9/11/04 memento mori

amicus

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I was not planning to watch…but there it was on HBO when I went channel surfing.

There it was, all over again, the commercial aircraft with innocent passengers aboard, banking diagonally into the towers, first one then the other.

There it was again, the human bodies falling through the air…choosing to die in that manner rather than burn to death. I didn’t watch that before, I turned away…but this time I watched, all the way through. I don’t know why.

This was a new version to me, new videos, new stills, new interviews and perspectives; but the impact was the same; the pain and the rage returned as it was before.

One need not be religious to know that one must remember those whose lives were taken without cause; those young and old who ceased to be, some in a thankful instant, others in lingering torture. And so I watched and listened and thought, almost because I had to. It would feel wrong to change the channel and not continue the memorial.

Two things…at least…first to the people of New York City, who, now, three years later, are even stronger than before…and to the country as a whole which took the blow at many levels and fought back and recovered and set forth again.

I would have put money on a terror event occurring at the Olympics in Athens, or at the Democrat or Republican Conventions in Boston and New York. One cannot know if the security methods put in place following 9/11 prevented further attacks or if no attacks were even planned. One cannot know.

I do think…think…that Afghanistan and Iraq are but the first two chapters in a 30 year war.

I think…think…the attacks in Spain and Russia and Indonesia will multiply.

I would like to see a vast coalition of nations join in a clear statement to the Muslim world:

“Should any further attacks occur, they had best not be funded, organized or executed from your soil; for if they are proven to be, response will be swift, brutal and total.”

It is time for both the governments and the people of the middle-east to become proactive in the prevention of terrorism.

We will not live in fear of another attack within the American borders and those who might condone those attacks should know what our immediate response will be.

This little post, which took about 20 minutes to write is a small thing to do in memory of 9/11/01…but here on 9/11/04….three years later, is the best I can do.

Amicus Veritas
 
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Thank you, amicus.

I had a family member that worked in the twin towers.
 
I should wait until its 9/11 on this coast, but...oh well.

My mother is from New York (as if none of you could tell by how often I swear) as is her whole family. I found out about 9/11 in school and got home as fast as I could. Getting her to move from the couch was hard that day. My uncle became an alcoholic that day.

I didn't know anyone who died, nor was I there in New York that fateful day, but I saw the ripples as the talking heads babbled. There was emotion that day, raw unfettered emotion. Logic was absent, dead of a thousand angry bee stings, from humanity's stupidity. But emotion was there. Like the first time I fell in love or the times I feel the dark part of my mind try and take over. Except it was a hollow emotion, an empty raw true pain. That's what 9/11 meant. Pain. Pure unadulterated pain that we try to fix with bloodied swords and easy enemies.

Bush abused our pain on that day. Osama created that pain. And now on the reunion we rip off the scabs and share that fucking pain. That's what this day is. That's what it marks. Don't bother with the whiskey, you can't drown it. Or the sex, you can't fuck it out. All we can do, is feel it.

[END EMOTION]
 
Lucifer_Carroll said:
I should wait until its 9/11 on this coast, but...oh well.

My mother is from New York (as if none of you could tell by how often I swear) as is her whole family. I found out about 9/11 in school and got home as fast as I could. Getting her to move from the couch was hard that day. My uncle became an alcoholic that day.

I didn't know anyone who died, nor was I there in New York that fateful day, but I saw the ripples as the talking heads babbled. There was emotion that day, raw unfettered emotion. Logic was absent, dead of a thousand angry bee stings, from humanity's stupidity. But emotion was there. Like the first time I fell in love or the times I feel the dark part of my mind try and take over. Except it was a hollow emotion, an empty raw true pain. That's what 9/11 meant. Pain. Pure unadulterated pain that we try to fix with bloodied swords and easy enemies.

Bush abused our pain on that day. Osama created that pain. And now on the reunion we rip off the scabs and share that fucking pain. That's what this day is. That's what it marks. Don't bother with the whiskey, you can't drown it. Or the sex, you can't fuck it out. All we can do, is feel it.

