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So who would you call a racist, the instigator of racial slurs in an argument

Who would you call the racist in this kind of exchange?

  • The instigator of racial insults

    Votes: 5 100.0%

  • The person who fed the instigator their own medicine

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    5
Retrieval said:
You're full of shit.

Paganangel called LT a nigger. This can be seen as a personal attack, an attack against his race or both and you put him on ignore.

LT calls Killswitch a cracker, again this can be seen as a personal attack against Killswitch, an attack against his race or both and you have no reaction to it.

Don't try with all that "context is clear" shit, you don't know if LT was making a personal attack or not anymore than you know if Paganangel was attacking LT because of his race, yet your reaction too the two are different.

Unless I'm colour blind, you're standing with a "cracker" in your profile pic.

And if I want to fuck anybody, then I could probably fuck you, you pencil neck geek.
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As far as I'm aware, LT called Killswitch a cracker because Killswitch insulted his and my race with a racial derogatory. Killswitch loses the right for respect. Case closed. Paganangel wants to be a cute asshole, drops the n-word for no reason whatsoever. Paganangel loses my respect. Case closed. If LT wants to call Paganangel a cracker BECAUSE of this insult, then in my eyes, regardless of me personally not needing to use racial epithets to insult someone, he's standing up for his own respect in HIS way. That's his choice and if you have a problem with is words, then let him know so and he'll need to stand behind the choice of his words since he's a grown-ass man. I don't like it, but I don't HAVE to like it. If that doesn't sound "fair" to you, then it's no less unfair for my eyes when I have to look at GB post titles with "n*gger" in them that are clearly meant to provoke and/or demean people of color, with me having no power whatsoever to do anything about it.

If you can find evidence of LT just outright making racially divisive and outrageous statements just to be a dick, in the same manner in which Killswitch has done, then please do so and paste the posts for me. I'll reassess my opinion of him. If LT wants to start calling the White members here crackers just for the hell of it or because he's had a bad hair day or just because he feels like exercising his right to free speech and knows he won't get banned for talking shit in this forum, or wants to insult the general White race with inanities that have nothing to do with anything constructive or progressive or even remotely on point with the reason of this site's existance, then he'll get put on blast with me like everybody else. And I have no scruples in letting him know that.

Context DOES mean everything. There is no grey area with my stance here. What, did you think just because someone is ethnic that I'll automatically stand next to them? You gotta have some furniture inside your house, darling.

The person I'm standing with in my profile pic is a FRIEND. Her race — which you stupidly assume may be White at first glance just so you can prove an empty calorie point — means nothing to me next to her friendship. You see, the term "friend" is something I value and a term I don't throw around loosely when my standards become dubious thanks to the faceless internet universe other people live in when they don't have to invest themselves in the lives of other people they call "friends."

Once again for those who came late to class: you give me respect, you get respect back. You give me disrespect, well...you do the math. Despite your attack on me personally, I have yet to call you a cracker once personally speaking. You'll be better off waiting for the return of Hailey's Comet because I don't NEED to.

And since you really wanna play the bigger dick thing with me, hey...say whatever you got to say about me to make yourself feel bigger ONLINE, guy. Internet swagger means nada to this "pencil neck geek." Just like I told Killswitch, you're welcome to come around my way anytime you get on work release just to see how far your ass can cash this check that your mouth loves to write. I live in New York City and I say nothing, nor stand for anything online that makes me feel like I have to hide behind anything. Pick your time, place and date...and we can dance all night long if you want. Bring your Viagra, cuz you're gonna need it. And the weather's MUCH nicer during the summertime, just to let you know.
 
Pookie said:
I don't quite get what you're trying to argue. Are you saying that in the heat of an argument that I can call you a nigger and it could possibly not be me using your race to insult you? You can take whatever license you want to lower yourself into the racist's gutter of using slurs if you want. Just don't complain when you're both covered in sewage and we can't tell the difference between either of you down there.

We're all responsible, individually, for our own actions and the things we say. In another thread, I made a comparison to stealing a car. If someone steals your car, and you steal theirs in retaliation, you're both going to be arrested and charged as car thieves. Someone intelligent in that situation doesn't steal a car in retaliation, do they? It's no different when it comes to anything else done to try to harm another in some way, including using racial slurs. You are being insulted with a specific slur BECAUSE of your race. Why do you think the choice of "nigger" would be chosen to insult you? Why do you think you would choice, oh say, "cracker" to insult the person in retaliation? Because they like to eat Ritz crackers? Or maybe because they're white? You know, their RACE?
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Here's my stance, and I'm making this point mostly in reference to online relationships:

If we're having a conversation that turns into arguing and then you call me a n*gger, then we're done.

If I'm the one to call you a cracker (or any ethnically appropriate derogatory based on your race) then you have the right to cut me off.

Now, if you called me a n*gger in response to my slander, then as wrong and unnecessary as we both know it is, I brought that on myself. You may be wrong for using it but in my opinion, I am doubly wrong because I'm the one who provoked you and forced you into that arena of thought. And maaaaaaybe it can be argued that deep down in your heart you held some secret hidden animosity for my race or whatever, but all that shit didn't come out until I deliberately caused the catalyst for it.

Therefore, in my opinion only, you were defending yourself verbally. I'll decide for myself whether or not I can live with the person you are based on the words you used. All I can say is that I have a brain that understands the words it reads and I can feel where your heart lies. The quality of the character you possess and the kind of person you are is something that only you yourself know for certain and what we outside of you can only tell by the words and manner you choose to express yourself with. So if you say something off-color in the heat of anger and it's not what your heart is or what you'd rather say in your normal voice, I won't hold that against you.

