2 White Guys! Too Risky?

[shereads]

Say what you will about us Democrats, at least our ticket will bring diversity to the presidential campaign.

One tall-hair, one medium-tall hair. Risky? Of course. But if America can finally elect 2 white guys, people of both political parties will have something to feel good about. Especially you white guys! Congratulations!

 

[rgraham666]

I vote for "Yeah? So what else is new?"

 

[Guest]

Say what you will about us Democrats, at least our ticket will bring diversity to the presidential campaign.

One tall-hair, one medium-tall hair. Risky? Of course. But if America can finally elect 2 white guys, people of both political parties will have something to feel good about. Especially you white guys! Congratulations!

Cool plot bunny! Cheers!

Lou

P.S. Either I'm losing touch with reality, or Sher has been taking too many Charley-pills reecently.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

How about that dead guy who beat Ashcroft? Is he available?

---dr.M.

 

[Liar]

Or Michael Moore's ficus?

 

[cheerful_deviant]

How about that dead guy who beat Ashcroft? Is he available?

---dr.M.

I think he's still doing the talk show circuit.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Micheal Jackson is a white guy....oops sorry, he's a white woman...never mind.

 

[shereads]

How about that dead guy who beat Ashcroft? Is he available?

---dr.M.

Don't be crass. That "dead guy," as you call him, is a Lifesigns-Challenged American.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Don't be crass. That "dead guy," as you call him, is a Lifesigns-Challenged American.

So are most of the people that drive where I live.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

I think we might be onto something here by running a corpse for high office.

Or how about just a hairpiece? That's pretty much what people vote for anyhow, isn't it? "I don;t know what he stands for, but his hair says honesty and integrity to me!"

A hairpiece, tie, and a pair of shoes. I can just see him on Larry King now.

---Zoot

 

[cheerful_deviant]

A hairpiece, tie, and a pair of shoes. I can just see him on Larry King now.

---Zoot

Don't forget, he needs a really sharp suit too. Not so stuffy, but not flashy either. Prefreablly dark blue or maybe a nice dark grey.

 

[Shallkneel4u]

Somewhat academic who the Democrats ended up choosing for the Presidential Ticket, as many of us plan on voting for whoever it is just as long as Bush does not get four more years in the oval office...than man needs to be tarred and feather and ran out of town on a rail back to Crawford, Texas.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Totally a moot point who Kerry chooses as runing mate. There are practically no undecided voters left, and those who are will not likely be swayed by who he picks as VP.

-Colly

 

[shereads]

A hairpiece, tie, and a pair of shoes. I can just see him on Larry King now.

And the reason we'd notice the change would be...?

 

[sailorm72003]

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A hairpiece, tie, and a pair of shoes. I can just see him on Larry King now.

---Zoot

Oh, I'm sorry you missed that segment, he's an extremely articulate and well-informed invisible man.



Sailor

 

[shereads]

Totally a moot point who Kerry chooses as runing mate. There are practically no undecided voters left, and those who are will not likely be swayed by who he picks as VP.

-Colly

You have more faith in people than I do, Colly. If Kerry had chosen ABAWG*, we'd have learned how few actual liberals there really are in the USA.

(*Anything But Another White Guy)

I think we should market the ticket as John/John for the nostalgia factor.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

You have more faith in people than I do, Colly. If Kerry had chosen ABAWG*, we'd have learned how few actual liberals there really are in the USA.

(*Anything But Another White Guy)

I think we should market the ticket as John/John for the nostalgia factor.

Nah. Not faith in, but more of a cynical eye for. Had he chosen a minority or woman the GOP would have called it desperate pandering to try and get votes. Most minorities vote Dem anyway, and with Bush/Ashcroft infringing on everyone's rights its unlikely they will loose much of that core constituency.

Edwards was just the safe choice. Kerry could have picked Louis Farakahn and it wouldn't have hurt him significantly. Most people who plan to support Kerry are like you Sher, they can't forsee anyway in which anyone else could possibly fuck things up any worse than he has done and live in fear of another four years of Bush.

Personally, with the country so strongly divided, I think this is the first time in my memory where those who are anti-the incumbant are so virulently so, that even a radical departure wouldn't change thier minds about the evils of Bush. Kerry believes he can win, polls show he is close, he made the choice that offered the least chance of loosing support, rather than really trying to gain any.

That' an outsider's view anyway.

-Colly

 

[cheerful_deviant]

Nah. Not faith in, but more of a cynical eye for. Had he chosen a minority or woman the GOP would have called it desperate pandering to try and get votes. Most minorities vote Dem anyway, and with Bush/Ashcroft infringing on everyone's rights its unlikely they will loose much of that core constituency.

