*Shh* Quiet things to play with?

FurryFury said:
I figure a cane could be too or that cat fishing pole toy.

Fury :rose:

Hmmm, like others have said, I would steer clear of anything like cat toys etc., simply because quality and strength are not usually their strong points. That being said, IMHO all toys (even a vibrator or dildo) can be potentially dangerous in the hands of a jerk or someone who doesn't think...don't think you or your husband fall into that category FF. :) While it is all very nice to pop into every workshop on every toy possible (if you happen to live somewhere where this is even possible of course, and that is unusuall), it is not the reality of most and for most experimentation coupled with common sense and prior research is more what happens. I have always relied on gauging the intelligence, knowledge, and nature of those I played with in the past as to whether they were likely to know what they were doing and more importantly, were concerned about my welfare...interestingly, some who were keen on going to workshops were the ones who had occasional mishaps (thankfully I didn't play with them) simply because they relaxed their guard believing they had all the facts from listening to an 'expert' and watching what they did, so could do no wrong...doesn't always work as is usually intended which is why I used my own head first and foremost and was fortunate to not be injured by a play partner.

As to the silence of canes, for us they are not silent...there is a noticeable sound of impact on flesh, level depending on thickness of the cane and also the force behind the strike...then there is also speed which can cause whistling as the cane slices the air prior to impact. ;) Of course, they still are among my favourite things, and I brought back more cane from Oz to make some more for us....hmm, we already have 5 I made several years ago, but one can never have too many. :cathappy:

Putting aside reactionary noises, I would have to say the most silent and simple methods involve biting (nice and gradual, and harder as the minutes pass), and also hands...pinching, squeezing, crushing, twisting, scratching etc.). Interestingly, with my problem with not marking very easily (sheeesh, not even with the bullwhip :rolleyes: ), we have found his teeth and hands are the most effective means of getting some colour that lasts more than an hour or so, not to mention they create exquisite torture. There are also those delightful clamps you find in hardware departments which are plastic with rubber tips, but come in various sizes and strengths and are usually more powerful than the clothespin.

For impact items, one we have found which is surprisingly quieter and often silent compared to floggers, crops, and canes, is a small cane ( well was listed as a whip in the equestrian store I bought it in) which is only about 12-14 inches long and covered in soft leather. Due to the length and strength it does not have flexibility so requires some care, but also packs more pain than most of our canes and can be used quietly, not to mention is easy to carry anywhere unseen (slips up a sleeve easily, in a small overnight bag too :D ). It is a delightful multi-purpose tool for playtime. As a rule most things used for impact such as hairbrushes, wooden spoons, spatulas, paddles, canes, crops, floggers etc., are going to make noise...pressure items are much more quiet, though that is without taking into account the screams, groaning, moaning, begging that might occur.:eek: And of course there is always restraints such as rope etc., which can be used to create pain for short periods of time. :devil:

Catalina :catroar:
 
Well, just the name inplies a sound. When you say "impact", it is two objects coming together, either both in motion or one stationary and the other in motion and the abrupt stop of that motion (the impact) results in a noise.

In this case, it's only one of the objects in motion and when it strikes the stationary object, the shape of both objects makes a difference. Also the material makes a difference. Because we are talking about the human body being the stationary object, we will consider it flat (and sensitive) when the impact occurs. So, the object that is in motion whould need to be something that isn't flat, or there would be a distinct smacking sound when they um...collide.

Most all paddles, some spoons, canes, when used vigorously, and most large floggers all will make a noise on impact. Some cane and flogger use can be controlled to the point the noise is slight, but that might lessen the enjoyment, too.

Floggers will produce a thud, and canes will produce a swishing sound before the smacking sound of impact. The wider the falls or blades on a flogger are, the more thud sound will be produced. I have one flogger that is soft cawhide, and the falls are about 1/2 inch wide. It will produce quite a thud. I have another one that is only leather thongs the size of shoelaces, and the thud sound is still obvious, but at a higher pitch.

I made a flogger out of the nylon from a lawn chair. I separated the webbing and added a handle. It's about 3 feet long and quite light. It takes a certain skill to use it, because it's light. But, if you flick it like a wet towel it is quite useful and also very quiet.

The sting it produces is kind of like a bee sting, and can be worse, as the user's skill increases. And, when used as a basic flogger, it works well on nipples and clits, too. If you or your husband are a little creative, you can come up with something liike this and it's very cheap.

