A little bit chilling?

sophia jane said:

That is such bullshit.

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Colleen Thomas said:

Somebody needs to take a big-assed news paper, roll it up real tight and smack thses little bastards on the nose real hard.

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Pure said:

The government contends it needs the data to determine how often pornography shows up in online searches as part of an effort to revive an Internet child protection law that was struck down two years ago by the U.S. Supreme Court on free-speech grounds.

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Liar said:

And what will they find? That people Google for smut alot? Hell, my grandmother knows that.

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Colleen Thomas said:

They don't need to find anything. they just need to get google to fight them, so they can go back to court and hopefully have the law upheld this time since the balance in the USSC has changed.

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Colleen Thomas said:

They don't need to find anything. they just need to get google to fight them, so they can go back to court and hopefully have the law upheld this time since the balance in the USSC has changed.

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Norajane said:

Why, why, why is porn so damned important to the Bush administration?



Seriously, if this is what evangelists bring to the White House, I can't wait til we get a blowjob lovin' president again.

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Huckleman2000 said:

There's nobody that doesn't love a blowjob.

These people just have to hate themselves for it.

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Norajane said:

Why, why, why is porn so damned important to the Bush administration?

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Norajane said:

Seriously, if this is what evangelists bring to the White House, I can't wait til we get a blowjob lovin' president again.

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zeb1094 said:

A prediction from a nobody...

The USSC will refuse to hear the case due to it's already ruling on said case or similar case already.

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Norajane said:

Why, why, why is porn so damned important to the Bush administration?



Seriously, if this is what evangelists bring to the White House, I can't wait til we get a blowjob lovin' president again.

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shereads said:

Amen.

Hey, did you know Monica did the Altoids trick? I missed that detail, what with all the impeachment crap getting in the way. Having an Altoids mint in one's mouth is said to add an extra bit of zing to the oral tradition. QUOTE]
the altoids trick works, and if you combine it with a kush ball tounge ring it's a wonder lol
Back to the government though
Fuck you bush , you must need a blow job

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Roxanne Appleby said:

"Federal agents seized server computers . . . (that) yielded credit-card transactions from about 90,000 (child pornography) customers. Almost half were in the U.S., with others as far away as Italy, Hong Kong and New Zealand."

Not that I don't disagree with what's been said here, but be cautious about letting a simplistic view of the motivations behind these prosecutorial actions blind you to the genuine issue of child pornography, which is what gives power to these activities. If you don't acknowledge that problem, and instead appear to be just blindly attacking political enemies, then obviously you won't be very effective at making the case for liberty in the court of public opinion. That figure of 90,000 customers is sobering.


THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

Dangerous Mix: Internet Transforms Child Porn Into Lucrative Criminal Trade
Company in Belarus Collected Millions From Pedophiles;

By CASSELL BRYAN-LOW

January 17, 2006; Page A1

On a Saturday morning in October 2003, federal agents raided the apartment of Chicago pediatrician Howard Marc Watzman. They found two computers with more than 3,000 images of boys and girls as young as 4 years old being sexually exploited. Mr. Watzman was later sentenced to five years in prison for possessing child pornography.

The case is one of more than a thousand stemming from a broad international probe into a company called Regpay Co. in the former Soviet republic of Belarus. Regpay gathered lurid images and sold them to pedophiles around the world with the help of U.S. companies that collected credit-card payments.

Regpay offers a window into how the Internet has transformed what was once a cottage industry into a sophisticated business. The company is at the center of what U.S. law-enforcement officials call the largest Internet child-pornography investigation to date and the first to follow the international financial trail of child-porn sales. The probe has discovered the names of some 40,000 Americans who downloaded child porn and led to more than 1,400 arrests world-wide including about 330 in the U.S. At least three users arrested in the U.S. have committed suicide.

Some estimate the Internet child-pornography business could bring in billions of dollars annually. "It has now become a revenue generator for organized groups," says Ernest Allen, head of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, an Alexandria, Va., nonprofit.

