7 - Helleven

[jaF0]

At first, I thought it was a just a weird coincidence, but now it looks like most or all are connected.

Manhunt continues for gunman who killed 2 in wave of 7-Eleven holdups; victims identified​

CBS News|23 minutes ago
Police are searching for a gunman who killed two people and injured three others in a string of 7-Eleven store robberies in six Southern California cities.

 

[HisArpy]

Must be a gun-loving, bible-thumping, Trumper. Right?

 

[hushup]

At first, I thought it was a just a weird coincidence, but now it looks like most or all are connected.

Manhunt continues for gunman who killed 2 in wave of 7-Eleven holdups; victims identified​

CBS News|23 minutes ago
Police are searching for a gunman who killed two people and injured three others in a string of 7-Eleven store robberies in six Southern California cities.

they are your ELK

 

[dmonty]

Must be a gun-loving, bible-thumping, Trumper. Right?

You know when the suspects race isn't even mentioned (out of fear that it reinforces harmful stereotypes). The news described all the details about his clothing, hoodie even the logo on his hoodie and his "dark ski mask" but refuse to acknowledge the descriptive features that the suspect can't change.

If someone who did a crime is on the loose, then anything that might help apprehend him (most criminals are men) could be useful. That includes height, weight, presence of glasses, facial hair, clothing, and ethnicity. In fact, of all of these identifiers, ethnicity is the hardest to change if you’re fleeing the cops.

This is a repetitive issue, even happened in the recent NYC Subway mass shootings.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-race-of-the-brooklyn-subway-shooting-suspect




or this 2021 mass shooting incident.
The incident was the mass shooting in Austin Texas on Friday night, a shooting that injured 30 people, two critically. Here’s the first report (now archived) of two suspects on the loose from the Austin American-Statesman

Notice that this was published Saturday morning. At the bottom of the article, however, is this “editor’s note”:



But in fact the description isn’t too vague to help cops apprehend the suspect, or the public to identify him. Below is the bulletin issued yesterday morning by the Austin Police Department with the “vague description of the suspected shooter”


It’s not that vague, and says that one suspect is “described as a black male, with dread locks [sic], wearing a black shirt and a skinny build.” Surely this is of value in helping apprehend somebody. If someone is caught but doesn’t have dreadlocks, it would be easy to find out if he had them right before the shooting.

The paper clearly saw the police report, which came out the same day as the article above, and I strongly suspect that the paper didn’t describe the one suspect (not yet apprehended when the article came out) not because of vagueness, but because the suspect was an African-American. In fact, this is the reason because the newspaper says so: publication of the description “could be harmful in perpetuating stereotypes.”

When the suspect was arrested, a later report in the paper (curiously, with the same time of filing) still does not give details of who the suspect is (which is now less relevant except for those who keep track of race). But it has exactly the same disclaimer at the bottom! That makes even less sense.

While there’s no pressing need for a paper to describe someone who’s apprehended, I highly doubt that they’re withholding information because it could “perpetuate harmful stereotypes.” Instead, they’re withholding it because they think the paper will look racist if it identifies an apprehended suspect as an African American.

 

[HisArpy]

You know when the suspects race isn't even mentioned (out of fear that it reinforces harmful stereotypes). The news described all the details about his clothing, hoodie even the logo on his hoodie and his "dark ski mask" but refuse to acknowledge the descriptive features that the suspect can't change.

If someone who did a crime is on the loose, then anything that might help apprehend him (most criminals are men) could be useful. That includes height, weight, presence of glasses, facial hair, clothing, and ethnicity. In fact, of all of these identifiers, ethnicity is the hardest to change if you’re fleeing the cops.

This is a repetitive issue, even happened in the recent NYC Subway mass shootings.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-race-of-the-brooklyn-subway-shooting-suspect


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or this 2021 mass shooting incident.
The incident was the mass shooting in Austin Texas on Friday night, a shooting that injured 30 people, two critically. Here’s the first report (now archived) of two suspects on the loose from the Austin American-Statesman
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Notice that this was published Saturday morning. At the bottom of the article, however, is this “editor’s note”:



But in fact the description isn’t too vague to help cops apprehend the suspect, or the public to identify him. Below is the bulletin issued yesterday morning by the Austin Police Department with the “vague description of the suspected shooter”

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It’s not that vague, and says that one suspect is “described as a black male, with dread locks [sic], wearing a black shirt and a skinny build.” Surely this is of value in helping apprehend somebody. If someone is caught but doesn’t have dreadlocks, it would be easy to find out if he had them right before the shooting.

The paper clearly saw the police report, which came out the same day as the article above, and I strongly suspect that the paper didn’t describe the one suspect (not yet apprehended when the article came out) not because of vagueness, but because the suspect was an African-American. In fact, this is the reason because the newspaper says so: publication of the description “could be harmful in perpetuating stereotypes.”