For the electrical toy lover, the violet wand is kind of quiet, but it produces a buzzing noise, even when it's just sitting. And, when used, it produces another sound...well, like a shocking sound. I wouldn't say it's loud, but it is not silent, either. And, as an impact toy, it is limited.

Now, a TENS unit is very quiet. In fact, it makes no real noise at all, but as an impact toy it isn't really in that category. Oh, electrical toys can produce an impact on the body, but in their own special way.

Are you trying to keep things completely silent? Are your kids trying to sleep during your play time? I was wondering if playing music would work. It doesn't have to be loud, but just loud enough to cover the thud of a flogger, the crack of a cane, the muffled whimpers of a sub in pain and maybe even the smack of a leather paddle.
 
Ok, I'm deaf so this is an honest question...

It seems to me that logically, certain sounds would be easier to mask than others with white noise? I've always been curious by exactly how well "normal hearing" people can really hear. I can see a paddle or a hairbrush making an awful lot of noise that would still travel over the sound of music or whatnot....but a cane or a flogger? They make some noise, I'm sure, but enough to really be noticable or recognized or even heard above the mask noise?

Sometimes D will have me use an implement on myself and I put the TV on or play music, but I never really know if it matters at all.
 
serijules said:
Ok, I'm deaf so this is an honest question...

It seems to me that logically, certain sounds would be easier to mask than others with white noise? I've always been curious by exactly how well "normal hearing" people can really hear. I can see a paddle or a hairbrush making an awful lot of noise that would still travel over the sound of music or whatnot....but a cane or a flogger? They make some noise, I'm sure, but enough to really be noticable or recognized or even heard above the mask noise?

Sometimes D will have me use an implement on myself and I put the TV on or play music, but I never really know if it matters at all.

I am not sure anyone elses hearing has suffered like yours but I wish mine was alot better. The whole white noise thing might be tricky because lets say you have been nice to your ears that day well then they might hear a bit more as you have not de-senitized them to loud noise that day. The example of a cane the whistle effect as it slices through the air could be covered but the impact sounds, well I just don't know. Then there is noise that the person might make even when gagged I assume there is still a bit of noise.
 
a flogger of any but the lightest weight makes a slappy sound, if it's leather.

Canes are good for noiselessness, and I think you can learn more reading Janet Hardy's little green book put out by Greenery Press on canes and caning than you will at most workshops. It travels with me wherever I go and it even has a section on making canes.

Electrostim is noiseless. (TENS and PES that is ) Expensive, but noiseless.
 
shy slave said:
Well he was very vanilla, but he was open minded too.

A couple of weeks after he turned 18 he sat me down and started a conversation with:

'Now mum, I know your a submissive....' :eek:

Then he decided to 'interview' Andante before I met him, and follow that up with dating and safe sex advice going as far as to ask me about my safe sex protection.

I think that's wonderful of him.

I had "the talk" with my mother after my Dad's death. When she started to date again. I took her some condoms and tried to get it through her brain that being prepared doesn't mean you are a hussy.

She still had a pregnancy scare. *sighs*

Fury :rose:

serijules said:
Canes are not, IMO "toys". They require a certain skill level and knowledge to use safely. Some will disagree with me. I'll secretely think they are idiots. :)

Anyhow...some people like to play with dowel rods from craft stores and call them canes. Stay away from dowel rods. They are great for crafts...they are idiotic for pain play. A cane and a dowel are nothing alike other than they LOOK similar.

Actual rattan canes (bamboo is not great for beginners) are fairly cheap. Do a search on Hansons Paddles...they have a nice variety cane bundle for a good price.

Acrylic canes are nice too, but again I would stick with those actually made for BDSM use and not cheaper, "vanilla" versions like cat toy rods or whatnot. Some people play with those plastic rods from mini blinds, cane style. These things are alright if used fairly lightly, but any serious play, please stick with professionally made products and make sure your partner does some reading and practicing with them beforehand.

May sound overboard here, but I've seen others be injured and been injured myself by improper use of canes or cane substitutes, and I just don't find any excuse acceptable for cutting corners in this play area.