Because I decided to come to this site to enjoy the community of others, then I'm taking the time to actually READ what you're saying rather than hopping in and out, posting for yuks and bullshit, not caring about building anything with anyone, etc...then I'm reading what you're really about. And from that, I'll decide for myself how much I like you and if I'll have your back when shit gets thrown, especially if you're of the type that doesn't need nor ask for my support.

There are people here who will say things because they've been pushed into a corner or who will fight back for their identity. They won't start divisive shit up just because they're bored or whatever. Then there's people who just say shit because they don't respect others, don't have to care and know there's the freedom here to exercise disrespect without penalty. Both will use racially inflammatory words. I don't have to like either and would honestly not have to deal with either (a situation that wouldn't come around if the use of racist dialogue meant silencing or banning) but the people in the former are not my enemy until they move into the latter. I don't have to talk to the former and I will not respect the latter.

I dunno if this answers what you asked me, but I'm hoping it covers something I want to make clear on the way I stand.
 
That's just the point.

Pookie is trying to play MOMMY with me because I call someone a CRACKER who first called me a NIGGER. Not for the fuck of it, not because of a bad hair day, or any of that.

Pookie won't say JACK DIDDLY when one of her pals - like Byron in Exile - hurls the NIGGER insult, though.

She's much like Republican (ex-speaker) Dennis Hastert calling Bill Clinton a sexual predator while covering up for Mark Foley.

This is not about morality with her, IK. It's about grudges. She makes up the rules as she goes along.
 
Still trying to justify your use of "retaliatory" racial slurs I see.

I don't accept the excuse that "He did it first!" from my nine year old son as an explanation for bad behavior.

Congratulations, you can justify ignorance on a pre-school level.

For all of your bitching about others using racial slurs against you you're no better. You lowered yourself to exactly the same level and wallowed in the mud right along side them. You can keep trying to explain your actions away, but this is the crux of the matter.

It's a good bet that you would have done the exact same thing even if the others had been berated, dressed down for their use of racial slurs. Just read back at your reaction to my post when I said that ALL parties involved were wrong. You refused to accept it, lashed out at me as if I were somehow to blame because I held you to the same standard as the instigator (Which is your main bitch with Pookie I've gathered) and still argued that you are justified in "retaliation".

In your own eyes maybe you are, but in mine you're just as wrong, no better, no worse. Feel justified all you want, but know that other people don't judge you based on your own vision of yourself but by what they see with their own eyes. I see a petty little man that thinks he's justified using racial slurs against someone else. I see you exhibiting racist behavior.
 
LovingTongue said:
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Pookie is trying to play MOMMY with me because I call someone a CRACKER who first called me a NIGGER. Not for the fuck of it, not because of a bad hair day, or any of that.
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Did calling him a cracker hurt his feelings as much as him calling you a nigger hurt you?
 
LovingTongue said:
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You don't have to give a fuck. You don't have to care if other people see you as just as much a racist fuck as the person that used a slur against you when you respond in kind.

You can continue to puff out your chest and dance around as if you've won something. You haven't, the near absolute lack of participation in your "poll" and the few supporting opinions speaks volumes.

You're wrong, you'll see it one day when you get shitcanned in the real world for using "retaliatory" slurs. I manage a good sized group of people and I can tell you exactly what would happen.
You would BOTH be fired, I've seen it.
"He said it first" is no defense.

Keep dancing though. You're the "winner" I'm finished trying to get you to see reason. You don't see anything but what you want to believe.
 
Ulaven_Demorte said:
You're wrong, you'll see it one day when you get shitcanned in the real world for using "retaliatory" slurs.
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BTDT, didn't get fired. I manage the place now. I bet this workplace is bigger than yours. Next!
 
bronzeage said:
Did calling him a cracker hurt his feelings as much as him calling you a nigger hurt you?
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Try 'offended'. Of course, even being offended by a racial slur is
a) a sign of weakness
b) a legitimate thing

?

C'mon, show me how far off you are from reality.
 
LovingTongue said:
BTDT, didn't get fired. I manage the place now. I bet this workplace is bigger than yours. Next!
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Next you'll be wanting to grab a ruler and start measuring cock size. :rolleyes:

If you actually got away with claiming "retaliation" in using a slur against someone (I doubt that ever really happened) then it must be a peachy place to work. :rolleyes:

You wouldn't get away with it where I work for damn sure. Corporate zero tolerance for that type of behavior, same for a physical altercation between two associates.
Immediate termination for both.

Dance some more. I'm finished even trying to reason with you.
 
Ulaven_Demorte said:
Next you'll be wanting to grab a ruler and start measuring cock size. :rolleyes:

If you actually got away with claiming "retaliation" in using a slur against someone (I doubt that ever really happened) then it must be a peachy place to work. :rolleyes:

You wouldn't get away with it where I work for damn sure. Corporate zero tolerance for that type of behavior, same for a physical altercation between two associates.
Immediate termination for both.

Dance some more. I'm finished even trying to reason with you.
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STFU, child abuser.
 
LovingTongue said:
STFU, child abuser.
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*points and laughs*

You should pick up a book once in awhile. I recommend Heinlein, where the quote came from you're all up in arms about. :rolleyes:
 
Heinlein quote or no Heinlein quote, that's still a raging insane remark.

Lots of people write stuff that's not kosher to joke about.

Shit, man, you're "joking" about torturing a kid. Which is likely no joke at all, really.
 
LovingTongue said:
Try 'offended'. Of course, even being offended by a racial slur is
a) a sign of weakness
b) a legitimate thing

?

C'mon, show me how far off you are from reality.
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Yo Bronzeage, c'mon, answer the question. :)
 
The is already known as one of Lit's racist already!!

Black power this and black power that...give it up already..okay Lt!!!
 
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