Edwards was just the safe choice. Kerry could have picked Louis Farakahn and it wouldn't have hurt him significantly. Most people who plan to support Kerry are like you Sher, they can't forsee anyway in which anyone else could possibly fuck things up any worse than he has done and live in fear of another four years of Bush.

Personally, with the country so strongly divided, I think this is the first time in my memory where those who are anti-the incumbant are so virulently so, that even a radical departure wouldn't change thier minds about the evils of Bush. Kerry believes he can win, polls show he is close, he made the choice that offered the least chance of loosing support, rather than really trying to gain any.

That' an outsider's view anyway.

-Colly

I think Colly nailed this one on the mark.

The race is very close and Kerry has chosen the safest road. While another white male will not draw anyone else into Kerry's camp it will most likely not force anyone else away. It's certianlly not the first choice of most women, blacks, hispanics or any other minority, but it isn't really a surprise and therefore has little chance of offending anyone.

As was already stated, Kerry already has the minority vote pretty much locked up, why risk loosing the supporters he already has to make what would be, in effect, grandstanding?

Not that I wouldn't want a woman or minority in the oval office. I personally would like to see the all white males club broken up. But everyone knows that the Vice-President's job is pretty much symbolic with very little power. So why risk the election on what would basicly be a gesture?

Just my humble opinion,

CD

 

[shereads]

But everyone knows that the Vice-President's job is pretty much symbolic with very little power.

If Dick Cheney finds out, there will be hell to pay.

 

[cheerful_deviant]

If Dick Cheney finds out, there will be hell to pay.

Maybe I should edit my post. Should say something like "VP has no real power, unless the prez is a life sized puppet."

Or maybe "the VP has no LEGAL power except to give mulit-million dollar contract to his former employer."

Better?

 

[Match Made In Heaven]

Totally a moot point who Kerry chooses as runing mate. There are practically no undecided voters left, and those who are will not likely be swayed by who he picks as VP.

-Colly

Exactly- so why not at least try to make a point, or break some ground by having the first latin american vp candidate or the second female? or the first like openly gay or something? the more times we see a woman (for example) actually running- the sooner we'll get used to the idea and actually vote one in.

 

[Shallkneel4u]

Exactly- so why not at least try to make a point, or break some ground by having the first latin american vp candidate or the second female? or the first like openly gay or something? the more times we see a woman (for example) actually running- the sooner we'll get used to the idea and actually vote one in.

The goal of many Americans in this Presidential Election is to see George Bush out of the Whitehouse at all costs. With that goal first and foremost in our minds, this is not the year to bring a novelty onto the ticket, and like it or not, a minority, a woman etc and so forth at this particular point in time would be exactly that to most American voters, and could LOSE ground. It's great to blaze the path into a new and more equitable future, but there is simply to much at stake in this election to be blazing new paths.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

The goal of many Americans in this Presidential Election is to see George Bush out of the Whitehouse at all costs. With that goal first and foremost in our minds, this is not the year to bring a novelty onto the ticket, and like it or not, a minority, a woman etc and so forth at this particular point in time would be exactly that to most American voters, and could LOSE ground. It's great to blaze the path into a new and more equitable future, but there is simply to much at stake in this election to be blazing new paths.

Yup, spot on.

But I'd still like to see a bizarre vp choice some day. I'm still waiting for punk rocker nihilist vp. I think that would be great.

ANCHORMAN: "What do you think of the future of the democrat party?"
VP: "There is no fucking future, man."

 

[shereads]

It's great to blaze the path into a new and more equitable future, but there is simply to much at stake in this election to be blazing new paths. [/B]

I have to agree.

Even if we were hosting a tea dance in the Middle East right now, the Supreme Court would remain one issue that's too important to risk. If Bush appoints the next justice, women and minorities stand to lose substantially more than we might gain from the presence of one of us in the administration.

Most likely, there will be two vacant seats after the next election, neither of them from the far-right end of the bench. Has there ever been a time in our history when all three branches of government were firmly on the side of a single point of view? That scares the hell out of me.

 

[shereads]

But I'd still like to see a bizarre vp choice some day. I'm still waiting for punk rocker nihilist vp. I think that would be great.

ANCHORMAN: "What do you think of the future of the democrat party?"
VP: "There is no fucking future, man."

As a campaign slogan, it has potential.

For some reason it makes me envision a new era in politics, when the newly powerful Nihilist Party (slogan: Who Gives a F**k?) begins to suffer from the effects of a divisive primary season, and falls victim to a vicious internal power-struggle. A fourth party will emerge, made up of populists and disillusioned Extreme Nihilists. Michael Moore will run as their candidate. Ralph Nader will publicly plead with Moore to drop out of the election, because his candidacy will take critical votes from the Anarchists.