U.S. and U.K. child-protection experts estimate that there are thousands of commercial Web sites containing child pornography and as many as 100 new ones pop up each month. They say the children being abused are becoming younger and include toddlers. The potential market is large: As many as one in 1,000 men has a sexual interest in children, estimates Hamish McCulloch, assistant director for trafficking in human beings at Interpol, the international police organization. The problem is less common in women, though not unknown.

In the 1980s, a broad crackdown in the U.S. and other countries largely choked off the flow of child pornography, forcing it out of its traditional niche of sex bookshops and into underground networks of collectors. When the Internet became widespread in the 1990s, it instantly proved popular with pedophiles. There was little risk of prosecution amid a lack of law-enforcement scrutiny.

Child-pornography Web sites draw "people who had never dreamed of indulging in the fantasy" by giving them the perception of anonymity, says Kevin Zuccato, director of the Australian federal police's high-tech crime center. Thanks to better Internet connections, Regpay's users were able to download millions of images in just one year, something that "simply wouldn't have been possible" 10 years ago, says Mr. Zuccato, whose team coordinated the arrests of Regpay customers in Australia.

The Internet emboldens consumers of child pornography to seek out increasingly graphic material. "I wanted to see more and more abusive pictures," says Chris, a technician for a leisure company, in a video interview used for training purposes by the Lucy Faithfull Foundation, a British child-protection charity.

In the video, Chris says he started off spending a few minutes a week searching for child porn on the Web. Soon he was spending as much time viewing images "as I humanly could," and he even recalls one 24-hour session. Chris served a three-year probationary sentence for possessing child pornography in a case unrelated to Regpay. The foundation made the video available on condition that his last name not be used.

At first it was mostly pedophiles themselves who distributed the images circulating on the Internet. But the industry's profit potential has increasingly attracted organized criminals who bring with them business and money-laundering skills.

Regpay's president was Yahor Zalatarou, a 27-year-old man with a talent for computers. The son of an engineer and a teacher, Mr. Zalatarou grew up in the Belarus capital of Minsk. He worked with Aliaksandr Boika, 31, who has a background in computer software, and Alexei Buchnev, 28, a translator. All three are now in jail.

U.S. law-enforcement agencies suspect that Mr. Zalatarou had connections to a larger criminal network and say their investigation is continuing. Robert Little, a New Jersey lawyer for Mr. Zalatarou, says there were "levels of hierarchy above him." Mr. Little adds that Mr. Zalatarou denies his bosses were "mafia-related."

The allegations against Regpay are detailed in indictments returned by a Newark, N.J., federal grand jury in December 2003 and October 2004.

At first the company was called Trustbill. It changed its name to Regpay after receiving two cease-and-desist notices from the Michigan attorney general's office in August and September 2002, according to an affidavit by Internal Revenue Service special agent Maria Reverendo attached to a July 2003 complaint against Messrs. Zalatarou and Boika.

Regpay processed payments for more than 50 third-party child-pornography sites, and ran at least five of its own with names like darkfeeling.com, lust-gallery.com and lolittles.com. "All girls are under 14," read the advertising blurb for the lolittles.com site, according to Ms. Reverendo's affidavit. Another site advertised "6,000 high-resolution professional images."

Explosion in Materials

The majority of images of child pornography come from the U.S. or Western Europe, law-enforcement officials say. Abusers typically are family members or someone else known to the victim. The advent of digital cameras and camcorders has fueled an explosion in the material available online. Because pedophiles often are willing to share their images at little or no cost by uploading them to the Internet, it is easy for third parties like Regpay to obtain and package content on their own sites.

Lawyers for Messrs. Zalatarou, Boika and Buchnev say their clients weren't involved in making child pornography. Some U.S. law-enforcement officials suspect links between Regpay and the producers of some images on its Web sites because Belarus authorities said they found a studio used to make pornographic pictures in the same building as Regpay's offices in Minsk. But U.S. authorities say they haven't recovered any child pornography from that studio.

