27 Sex Myths You Need to Stop Believing

[SlightlyGone]

There's no convenient divide like that. A bi could be more prone to straight arousal and activity than gay and identify as more straight but still feel a pull toward same-sex arousal/activity. There isn't a black-white cutoff point, regardless of whether or not some find that personally threatening. If you do, that's your own problem and definitions that only hold for you.

I don't think it's threatening at all where another man puts his penis, or where a woman sticks her tongue/digits and or strapon.

As a straight male, I feel I have a better grasp on the definition of straight rather than a man or women
who feels tendencies toward the same sex.

Bear in mind I'm not condemning anyone for their sexuality (be it reasonable) and me calling someone gay isn't an insult, it's what the person is: Gay. Sexual attraction (maybe even purely emotional attraction) to a person of the same sex. A little or a lot, doesn't matter, but unless you want to create a new category for the purely straight, then don't say you are a straight with tendencies.

Edit: This broad spectrum of individual sexuality has gotten a bit ridiculous. Pretty soon they'll have names for people who are attracted to anyone born on December 25 at 00:00 and 00:01, etc.

 

[BuckyDuckman]

I don't think it's threatening at all where another man puts his penis, or where a woman sticks her tongue/digits and or strapon.

As a straight male, I feel I have a better grasp on the definition of straight rather than a man or women who feels tendencies toward the same sex.

Bear in mind I'm not condemning anyone for their sexuality (be it reasonable) and me calling someone gay isn't an insult, it's what the person is: Gay. Sexual attraction (maybe even purely emotional attraction) to a person of the same sex. A little or a lot, doesn't matter, but unless you want to create a new category for the purely straight, then don't say you are a straight with tendencies.

Edit: This broad spectrum of individual sexuality has gotten a bit ridiculous. Pretty soon they'll have names for people who are attracted to anyone born on December 25 at 00:00 and 00:01, etc.

You come across as a narrow-minded absolutist. Personally, I find it fascinating. It reminds me of the old "one-drop" test for deciding someone's racial classification. (". . .a social and legal principle of racial classification that was historically prominent in the United States asserting that any person with even one ancestor of sub-Saharan-African ancestry. . ." - source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule)

So, if you're willing, let's play this out.

* Bob and Tim are inexperienced eighteen-year-old college roommates. One night, they are drinking and watching straight porn together. They jerk-off together. They don't look at each other doing it. They keep their hands to themselves. They just do it at the same time, in the same room. Gay or not gay?

* Bob and Tim from above are doing the same thing, but Bob keeps looking at Tim's technique and feels a bit of a thrill seeing Tim looking as hard as the porn star fucking that pretty chick on-screen. Gay or not gay?

* Same Bob and Tim, same situation, but being drunk and silly, they get into a laser sword fight with their hard pricks. Swords are definitely crossed. It doesn't lead to an orgasm. Gay or not gay?

* Same Bob and Tim, same drunken situation, except they actually go so far as to help each other. They don't anything more than give the other guy's prick a few tugs. They never do it again. They never talk about it. Gay or not gay?

* Gary is in a monogamous, heterosexual relationship. Amber, his wife, reads a story about massaging a man's prostate. Eager to please her husband, she goes down on him and uses a finger on his back side, resulting in the most glorious orgasm Gary has ever experienced. Is Gary now gay because he enjoyed anal stimulation from his wife?

I'm genuinely curious about your answers.

 

[SlightlyGone]

You come across as a narrow-minded absolutist.

I prefer the term pragmatic. A simplified solution to an uncomplicated problem by people screaming, "look at me, look at me, look at me."

Answering as a straight male and I can't help feeling attacked by saying, 'straight male.'

Edit: There were questions.

1. Gay. I may watch porn with people, but I'd never whip it out and jerk the fucker.

2. Gay. Watching a man jerk off while jerking off is a bit gay.

3. Gay.

4. Not gay. Sexual exploration vs being turned on by the same sex is two different things. Gay isn't the act between two people, it's who the person is.

What I find as strange is the need to 'defend being gay' ... I have said nothing out of anger or hate, just classification.
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[sr71plt]

As a straight male, I feel I have a better grasp on the definition of straight rather than a man or women

Who better than a bi male or woman to know this? Beyond that I don't see why you think it's your place to make these definitions--other than some sort of fear of or insecurity about something, of course.

 

[SlightlyGone]

Who better than a bi male or woman to know this? Beyond that I don't see why you think it's your place to make these definitions--other than some sort of fear of or insecurity about something, of course.

I have every right based on the fact the gay community has decided what they say is the standard.

The truth is, none of us give a shit (the majority) sign holders and idiots make news, but no one cares, we have our own life to live.

Why say it on here (with my own life to live?) ... because I chose to make this site a part of my life and the numbers are very small compared to .... whatever.

