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Master_Vassago has two stories (one of which is even in the "Tops" listing) that has MINOR CHILDREN in it!!! They are in the Celeb section and are about Mary Kate & Ashley Olsen who are 16 year olds!!

I can't believe people voted his "chapter two" story about minors into the "Tops"!!!
 
Well, first, in one story, he begins by stating it is the twins 18th birthday. The other he doesn't mention age at all. As far as I can tell. (Unless I don't have the right stories)

Besides, instead of posting this here, why not just simply PM Laurel and have her deal with it? By posting it here, it only feeds curiousity, and I would think if you were "outraged" you would not want curiousity-seekers to be looking up the stories in question. Also, as the writer didn't mention age in one of the stories, he very well may have meant it to take place in the future. By posting here, it would appear that you are attempting to smudge his name without letting Laurel deal with the potential problem in private. And if I were the writer in question, I would certainly appreciate the discretion.
 
Thanks for the defense SC. Well let Me first state that yes indeed this story is based around the future both chapters. I didn't think I would have to state in the second chapter that it was their eighteenth birthday again because it was CHAPTER 2.

In defense I have never heard of the rule that you can't change the age of a celeb to being older because it fits into your mind. So would the same apply if I made say Sean Connery 18 again for a story. Or if it had been the day before their actual 18th birthday.

I didn't mean to offend you bb. I just had an idea and went with it. In the story they are of legal consenting age. If it offended you I apologize. But I stand by the work and time I put into the story and will not back down unless Laurel deems them inappropriate.

Just My thoughts MV.
 
I want it pointed out where it says that you can't up a celebrities age. Then I will be fine with this. But be happy for the time being the stories were pulled. Although I object, I will handle that matter in private.

Just a side note Blessed, the first paragraph in Chapter one states that this is the 18th birthday. Would it have suited you more if I made it their 21st birthday?

This is not pandering to pedophiles or anything like that nor was it meant too. I did it age adjusted to not to meet criteria but because I am not as you so politely put it in pm. A sick fuck.

I hope you and I can come to an understanding about this. I personally have no ill feelings towards you prior or after this whole ordeal. I think perhaps just a misunderstanding is happening.

If you would like to suggest an alternate way to go about this I will gladly entertain it.
 
Well...

In defense I have never heard of the rule that you can't change the age of a celeb to being older because it fits into your mind.
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I think most people's minds the Olsen twins are cute little sixteen year olds.

So would the same apply if I made say Sean Connery 18 again for a story.
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Give me a break!

Or if it had been the day before their actual 18th birthday.
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You know the rules darlin'.

Just my thoughts,

Alex (fem).
 
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Alex, I honestly can't find that rule. But.... the Sean Connery thing was a stretch. I guess a better example would be someone like say a teenage male popstar that is 16 or seventeen and changing his age to his 18th birthday. How about off the top of My head the kid from Malcom in the Middle.

Like I said it has been pulled and Laurel will handle this. I guess I just jumped the gun right away and I didn't know there was a limitation on increasing age. But I guess there is somewhere here or Laurel wouldn't have pulled them.

It does state that the persons in your story must be 18. It doesn't say celebrities under the age may not be placed in the future. Oh well good evening to everyone I am done arguing My point.
 
SexyChele said:

Besides, instead of posting this here...
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Well, this is the Story Feedback board, so I posted it here. I figured this was what this board was for? Not everyone will post a "rave review", of course.

And, as I am sure you are aware, there have been many "age debates" at Lit. Over on the Story Ideas board, there have been tons. Many people agreed that when it came to real life people (IE: celebs) "upping" the age of minors should not be accepted at Lit since the celeb is still, in fact, under 18.
 
Never once did I say "not upping a celeb's age to 18" was a written rule at Lit. (But, then again, looking at the original submissions page there are many things that seem kinda outdated.)

On the Story Ideas board, several of Lit's authors, and some readers, agreed it would be "wrong" (and could get Laurel in trouble!) if people "upped" the age of a known minor aged celebrity. Do a search. There are several threads that bring up this topic. (Too many for me to link here.)
 
I looked over Literotica and I can't find any rules where the age of celebrities can't be changed to accommodate the age requirements. There is currently a series in the celebrity section regarding Harry Potter where the ages of the characters have all been changed to 18. I think everyone knows that the characters are under 15 currently, yet I think readers are able to make the age shift in their minds.

Anyway, if there is a rule on Lit about changing ages, I would appreciate it if some one could show me.
 
Many people agreed that when it came to real life people (IE: celebs) "upping" the age of minors should not be accepted at Lit since the celeb is still, in fact, under 18.
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I personally think this is just silly. Where do you draw the line with forcing an "excact" age? What if for example, I write a story about Marilyn Monroe? She's been dead for years so does that make her off-limits too?

I am not championing stories about minors, so don't even waste your breath trying to convince anybody that I am. I'm just saying that the whole point of the celeberity stroies is to be as unrealistic as possible. We change their personalities drasticly to fit our stories, why not their age?

If you don't like it, report it to the site administrators. If they do nothing, guess what? Don't read it if you don't like it.
 
Also getting "many" people to agree on anything is easy. If you ask enough people a question, "many" will respond as you wish. I'm sure if I asked enough people I could find "many" that believe Elvis is alive, or that the moon is a cube. You don't like the stories, that's well and good and you are of course fully entitled to that opinion.

