Are the Grammys Racist?

Champakian · Mar 15, 2021

Slam dunk.

rockcasbah · Mar 15, 2021

jaF0 never really accepted the Academy's decision in the 1972 Polka category.

girlsmiley · Mar 15, 2021

rockcasbah said:
The award recipients and nominees seemed quite diverse to me, but a number of the losers and un-nominated artists are alleging racism.

Maybe that's just the way it is now...sore losers and squeaky wheels get to hijack any agenda.

Beyonce threaded the needle quite nicely...she refused to perform, but showed up to collect her awards. How considerate!

How...juvenile.

It's as if you think no one has ever been ripped off.

It doesn't just happen in music. It happens everywhere. It happens all the time in sport. If it involves humans there's a very strong possibility it's rigged.

Do we think O. J. was actually innocent? No. Do we think some decisions are completely fucked because they are? Of course. Humans are fucked sometimes. That's not up for debate, that's a goddamn fact.

rockcasbah · Mar 15, 2021

girlsmiley said:
How...juvenile.

It's as if you think no one has ever been ripped off.

It doesn't just happen in music. It happens everywhere. It happens all the time in sport. If it involves humans there's a very strong possibility it's rigged.

Do we think O. J. was actually innocent? No. Do we think some decisions are completely fucked because they are? Of course. Humans are fucked sometimes. That's not up for debate, that's a goddamn fact.

Sour grapes are as old as competition itself.

girlsmiley · Mar 15, 2021

rockcasbah said:
Sour grapes are as old as competition itself.

I'm not saying sour grapes isn't a thing lol, I'm saying it ain't always sour grapes.

girlsmiley · Mar 15, 2021

Speaking of grapes, cheers to you with my cheap Australian wine the Chinese do not want because, well... sour grapes

rockcasbah · Mar 15, 2021

girlsmiley said:
I'm not saying sour grapes isn't a thing lol, I'm saying it ain't always sour grapes.

Agreed; when the slight is real and not imagined, you'd think there'd be something tangible people could point to.

The Weeknd, for example, appears to have been snubbed.

girlsmiley · Mar 15, 2021

rockcasbah said:
Agreed; when the slight is real and not imagined, you'd think there'd be something tangible people could point to.

The Weeknd, for example, appears to have been snubbed.

When it's real? You don't have to imagine when you see it with your own eyes.

I hate to sound so cliché, but at the end of the day lol, it's up to the individual.

bellisarius · Mar 15, 2021

rockcasbah said:
Agreed; when the slight is real and not imagined, you'd think there'd be something tangible people could point to.

The Weeknd, for example, appears to have been snubbed.

Or could it be that the people in the industry are getting as sick and tired of computer sampled music tracks over layered with autotune vocals as I am?

girlsmiley · Mar 15, 2021

bellisarius said:
Or could it be that the people in the industry are getting as sick and tired of computer sampled music tracks over layered with autotune vocals as I am?

There's nothing new under the sun.

Conager · Mar 15, 2021

Everything is racist these days except for the ideas of actual racists that insist that everything be viewed through the prism of race.

rockcasbah · Mar 15, 2021

bellisarius said:
Or could it be that the people in the industry are getting as sick and tired of computer sampled music tracks over layered with autotune vocals as I am?

If that were true, there wouldn't have been any awards.

Does anyone play instruments anymore are are they just for decoration?

bellisarius · Mar 15, 2021

rockcasbah said:
If that were true, there wouldn't have been any awards.

Does anyone play instruments anymore are are they just for decoration?

Good question. Nashville is still turning out some authentic music. Much of the lyrics are formulaic but the music is real and so is the vocal talent. Pop music is mostly shit these days so the 'judges' are left to pick the best of the turds.

Champakian · Mar 16, 2021

Conager said:
Everything is racist these days except for the ideas of actual racists that insist that everything be viewed through the prism of race.

The only race that matters is white.

If you are white, you are somehow "racist."

Just by being, no matter your inculcation.

You are judged only by the color of your skin.

Praise be to Allah, I am a darker shade of pale...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GZIYjG7nbk

rockcasbah · Mar 16, 2021

I practice discrimination and discernment every day.

Mello_SixtyNine · Mar 16, 2021

The Grammys along with every other award show are immaterial. Eventually, their ratings will fall so low that it won't be profitable to broadcast them.

anniebaby10 · Mar 16, 2021

rockcasbah said:
The Weeknd thinks so.

Maybe they just don’t like Canadians!

seems everything is racist these days...... I did not the play Hamilton at all and had spent over $200 a ticket for my husband and I to see it. But it seemed everyone I knew loved it so we went. I was telling a friend and she said that how could I not love it and perhaps I was turned off because there were so many blacks in the cast.
That pissed me off and I told her that art is personal and not everyone loves Monet either or The Godfather movies. Does that make them anti French or anti Italian?
Maybe his music just sucks. I did not like him at all on the Super Bowl. My daughters like his music but I cannot understand the words and the rhythm is not what I prefer. My choice. Not racist but I agree he sucks.

rockcasbah · Mar 16, 2021

anniebaby10 said:
seems everything is racist these days...... I did not the play Hamilton at all and had spent over $200 a ticket for my husband and I to see it. But it seemed everyone I knew loved it so we went. I was telling a friend and she said that how could I not love it and perhaps I was turned off because there were so many blacks in the cast.
That pissed me off and I told her that art is personal and not everyone loves Monet either or The Godfather movies. Does that make them anti French or anti Italian?
Maybe his music just sucks. I did not like him at all on the Super Bowl. My daughters like his music but I cannot understand the words and the rhythm is not what I prefer. My choice. Not racist but I agree he sucks.

I don't enjoy Tyler Perry movies because the black urban experience doesn't resonate with me.

I enjoy Monty Python movies because university educated british humour resonates with me.

Not liking one or the other has nothing to do with "hate" of skin color, it's a cultural/entertainment preference.

ShagTimes · Mar 17, 2021

rockcasbah said:
I don't enjoy Tyler Perry movies because the black urban experience doesn't resonate with me.

I enjoy Monty Python movies because university educated british humour resonates with me.

Not liking one or the other has nothing to do with "hate" of skin color, it's a cultural/entertainment preference.

If you're white and you enjoy anything that features Caucasian cultural heroes like Shakespeare, James Bond etc, then you're a racist.

You'll get into black history and like it!

rockcasbah · Mar 17, 2021

If I'm not into Peking Duck, that doesn't make me a Sinophobe.

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