I'm defining straight .... I don't give a shit really, but what I do care about is definitions. Accept who you are. Being 'straight' is pure clarity. There is only one way to be straight. Simplicity.

But then again sr7, your imagination doesn't allow you to 'get it.'

 

[BuckyDuckman]

I prefer the term pragmatic. A simplified solution to an uncomplicated problem by people screaming, "look at me, look at me, look at me."

Answering as a straight male and I can't help feeling attacked by saying, 'straight male.'

Edit: There were questions.

1. Gay. I may watch porn with people, but I'd never whip it out and jerk the fucker.

2. Gay. Watching a man jerk off while jerking off is a bit gay.

3. Gay.

4. Not gay. Sexual exploration vs being turned on by the same sex is two different things. Gay isn't the act between two people, it's who the person is.

What I find as strange is the need to 'defend being gay' ... I have said nothing out of anger or hate, just classification.
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Thanks, SlightlyGone. I'm sure you would prefer being called pragmatic rather than my suggestion of being narrow-minded. You're as entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to disagree with it. That's the magic of opinions, they're like assholes, everyone has one.

Your classification still smacks strongly of the "old-drop" rule for classifying race.

If you would indulge me, I have a follow-up question. Once someone has done something you would consider a gay act, does that make them forever gay based on your system? For the sake of discussion, I'll accept your characterizations of the first three examples I gave as being gay. (For the record, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, merely exploring your premise.)

So, Bob and Tim did something gay, whether is was jerking off in the same room, reenacting Star War with their meat swords, or actually touching. Are they now forever gay? Is there redemption for them? Are they "allowed" to present themselves as heterosexual to other people, are are they obligated to accept their gayness?

Again, inquiring minds are curious. Thank you in advance for your answer.

 

[sr71plt]

YOU seem to give a shit about it, Slightly . . . and to be quite defensive about it as well. You keep plugging away on the topic.

I repeat, though, that it would seem obvious that a bi would have the best feel for both sides of the continuum, having a foot in each world, than either a wholly straight or gay would, and you've given no evidence on why straights would be all knowing about this in comparison with anyone else.

 

[SlightlyGone]

since we are answering each other, then I guess we both feel for this topic.

A bisexual is not straight.

 

[SlightlyGone]

Thanks, SlightlyGone. I'm sure you would prefer being called pragmatic rather than my suggestion of being narrow-minded. You're as entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to disagree with it. That's the magic of opinions, they're like assholes, everyone has one.

You went out of your way to be insulting. Hope you're proud of that.

Edit: My answers were predictable because that's how your questions were made. Doesn't make them wrong. Doesn't prove but one thing: There is straight and everything else. I don't understand what we are arguing about. There is 'straight' and there is not straight.

Edit: Are they gay forever? A man kills someone running a red light? Did they kill someone forever?

 

[BuckyDuckman]

You went out of your way to be insulting. Hope you're proud of that.

Actually, I'm going out of my way to be straight forward with my opinion about your views while NOT being insulting. As I stated earlier, I'm genuinely fascinated to learn more about your designations.

I understand a straight person is a straight person is a straight person. I threw you a zinger as a test by including anal play between a man and a woman inside a monogamous, heterosexual relationship. Many would suggest that any man who received any kind of anal play was committing a gay act. You apparently do not share that opinion, but I would know if I didn't ask, would I?

I don't believe suggesting your view may be better classified as narrow-minded rather than pragmatic is insulting, just an opinion. Please feel free to correct me.

 

[SlightlyGone]

So, Bob and Tim did something gay, whether is was jerking off in the same room, reenacting Star War with their meat swords, or actually touching. Are they now forever gay? Is there redemption for them?

Redemption?

What do you have against gays?

 

[sr71plt]

since we are answering each other, then I guess we both feel for this topic.

A bisexual is not straight.

Yep, I think you are sweating under your collar about something. Maybe a counselor or just go with the flow and let yourself enjoy opportunities(?)

I can tell you that a bi doesn't have to agonize over this like you're doing.

 

[BuckyDuckman]

You went out of your way to be insulting. Hope you're proud of that.

Edit: My answers were predictable because that's how your questions were made. Doesn't make them wrong. Doesn't prove but one thing: There is straight and everything else. I don't understand what we are arguing about. There is 'straight' and there is not straight.

Edit: Are they gay forever? A man kills someone running a red light? Did they kill someone forever?

I believe you're allowing your other discussion to shade the discussion we're having.

Meanwhile, if I understand the view you would like to describe as pragmatic, then once someone has committed a gay act, they should no longer present themselves to the world as straight. That's certainly black and white. Based on my understanding of your view - you either are or you ain't. End of story. No further discussion needed.

I find that opinion fascinating. Thank you.

 

[SlightlyGone]

Yep, I think you are sweating under your collar about something. Maybe a counselor or just go with the flow and let yourself enjoy opportunities(?)