But seriously the age rule gets BSed around all the time. What about all the stories set in high school? I don't know about you but I started when I was 16, graduated at 18. Am I really supposed to believe all these stories occured during the last couple of months in high school?
 
You started high school at 16, eh? Get held back in Jr. high? I was 14 when I was a freshman. :rolleyes:


Anyway, case closed. Things are done and dealt with. Fuck it.
 
Um, maybe high school starts at a different age where you live, but in Canada high school usually wouldn't start untill you are 15 or 16. And no, I was never held back. I'm going to try and pretend like you aren't just pouting that we all didn't jump on your bandwagon.

I responded to your criticism with what I felt were valid points. You responded by attemting, and failing I might add, to insult my intelligence, and then swearing for no reason. How mature.
 
SuperShyGuy said:

I'm going to try and pretend like you aren't just pouting that we all didn't jump on your bandwagon.
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I'm not. :)


I responded to your criticism with what I felt were valid points. You responded by attemting, and failing I might add, to insult my intelligence, and then swearing for no reason. How mature.
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lol
 
:) Allright, enough flaming for one night, I'm in to good a mood for this. Truce? :rose:
 
My personal feeling is that I can't make that shift in my mind. For the latest round of critics choice i have had to read two celeb stories, both including what I know as underage characters.

Ok so their ages have been changed in the story but I can't change it in my mind, maybe its just me but I can't make the age adjustment in my head. I found it hard to read both of the stories i mentioned and if i wasn't judging i'd have probably given up on them.

I am not saying its wrong to do this, we're authors we've got a certain amount of artistic license and i guess that includes bumping up celebrities ages. I jus wonder how many other people reading these stories have the same problem as me with not being able to change the image of a character from that that they see on TV.
 
OK BlessedBe I think you need to take up the issue of the Harry Potter stories with Laurel as well. I am not being childish here but these are child characters in a movie. I can't even read those stories, oh let Me say that I can't stand the whole Harry Potter thing anyway. But, I figured no harm no foul I will just choose to not read them. Perhaps though that should be rethought if My story was pulled because I made to characters older then why shouldn't those be pulled, and don't tell Me that it is a difference because these are ficticious characters.

I personally dont have a problem if someone wants to write these stories I just won't read them from the title alone. But as I stated if I had Mine pulled for such a reason then the rules should apply across the board, no if ands or buts about it.
 
Here's how I see it. The Olsen twins are real girls. The Harry Potter characters are fictional. Mary Kate and Ashley are alive. Marilyn is dead.

With all due respect to Master Vassago, whose work I have enjoyed in the past, I think that this was a bad call. It's just too far into the gray area of what I consider to be "right" and "responsible." I assume that adult celebrities can appropriately deal with this type of fan appreciation. I'm not sure that sixteen year old girls can do the same.

However, even though Hermione and the rest are fictional, they are still under age, aren't they? I never saw the appeal of these Harry Potter sex stories, but objectively, if MV's stories can't be posted, then these shouldn't either.
 
Real or fictional, there's nothing in Lit's policy that says you can place a story in the future of ficitional celebs but not for real ones. And it's not the author's problem if the reader cannot make a "shift." There is no "grey area." The point is that, if a story states that the characters are over 18, Lit policy is satisfied. To retroactively apply a different standard on a particular story because someone is "outraged," is pure hypocricy, pure BS.

hs
 
personnally i have nothing against reading stories with 16 year old characters, but it's against the rules here.

it's high school bullshit to think you can tweak the rules by changing the age of real life characters in order to write stories about them while their still underage.

there are other sites out there, why not just post there? save yourself the trouble.
 
Oh dear. Does this mean I shouldn't bother to write my story about Holden Caulfield... you know, one year later, when he turns 18?
 
pointless said:

it's high school bullshit to think you can tweak the rules by changing the age of real life characters in order to write stories about them while their still underage.

there are other sites out there, why not just post there? save yourself the trouble.
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Bingo.
 
DarlingNikki said:

Oh dear. Does this mean I shouldn't bother to write my story about Holden Caulfield... you know, one year later, when he turns 18?
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Who is Holden Caulfield and why do you want to write a sex story about a minor?
 
hiddenself said:
Real or fictional, there's nothing in Lit's policy that says you can place a story in the future of ficitional celebs but not for real ones. And it's not the author's problem if the reader cannot make a "shift." There is no "grey area." The point is that, if a story states that the characters are over 18, Lit policy is satisfied. To retroactively apply a different standard on a particular story because someone is "outraged," is pure hypocricy, pure BS.

hs
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Hi, hs. Just to clarify: as much as I wish I were, I'm not in charge of Lit's policy. So, when I spoke about a gray area, I was merely stating my own personal opinion and not the management's. :)

On another note, the fact of the matter is, no matter what the actual *rules state, this is a privately owned site. The owners can post whatever they damn well please. If they don't post your story, they're not obligated to give you a reason.

And for those of you revving up your free speech arguments, refusing to post your story isn't violating your right to free speech. Free speech guarantees you the right to speak (to write your story,) it does not obligate others to help you exercise that right (post that story.)


*And who knows how often the webmistress reviews and revises them!
 
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