When the suspect was arrested, a later report in the paper (curiously, with the same time of filing) still does not give details of who the suspect is (which is now less relevant except for those who keep track of race). But it has exactly the same disclaimer at the bottom! That makes even less sense.

While there’s no pressing need for a paper to describe someone who’s apprehended, I highly doubt that they’re withholding information because it could “perpetuate harmful stereotypes.” Instead, they’re withholding it because they think the paper will look racist if it identifies an apprehended suspect as an African American.

Well, you know those white deplorables are so hard to tell apart...

 

[ll74]

We must call out the race of the suspect even though we are literally posting the images of the suspect which show the race of the suspect.



Brilliant

 

[HisArpy]

We must call out the race of the suspect even though we are literally posting the images of the suspect which show the race of the suspect.



Brilliant

Apparently you've never heard of photoshop.

That on top of the fact that official police reports require that information, if known. You know why? Because written police reports don't include pictures taken from security cameras.

 

[jaF0]

You only see his eyes, but coupled with the clothes and time of day, there is enough for family or friends to recognize him.

 

[HisArpy]

You only see his eyes, but coupled with the clothes and time of day, there is enough for family or friends to recognize him.

I'm not saying he's Amish, but he's probably Amish. Because who else would be out and about creating all that hate and discontent during the day when normal folks is at work?

What the cops need to be doing is asking who stole his horse and buggy while he was inside "borrowing" all that stuff.

 

[ll74]

Apparently you've never heard of photoshop.

That on top of the fact that official police reports require that information, if known. You know why? Because written police reports don't include pictures taken from security cameras.

So you're saying that the news media photoshopped a release from the police department?

You're conflating two different things. Why do you really need race to be specifically called out in a news report which includes the picture from the police that clearly shows the suspect's race?

 

[HisArpy]

So you're saying that the news media photoshopped a release from the police department?

You're conflating two different things. Why do you really need race to be specifically called out in a news report which includes the picture from the police that clearly shows the suspect's race?

The total amount of stupid you display is astounding.

 

[dmonty]

So you're saying that the news media photoshopped a release from the police department?

You're conflating two different things. Why do you really need race to be specifically called out in a news report which includes the picture from the police that clearly shows the suspect's race?

It needs to be specific as to the description, when the suspect is at large and the police are looking for leads.

After the suspect is apprehended it has no further relevance, but to actively prevents its publishing while the police are asking for the publics help, only creates the possibility of more inaccurate/false hits.

So the news had a physical description of what he was wearing both in the pic and the police report down to the details of the graphic/text logo on his hoodie. The news put out a disclaimer that they won't use physical descriptions of race, because of racist stereotypes; and an actual description of the suspect of something that cannot be changed and could help keep the focus on the actual suspect; instead they give a description of his streetwear that can be easily changed and if someone only heard the news story (I for one often just have news on in the background, not really watching the video content) may no have an inaccurate description of the suspect and if I happen to go out shopping and noticed a hispanic/asian/caucasian wearing a hoodie, mask with a green text logo and I could unintentionally call the police and have the wrong person accosted or confronted by police (always a dangerous proposition, especially if one is innocent).

 

[ll74]

It needs to be specific as to the description, when the suspect is at large and the police are looking for leads

The media piece was specific....it had an actual picture and linked to the police report.

The news put out a disclaimer that they won't use physical descriptions of race, because of racist stereotypes;.

None of the pieces mentioned put out any disclaimer as you mention.

 

[dmonty]

The media piece was specific....it had an actual picture and linked to the police report.

and yet not everyone actually watches the news, many just listen.

 

[ll74]

and yet not everyone actually watches the news, many just listen.

It's a website.

 

[jaF0]

Locked him up-!!!

Suspect arrested in probe of deadly 7-Eleven shootings​

ABC|5 hours ago
Authorities say a suspect has been arrested in a series of deadly robberies at Southern California 7-Eleven convenience stores. convenience stores. Orange County district attorney's spokesperson Kimberly Edds says Friday there has been an arrest and there will be a late afternoon press conference.

Arrest made in string of deadly 7-Eleven shootings​

CBS News|4 hours ago
The arrest was announced by the Orange County District Attorney's Office, who withheld details ahead of a 5 p.m. news conference.

 

[jaF0]

Geeze, what a load of crap ......

"Santa Ana Police Chief David Valentin said detectives had been trailing the suspects “for a bit” but provided no other details other than technology played an important role in the identification of the suspects.

Law enforcement officials did not identify a motive for the killings, or specify Payne’s suspected role in the suspected crime spree.

Nor did officials say why they believe 7-Elevens were targeted, or why anyone was shot outside a store, such as a man in La Habra just sitting in his car nearby."

https://www.ocregister.com/2022/07/...ort-to-capture-suspect-in-7-eleven-shootings/