I can tell you that a bi doesn't have to agonize over this like you're doing.

When your opponent resolves to insults and jabs, the argument has been won.

 

[sr71plt]

When your opponent resolves to insults and jabs, the argument has been won.

As far as I'm concerned you were being insulting from the start. Perhaps we should take a vote here on that.

 

[SlightlyGone]

I think you're confused about what "gay" means.

Gay had a specific meaning that has evolved over time. If you cannot understand how it is being used, then you are no use in a conversation. Selective understanding solves nothing.

 

[SlightlyGone]

As far as I'm concerned you were being insulting from the start. Perhaps we should take a vote here on that.

The only thing votes on a mass scale decide are elections.

 

[lovecraft68]

to the whole everyone has to be labeled argument coupled with the "I know more about gays and Bi's than you could ever know!' Touting.

Who cares what people do? care about what you do, its the only thing that matters.

 

[gwenrider]

Wow, I csn't agree with you
Some of these myths are so true, #26, for example...

 

[sr71plt]

The only thing votes on a mass scale decide are elections.

It's good to see that you have an inkling where the vote would go.

 

[BuckyDuckman]

. . . But in truth, there is either straight or gay (and whatever gay you are) ... all these sub classes of a simple way of life I find ridiculous.

Redemption?

What do you have against gays?

I have nothing against gay people. By your system, I must classify myself as gay. (Of course, my wife and three kids may feel very differently about that classification.) And thus we enter into my problem with your original statement, that all these "subclasses . . . [are] . . . ridiculous."

You choose to view that opinion as pragmatic. I choose to view it as unrealistic, overly simplistic, and a wholly inaccurate method for describing the continuum of human sexual expression. Pragmatism seeks to deal with things in a sensible, realistic way. I do not believe your system of classification is sensible or realistic.

I do find it interesting where you draw your lines. I sincerely doubt many will agree with you, but hey, if it works for you, what difference does it make?

Does every group need their own sign? I don't know. Depends on why you're grouping people together. Researchers look for similarities between groups of people who share traits, so they certainly feel a need for broader descriptions than your approach.

Anyway, thanks for giving me a peek behind the curtain. We won't agree on this, but I still wish you well.

 

[SlightlyGone]

I have nothing against gay people. By your system, I must classify myself as gay. (Of course, my wife and three kids may feel very differently about that classification.) And thus we enter into my problem with your original statement, that all these "subclasses . . . [are] . . . ridiculous."



Anyway, thanks for giving me a peek behind the curtain. We won't agree on this, but I still wish you well.

A gay male is perfectly capable of having a family. A gay male isn't straight though. By wishing me well, are you inferring that I wished you ill?

We are having a very simple conversation that defines straight and gay. Between you and SR ... guess where all hostilities have originated from?

 

[sr71plt]

I'm pretty sure you're the only one feeling the need to define straight and gay, Slightly. While you're doing it, I'm still waiting for your evidence on why a straight is better placed to define the breaking points than a bi or anyone else is. I think it obviously would be the bi, of anyone has to do it at all. The bi is the one who has a foot in both sides of the continuum.

 

[SlightlyGone]

I'm pretty sure you're the only one feeling the need to define straight and gay, Slightly. While you're doing it, I'm still waiting for your evidence on why a straight is better placed to define the breaking points than a bi or anyone else is. I think it obviously would be the bi, of anyone has to do it at all. The bi is the one who has a foot in both sides of the continuum.

Straight is straight. That's why they are best able to define what is straight.

A scuba diver may put on a tank, breath some air, but they couldn't tell you what it's like to be a fish (or if some ass wants to get technical - insert technical name a while ago).

I can only tell you what is to be straight and what makes a person straight, which makes me an expert. If I wanted to know what it's like to be homosexual, bisexual, whatever, I'd go to you.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

Straight is straight. That's why they are best able to define what is straight.

A scuba diver may put on a tank, breath some air, but they couldn't tell you what it's like to be a fish (or if some ass wants to get technical - insert technical name a while ago).

I can only tell you what is to be straight and what makes a person straight, which makes me an expert. If I wanted to know what it's like to be homosexual, bisexual, whatever, I'd go to you.

Gay is gay. That's why they are best able to define what is gay.

I can only tell you what is to be gay and what makes a person gay, which makes me an expert. If I wanted to know what it's like to be straight, bisexual, whatever, I'd go to you.



See what I did there? Who are you to say that "straight" is the standard by which all sexuality is defined? It's as if you think homosexuality is some new concept like cellular phones.

No, you're just another saying, "I'm all for equality, but I want my special treatment too." That's not how things work.

For the record, the only person I found to be insulting others is you. Pilot and Bucky challenging your opinion does not equate to insults. You, however, are acting as if they called you an asshole, feeling "offended" because they don't agree with you.