120 votes in one day?!!

[Quiet_Cool]

A story suddenly appeared on the top list for group sex with 120 votes and a 4.81 rating. THe story was called "Introduction to Bi" and was written by authormk. It was posted on Sept. 25th. Today is the 26th. How does a first time writer get 120 votes in one day? Especially for their first story?

 

[Guest]

He had a lot of friends!!!!!

I've had stories get a lot of votes too. But admittedly never that many in one day. So....he's either got alot of friends, or access to a network of computers.......

To sleep.......perchance to dream - William Shakespear

I remain.........

 

[KatPurrs]

A thought...............

Have you seen the commercial, "The Power of Cheese"..........well maybe in this case it's:
"The Power of A Good Title". Must be alot of people (me included) who find bisexuality intriguing. As a bi friend of mine once said, "Why fuck half the world when you can fuck it all?"



Or, Thesandman is right about the network of computers! (He's just too sexy for his shorts, I mean......he's such a smarty pants. )

Kat ~

 

[RisiaSkye]

Devil's advocate...

There seems to have been a spike in voting lately. I had a story go up a couple of days ago and get over 50 votes in one day--and it's in Non-Consent, hardly the most popular category.

So, maybe everyone's finally remembering to vote.









Unless, of course, sandman's entirely right. Also a distinct possibility.

 

[Laurel]

Hi all!

It doesn't sound extremely out of the ordinary to me, for a story that has a good title and that has been viewed over 15,000 times since being posted. However, I am going to take a look at the vote logs and IP addresses and make sure that nothing looks out of the ordinary. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, and I'll let you know if I find anything suspicious.

 

[Riven___Caulfield]

The impact of a great title...

Now, maybe I'm alone on this, but there are tons of group stories, tons of lesbian and gay storiest etc. And I gotta' say - "introduction to bi"? It's not a great title. It's certainly not a bad title, but no title's gonna' earn its story 120 votes in a day.

Just my take on it.


-Riven

 

[Natalie Nessus]

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[abashed-dreamer]

popular story

Let's not be naive. People have hacked pentagon computers,
for heaven's sakes. For every measure there is a counter-measure. With all due respect, Laurel and Manu, there is no reason to think that the 'defenses' at literotica are impregnable.

abashed-dreamer
lfmn2x@hotmail.com

 

[abashed-dreamer]

Hi bearlee,

I read your piece. Yes we are all connected, point taken. And, in a sense, the US recently took a hit for all of us (in the West). Not surprisingly, the piece reflects your own perspective, e.g. lands drenched in American blood. Yes the US has defended 'freedom' but you shouldn't ignore others' contributions: look at the figures for losses in the fight against Hitler. I don't think that in strict numbers or in % of population killed on the battle field, the US is at the top of the list.

"Heroes" I would say, have been found everywhere, and the US has its share, but no monopoly. Now, you didn't say that, I grant, but the fact is you mentioned no other country's blood or heroes.

As to what makes a hero, besides your good points it's worth mentioning that most heroes are never heard of. It's an accident, in most cases, who comes into the public view, or gets their mug in the newspaper. Also heros are often not 'super' people outside their context; they often have human weaknesses and failings. So a general question might be, what, on a single occasion, makes a person
'rise to it'? The answer I've heard most, in interviews, is that
something needed to be done; the person was there and it was obvious what was required and he or she did it.

abashed-dreamer
lfmn2x@hotmail.com

 

[Laurel]

Re: popular story

Let's not be naive. People have hacked pentagon computers,
for heaven's sakes. For every measure there is a counter-measure. With all due respect, Laurel and Manu, there is no reason to think that the 'defenses' at literotica are impregnable.

I've been accused of many horrible, terrible, awful things on this board, but rarely naivete.

I couldn't agree with you more. There is no voting system on the Internet that is fraud-proof. If there was a perfect system, sites like eBay, Amazon, IMDB, and all of the other big hitters would have found it by now. All of the sites I mentioned - and any other site on the web that deals with user voting - can be manipulated if someone is determined enough. We do have systems in place to prevent obvious fraud, and to alert us to any obviously suspicious voting activity. We are also able to review the entire voting history of any submission if questions arise. That what we are in the process of doing now with the submission mentioned above.

