and come.

Frustrating your readers to demonstrate that your character was frustrated, may be a good writing technique, but it will go over your reader’s heads and ultimately cause you grief.

I once used a short sex scene to demonstrate the narcissism of the seducer but after almost a year of bitchy feedback, with no one getting the idea, I gave in and edited the story adding more sex.

AA

 

[shereads]

I agree with the theory that people who enjoy rape fantasies from the victim's persepctive find them erotic because the sex is free of guilt. There's a chance to broaden the experience of sex to include things the victim - and vicariously, the reader - would either be afraid to try or would be embarrassed to ask for.

To go through all that drama and not be rewarded with an orgasm would be exhausting and no fun at all.

On the other hand, few things are less erotic than a rape fantasy where the victim's responses simply aren't credible, even by fantasy standards. You know the ones I'm talking about. They used to be sent over to the Extreme department. One or more men target a vulnerable woman, commit violent rape, and she has multiple orgasms just because that's how the writer would like women to be.

So for me, I guess the answer is an obvious "Yes, let the poor woman come," and an unnecessary, "Make me believe it."

 

[dr_mabeuse]

For me, at least, the non-consent category is about extreme seduction, not rape. It's the heroine's transformation from victim to victor through the power of orgasm that I find erotic, not the fact that some poor girl has unpleasant things done to her against her will.

It's your story, and I know that there are some perversely moralistic authors who seem to enjoy punishing their women for any evidence of illicit sexual enjoyment, but I like happy endings. I'd have her come like a runaway freight train.

 

[wishfulthinking]

I'd have her come like a runaway freight train.

Lol!

This is fantasy, so don't hold to much to that believability crap. The believable ending would be that the victims takes or wants to take a knife to dangly bits! And those who do this are on good terms with the trolls. I'm not saying this is wrong, just not what most readers want.

As said above, a big part of the forced sex fantasy is having no choice, and being as slutty as can be without experiencing guilt. But there are different variations, and different ends of the spectrum
eg orgasm is another form of humiliation process
eg they didn't want to do it to start with, but now are really into it

But, if your story calls for an unhappy ending, be true to it.

Goodluck

 

[logophile]

If she doesn’t come, you will probably get lots of negative feedback. Readers like for the woman to enjoy the sex and come.

Frustrating your readers to demonstrate that your character was frustrated, may be a good writing technique, but it will go over your reader’s heads and ultimately cause you grief.

I once used a short sex scene to demonstrate the narcissism of the seducer but after almost a year of bitchy feedback, with no one getting the idea, I gave in and edited the story adding more sex.

AA

I have a masturbation story up right now that has never done well with the voters because the woman never comes. It was written to frustrate and it must work cause no one likes that story...

I'm not going to change the story though. She's not SUPPOSED to come. That's the point!

Good luck SJ. I don't know that I could ever write a reluctance story. I admire you for taking it on...

 

[carsonshepherd]

Good luck SJ. I don't know that I could ever write a reluctance story. I admire you for taking it on...

Me either. Big shiny red button for me, along with a big flashing sign saying "No way".

I liked your frustrated masturbation story L.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

With the possible exception of Non-Erotic, to achieve high scores, Lit stories need HEA endings. If not the Happy Ever After of romance novels, then Horny Ever After or maybe Humping Ever After.

If your protag gets no satisfaction physically, then she better gain some in another way. On the other hand, it this going to be your entry in the Earth Day contest and you want to compete for last place with some of the rest of us, submit a "realistic" non-consent in which the protag is left with a broken jaw, PTSD, maybe a few STD's and pregnant. You may set a record for all-time low score.

Rumple Foreskin

 

[shereads]

I'd have her come like a runaway freight train.

 

[shereads]

On the other hand, it this going to be your entry in the Earth Day contest and you want to compete for last place with some of the rest of us, submit a "realistic" non-consent in which the protag is left with a broken jaw, PTSD, maybe a few STD's and pregnant.

This post is a keeper, Rumple. You rule.

Maybe you and Zoot should collaborate on a non-consent story. Everyone comes, but then they're run over by a freight train.

 

[logophile]

Me either. Big shiny red button for me, along with a big flashing sign saying "No way".

I liked your frustrated masturbation story L.

Sure you did, cause it was pretty good. I mean it. I don't like a lot of what I write, but that one was open and raw and damned frustrating. But, because she never does come, it scores poorly. I knew it would when I entered it for the Valentine's contest. It was my anti-VDay story! All my friends hate that one too. Asked me to never show it to them again. Haha!

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

This post is a keeper, Rumple. You rule.

Maybe you and Zoot should collaborate on a non-consent story. Everyone comes, but then they're run over by a freight train.

Odds are we'd fight over who gets to be engineer on the choo-choo.


http://www.moeslocomotiveworks.com/photos/train5.jpg

Rumple "Casey Jones" Foreskin

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Odds are we'd fight over who gets to be engineer on the choo-choo.


http://www.moeslocomotiveworks.com/photos/train5.jpg

Rumple "Casey Jones" Foreskin

Odds are you would both find you were experts on locomotives and fight over what KIND of choo choo it was

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

Odds are you would both find you were experts on locomotives and fight over what KIND of choo choo it was

Maybe, but I bet being guy-type persons we'd agree it'd have to be a BIG and very POWERFUL locomotive.

Rumple "looking for a tunnel" Foreskin

 

[sophia jane]

Thanks all for the advice. I found a third option, which I am satisfied with, that lets her come without sex and sticks to the believability of the characters. I'm sure readers will hate it, but I like it.

SJ

 

[kendo1]

SJ, in all seriousness, think on this in relation to your story,
it worked for WS
To be, or not to be: that is the question: (To cum or not to?)
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?
To die: to sleep;
No more;
and by a sleep to say we end
The heartache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd.
To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub:
For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause.
There's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of dispriz'd love, the law's delay
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin?
who would fardels bear
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

who would fardels bear

Indeed. Who would?

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

. . . who would fardels bear. . .

I just LOVE baring my fardels.

Some grunting ands sweating can be fun, also.

By the way, (since we have taken a literary bent) why not have an artistic ending?

Write more than one ending.

First, she doesn't comes.

Then, she doesn't come.

Then, we learn that one of the endings was real, while the other was only a dream, but she doesn't know which was which, so we must decide.

What the heck, it worked for John Fowles in The French Lieutenant's Woman.