Subscribers paid up to $75 per month to access Regpay's sites and the sites for which it handled payments, says Kevin O'Dowd, an assistant U.S. attorney in Newark and a lead prosecutor on the case. Regpay processed about $8 million in payments from June 2002 to June 2003 and pocketed more than 75% of that, according to U.S. authorities. They believe Mr. Zalatarou personally earned only about $20,000 to $50,000 a month, bolstering suspicions that he was part of a larger enterprise.

The key to Regpay's business was getting money from the credit cards of subscribers in the U.S., Europe and elsewhere into its own accounts, at least one of which was in Latvia, a former Soviet republic neighboring Belarus. Credit-card payments from many customers went first to a small Fort Lauderdale, Fla., company called Connections USA Inc. Connections, which had a legal business in online and telephone dating services, had signed up as a merchant in credit-card networks. Both Visa and MasterCard cooperated in the investigation.

Connections forwarded subscriber payments to a Regpay account in Latvia, according to the indictments. The money was transferred from a Morgan Stanley account -- apparently the business account for Connections -- to a Deutsche Bank AG account and from there to Aizkraukles Bank in Riga, Latvia, according to the IRS agent's affidavit.

Altogether Connections helped launder about $3 million from June 2002 through June 2003 in return for a commission of more than 11% on the funds transferred, according to the indictments.

No banks have been charged in the Regpay case. Financial institutions have a duty under U.S. law to know their customers and file reports if they detect suspicious activity, but how much a bank should investigate "is still very much a judgment call," says Karen Petrou, managing partner of Federal Financial Analytics Inc., a research and consulting firm in Washington.

The three banks declined to comment on whether they reported suspicious activity in this case. Morgan Stanley spokesman Hugh Fraser says his institution "performed appropriate diligence on the account" and has been cooperating with law enforcement. A Deutsche Bank spokeswoman declined to comment.

Aizkraukles Bank said in a statement that laws prohibit it from talking about specific clients but that in 2003 it investigated several transactions related to the sale of child pornography online and reported its findings to authorities in Latvia.

Mr. O'Dowd, the assistant U.S. attorney in Newark, declined to comment on whether any bank was a target of investigation. In general, he says, banks "really need to focus on continuing due diligence" but "sometimes the ongoing due diligence isn't there."

Regpay also used another U.S. company, LB Systems Inc., run by a Belarussian man living in Los Angeles, to transfer funds to a Regpay account in Latvia, according to the indictments.

Following the Trail

The U.S. investigation began in early 2003 when undercover federal agents in Newark and Washington began purchasing child pornography from Web sites in an attempt to track down people producing and profiting from the sites. It marked the first time the U.S. government followed the financial trail of online child pornography, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The effort was conducted by the U.S. attorney's office in Newark in conjunction with IRS agents, postal inspectors and immigration officials.

Credit-card and other records led agents to Connections. In June 2003, federal agents searched Connections' offices and secured cooperation from the company's owner, Arthur P. Levinson. Mr. Levinson later pleaded guilty in Newark federal court to a criminal violation of structuring financial transactions to avoid reporting requirements. His lawyer, Henry Klingeman, says Mr. Levinson didn't know that Regpay's business involved child pornography.

Connections and two of its employees pleaded guilty to money laundering or failure to report the offense to law enforcement. Connections forfeited more than $1.1 million and was dissolved. Mr. Levinson and the two employees await sentencing.

Posing as Mr. Levinson, federal agents began communicating with Mr. Zalatarou, the Regpay president, and others at the company via email and phone about payment arrangements. Because the U.S. doesn't have an extradition arrangement with Belarus, U.S. authorities couldn't ask the country to hand over Mr. Zalatarou and his cohorts. The federal agents lured Mr. Zalatarou to France under the pretense of discussing future business opportunities.