This has been discussed at length here, but the most important thing to remember is that even in a perfect system - which does not exist - each vote represents a human being who is motivated as much by mood, associations, time of day, air pressure, and what he or she had for dinner, as he or she is by anything else. There is no such thing as an objective view of art.

The new Literotica member area that we have been testing for the last month or so will allow each author to choose whether they want to permit voting on each of their stories. If you do not want your work to be voted on by users, then you will have the option of opting out of the whole voting framework. This feature was developed with the input of authors who are passionate about having their work read, but who prefer not to be involved in the "contest" aspect of the publishing. Another upcoming improvement involves more accurate monitoring of votes from members who are logged in. There was another story top list, which was removed from public view some time ago because of technical issues, which only shows the votes of Literotica members, and not unregistered readers. One of the problem with this system is, of course, that less than 1% of Literotica visitors are logged in, registered members. We are always working on improving the site, and member feedback is the main catalyst in the evolution of Literotica.

One thing I would like to caution on is that we are careful not to make accusations against other authors simply because their story may or may not be popular with readers. Like the U.S. justice system, unless we can find relative proof of abuse, I tend to err on the side of trusting authors rather than distrusting them. I think it is fair for people to share their concerns about voting on specific stories with me personally, or even in public. I would only hope that it can be done in a civil and non-accusatory manner. I'm not saying anyone on this thread was unreasonable - I'm just making a general statement of my thoughts on this issue. I would hate to see any author get a bad reputation simply because their story was exceptionally popular.

As always, your feedback is what steers this team of horses...so let the comments fly!

 

[tigerjen]

not fair!

Not fair! How can a piece of writing get
that many votes in ONE day!? I still have some
pieces of writing that are still under 10 votes!
Not not fair at all!!!!

 

[abashed-dreamer]

Laurel, I appreciate your concern and thoughts.
Of course one cannot conclude an author is the "author" of misdeeds in the voting of his or her story. Someone wanting to test the system may well choose an author, arbitrarily. The author's admiring little 10-year-old-brother, hacker mastermind, may be doing it.

That said, in general, one can ask, after a misdeed, 'who benefits?'
In the case a story rises to the top, it's the author. In the case, also worth considering, where a story getting favorable marks, suddenly sinks, the benefiting party(ies) may be other rated authors.

In the case at hand, I am making no conclusions about the origins of the problem or the author and have not yet read the story.

Here's an idea. Are there not some patterns that are highly suspicious? I'm just guessing, but wouldn't it be rather unusual for a story to get, at 3 minute intervals, a series of 10 votes of "5"? Now of course there is a counter move; casting votes at odd intervals of 5 mins to 5 hrs. But note that then a person would have to be very dedicated, supposing s/he could figure out how, to cast a 100 votes; it would take days. In the present situation, if a person cracked the system, they presumably could cast 20 votes in an hour.

Here's a second idea: how likely is it that a person could log on, go directly to a story of 2 of your pages (= 15 ordinary pages) and within a few seconds, say 6, actually read the story and cast an informed vote? The measure being that a vote does not register unless, for a story of X pages, at least 3X minutes elapse from visting the story to voting on it. Again it's defeatable, but at a cost of time.
abashed-dreamer
lfmn2x@hotmail.com

 

[KatPurrs]

Tigerjen

It's not fair

Hi Fellow Feline,

Sometimes, life isn't...sad but true.

Now wanna come out and play? Maybe find a Tom or two?

Mrrrrraaaawrrrrrr!

KatPurrs

 

[tigerjen]

i know but.....

I know life sometimes isn't fair but I still smell a
fishy thing with that 120 votes for one story deal
in one day thing!

 

[tigerjen]

I just read the story.....

I just read the story.....its quite hot in my opinion.....

here's the link for viewing pleasure......