[END EMOTION]

I've never seen it said better than that, Luc :rose:
 
It's so sad.

It's the 11/9 here and no mention of a memorial :(

That day touched the world.

Thoughts are with you guys.

:rose:
 
I didn't want to look at this thread, I passed it by.
Came back and read the words, didn't post, went on.
Back again, can't explain why. I don't slow down for accidents on the highway, looking for pain. Rubber-necking hoping to see blood.
Its a part of me, my life, my world. I wish it wasn't. This date in memory, locked in brain cell hell.

Amicus poured the coffee/reality.
Cloudy and Min, so simple and nice, added some sweetener.
Lucifer,with his truth of realities, poured whiskey on the open wound, with a deserved justice even I can see.
Boxofrocks comes along to remind me the world shook and tumbled through hell with my country that day.

I don't want to remember, but can't forget, shouldn't forget, will never forget.

It just seemed I should say something, not only for the lost and those who lost loved ones, my thoughts are of course with them.

Also today, my thoughts are with those who lost innocence, lost the happiness of never knowing that kind of evil and pain. Those like me. Hugs.
 
Not to say that anything that's been said or feelings exposed aren't true.

I'm just sad that anyone could contemplate killing other (innocent) people in revenge and wilfully put all the blame on a religion.

Haven't you had enough?

Gauche
 
Today shouldn't be about revenge. It shouldn't be about rage.

Today, more than any other should be about compassion. Compassion for those who had their lives cut short. Compassion for those who have to carry on in the face of such loss. Compassion for everyone, who was affected.

Depending upon your world view and politics, a discussion of blame could run for weeks. But trying to assign blame, or point out villians, simply underscores our differences. This day should be a symbol of what we all have in common. We are all human, and we almost all feel the loss of the victims and the pain of the surviors who must carry on.

The differences will be there tomorrow to argue about. This day should be for the sameness. For compassion, grief and eventually healing.

-Colly
 
Colleen Thomas said:
Today shouldn't be about revenge. It shouldn't be about rage.

Today, more than any other should be about compassion. Compassion for those who had their lives cut short. Compassion for those who have to carry on in the face of such loss. Compassion for everyone, who was affected.

Depending upon your world view and politics, a discussion of blame could run for weeks. But trying to assign blame, or point out villians, simply underscores our differences. This day should be a symbol of what we all have in common. We are all human, and we almost all feel the loss of the victims and the pain of the surviors who must carry on.

The differences will be there tomorrow to argue about. This day should be for the sameness. For compassion, grief and eventually healing.

-Colly

:rose:
 
amicus said:


“Should any further attacks occur, they had best not be funded, organized or executed from your soil; for if they are proven to be, response will be swift, brutal and total.”

Does this include the corporate America?
 
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I think a thread started in the tone this was started is the wrong place to mourn. It's out of respect for Colly and the families and friends of the dead three years ago today that I will refrain from answering in kind. :rose:
 
I will always remember that tragic day and I find it horrible that over here there was little remembering today. But I did. Yesterday night I watched this very moving documentation by those french brothers...chilling and tear-bringing.

Tonight i'll watch this movie that contains 11 9-minute-long short films by 11 directors.

I'll always remember what I did that day and I'll always remember what this day means for everyone of us. I'll rememeber the victims as well wish all the best to the lpeople left behind. May the souls of the dead rest in peace and those who lost somebody be able to ease their pain.

Snoopy
 
It's one of those events that everyone knows where they were and what they were doing when they heard the news -- like JFK's assassination for my parents' generation.

My husband left work and collected our kids from school. We just needed to be all at home, together.

A few weeks ago, I bought the 9/11 Commission report. I'm crying by page 11. A frickin' REPORT! Dry as toast. And I'm sobbing.

Some pain stays raw -- doesn't even scab over.
 
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