An agent met with Mr. Zalatarou and Mr. Buchnev, the translator, at the restaurant of the Hotel Concorde La Fayette in Paris on July 30, 2003. Following the meeting, French police arrested the two men in the hotel's lobby. Two days later, Interpol officers arrested Mr. Boika, the Regpay software expert, at a hotel on the northeast coast of Spain, where he was on vacation with his wife. Spain and France have since extradited the three men to the U.S.

Mr. Zalatarou and Mr. Boika both pleaded guilty in February 2005 to money laundering and conspiring to distribute or advertise child pornography. They are in jail in New Jersey awaiting sentencing and face up to 40 and 50 years in prison, respectively. In their native Belarus, penalties for those crimes range from a fine to five years in prison.

Mr. Zalatarou declined to be interviewed. Mr. Little, his lawyer, says he has "accepted his responsibility." Mr. Zalatarou left a wife, Anna, and a 3-year-old daughter behind in Minsk. Ms. Zalatarova, an English teacher, describes Mr. Zalatarou as an "ideal husband and wonderful father" who attended church regularly. She says she "cannot admit the possibility" that he was involved in child pornography.

Mr. Boika, who also has a wife and young child in Belarus, didn't respond to a letter mailed to him in jail. His lawyer in New Jersey, Richard Verde, says Mr. Boika "isn't a bad young man" and "is sorry for what he did."

Mr. Buchnev has pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute child pornography. He faces up to 20 years in prison. His lawyer, Maria Noto, says he didn't know Regpay was involved with child pornography until the July 2003 meeting in Paris with the undercover agent. He "regrets his involvement, as limited as it was," she says.

Federal agents seized server computers in Texas and Virginia that Regpay leased to run its business. The servers yielded credit-card transactions from about 90,000 customers. Almost half were in the U.S., with others as far away as Italy, Hong Kong and New Zealand.

The 330 Regpay subscribers arrested in the U.S. include teachers, priests and Boy Scout volunteers. Among them was Richard G. Fleischer, a 37-year-old divorced father of two who worked as a home-delivery manager for a newspaper in Florida. Police raided Mr. Fleischer's Tallahassee, Fla., home in August 2004 and found more than 1,100 images and video clips of child porn.

Mr. Fleischer told officers he knew he was "doing things I didn't need to do" but was "too scared to talk to anybody" about his problem and even cut off his Internet access to try to escape the temptation, police records show. He pleaded guilty in Florida federal court to possession of child pornography in December 2004 and is serving 15 years in prison.

Mr. Watzman, the pediatrician arrested in Chicago, spent an average of about $1,000 a month purchasing child porn from more than 100 Web sites, according to court filings in his case. He couldn't be reached by phone and didn't respond to a letter mailed to his home. His lawyer, Thomas Durkin, says the 39-year-old Mr. Watzman, "like many people, became addicted to pornography." Mr. Watzman pleaded guilty but is appealing certain elements of his case.

Mr. O'Dowd, the Regpay case prosecutor, says the probe dealt a big blow to commercial distribution of child pornography on the Internet, "but it wasn't a kill shot." He says online distributors are switching from credit cards to electronic-currency systems, which leave less of a paper trail. Law-enforcement officials suspect the people to whom Mr. Zalatarou reported continue to operate under a different name.

Write to Cassell Bryan-Low at cassell.bryan-low@wsj.com

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Colleen Thomas said:

Child porn is illegal. But in this case, it's a smokescreen to make palitable a law that is designed to circumvent individual rights to privacy.

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Roxanne Appleby said:

Yes, Colleen, but if in a political side one side says, "You're doing this because you hate yourselves for loving blowjobs," and the other side says, "The seized servers contained records of 40,000 Americans who purchased child pornography from just one company," guess who wins?

My point is about strategy and tactics and "fighting smart," not about principles. I mean, given that this discussion is taking place on a porn site we pretty much know where we all stand on those.

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