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=24699


Tigerjen

 

[abashed-dreamer]

Looking at some figures for top stories, I see a
new and very hot story, Sharing Rita

www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=24735

has gotten 70 votes in one day.
There are other examples. I conclude that it's possible that
Initiation to Bi--- which is quite hot, as TJ says--- could get 150 votes in two days.

abashed-dreamer
lfmn2x@hotmail.com

 

[Natalie Nessus]

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[Quiet_Cool]

Apologies if I offended anyone...

I meant no offense to anyone, the author of the story in question especially. I'm not intending any accusations...but seeing it appear so suddenly and gain votes so quickly was a shock. As most of you have probably noticed, it's one of the few above my own recently submitted story, which gained more votes than my first two attempts, but no where near as many and at a turtles pace in comparison. It seemed unreal that any story could gain such popularity so fast, nonetheless one froma new author, with no popularity base. No offense was intended, but the possibility that my own work was being undermined my unfair means had taken me aback. Apologies if necessary.

 

[bearlee]

Abashed-Dreamer

I was just reading about somebody getting 120 votes in one day and saw your message to me. You are right, I didn't say the U.S. had a monopoly on heroes, but please keep in mind when I wrote HEROES AMONG US it was regarding the aftermath of September 11th so of course I wrote about Americans. I agree with you heroes have human weaknesses and failings-we all do. I also agree you don't look at heroes in the number of people killed. You are right, this country is not number one in people being killed. In World War II, just as two examples, many people died in Russia and Germany, so many that our numbers pale in comparison, but I'm not sure what the point on that part was.

Heroes exist everywhere. We don't think of the mom or dad that goes to work each day as hero, but they are. No one stands and applauds the auto mechanic for fixing a car or the people that stock shelves at the grocery store, or the trucker transporting our needs, but without them we are lost(a little off subject now).

Heroic acts are by people found in circumstances which do cause fear, but they overcome it and do what needs to be done. I think the only messge of what I wrote is that there are many that have of late. "Never have so few done so much for so many." All I was doing was contemplating and wondering if I would have reacted the same way as so many others did. I may never know if I would have helped a person in a wheelchair down 60 or so flights of steps or continued to run to save myself. I know what I'd like to believe I'd do-but I can't know. If I've ever done anything heroic, it was one time in life when I thought I was saving my daughter and did so without regard to my own safety. Would I have done the same for someone I didn't know? I don't know the answer.

Thanks for the input. Always appreciated!

 

[knotty_dude]

I know it's not necessary nor is the author on trial but maybe "AuthorMK" would like to respond to the sudden popularity of his 1st story.

 

[Natalie Nessus]

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[Couture]

Look, a good portion of the people who read here are not that bright. I'm all for taking advantage of this and changing the name of my next story from The Haunting of Heather to

Heather is Humped by the Halloween Whores!

 

[Natalie Nessus]

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[Couture]

Hey, I don't mean that in a bad way or anything. I appreciate all the feedback I get, but there is a big difference between.

Hi Couture, I liked your story THE SMELL oF SEX. I enjoyed the character of Laura, I couldn't decide if I wanted to have her or be her. I would like to see you do so and so in the future.

Than this:
I liked yur story. Can you put Nicole Kidman in there. That wuld be relly Hot!

Nessus, take your story, THe Blue Raincoat. Just seeing it here with no story codes, I would have no idea it was one of the most brilliant FF stories here. The only way you have gotten around it, is by giving a simple point blank description, which I personally think limits you. Even with the description, I bet Lucious Lactating Lesbians has more reads.

 

[knotty_dude]

Look, a good portion of the people who read here are not that bright. I'm all for taking advantage of this and changing the name of my next story from The Haunting of Heather to

Heather is Humped by the Halloween Whores!

In response I'd like to say that there's a very good portion of writers out there who aren't exactly bright either. For example:

MY ENCOUNTER WITH MOM: I said mommy i like your boobies, mommy said oh you can suck 'em if ya like, I sucked & sucked then mommy sucked my prick and now we do it night & day.

There's too many stories like that out there, that's for damn sure!