That being said....canes are FANTASTIC for sensation, pain and quiet (well, cept the bottoms' screams at times :) :) :) )

Floggers...Im not really sure how noise they are, being deaf and all, so this really isn't the best topic for me to be advising on...I don't really tend to think of floggers as noisy toys, especially if you put on some music to mask the sound, I would think it would be fairly easily masked in comparison to say, paddles or hand spankings or things like that. "odd" types of floggers seem to have the most sensation to me, i'm not really a fan of leather floggers...rather boring for me. I love rubber, satin and flexible plastic lacing floggers....all have more bite and sensation to them for me than leather. Leather is nice for warmup, heh. But thats just me :)

I really appreciate your experience and advice! I'm going to keep this all in mind when I buy our next toys.

*HUGS*

Fury :rose:

@}-}rebecca---- said:
Taaa Daaaaaar

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<<< happy rabbit

Cute stuff!!! *grins*

Fury :rose:
 
jadefirefly said:
C. is very fond of this approach. He even got snippy over breathing too loud. *That* takes a lot of work. ;)

Fury, I wish I had more advice for you other than to just say good luck -- every so often, it sinks in for someone that I have not seen C in over two months, and they'll say incredulously, "What do you DO to make it tolerable? Do you have toys?" And I just smile and them, and point out that I share a room with a three year old. The horror on their faces... it's priceless.

I hate sharing a room. :p

*HUGS*

Fury :rose:

A Desert Rose said:
Boy, are these the truest words ever typed. And I hope people heed this advice. Too many new-to-the-scene-ers jump in head first and don't think. (Personally, I hate the cane. It means nothing but punishment to me and I do everything I can to avoid it.)

That being said, I don't have any quiet ideas for you. I mostly live alone. One of my Doms likes moaning, begging, whining and crying (and He loves the cane.) The other Fella who I occassionally play with, likes all of the above, and screaming. Hard to be quiet when they push you to such an exquisite point.

I do love clothespins, though. They're quiet and delightfully painful. And wooden spoons are pretty quiet, too.

I've never had the luxury of feeling that I could make much noise. I wish I had!

Clothespins are some things I don't tolerate too well. I wish I did.

Our wooden spoon is pretty loud impact wise.

We have a small house, built in the 30's with plaster walls. *sighs*

Fury :rose:

MechaBlade said:
asphixiation play.

Haha, I'm kidding.

well, not really.

He'd never go for that. Though I do fantasize about it.

Fury :rose:
 
Blushing Bottom said:
I'm quiet.

You could play with me.

:kiss:

"Sounds" good!

*c*

Fury :rose:

catalina_francisco said:
Hmmm, like others have said, I would steer clear of anything like cat toys etc., simply because quality and strength are not usually their strong points. That being said, IMHO all toys (even a vibrator or dildo) can be potentially dangerous in the hands of a jerk or someone who doesn't think...don't think you or your husband fall into that category FF. :) While it is all very nice to pop into every workshop on every toy possible (if you happen to live somewhere where this is even possible of course, and that is unusuall), it is not the reality of most and for most experimentation coupled with common sense and prior research is more what happens. I have always relied on gauging the intelligence, knowledge, and nature of those I played with in the past as to whether they were likely to know what they were doing and more importantly, were concerned about my welfare...interestingly, some who were keen on going to workshops were the ones who had occasional mishaps (thankfully I didn't play with them) simply because they relaxed their guard believing they had all the facts from listening to an 'expert' and watching what they did, so could do no wrong...doesn't always work as is usually intended which is why I used my own head first and foremost and was fortunate to not be injured by a play partner.

As to the silence of canes, for us they are not silent...there is a noticeable sound of impact on flesh, level depending on thickness of the cane and also the force behind the strike...then there is also speed which can cause whistling as the cane slices the air prior to impact. ;) Of course, they still are among my favourite things, and I brought back more cane from Oz to make some more for us....hmm, we already have 5 I made several years ago, but one can never have too many.

Putting aside reactionary noises, I would have to say the most silent and simple methods involve biting (nice and gradual, and harder as the minutes pass), and also hands...pinching, squeezing, crushing, twisting, scratching etc.). Interestingly, with my problem with not marking very easily (sheeesh, not even with the bullwhip ), we have found his teeth and hands are the most effective means of getting some colour that lasts more than an hour or so, not to mention they create exquisite torture. There are also those delightful clamps you find in hardware departments which are plastic with rubber tips, but come in various sizes and strengths and are usually more powerful than the clothespin.

For impact items, one we have found which is surprisingly quieter and often silent compared to floggers, crops, and canes, is a small cane ( well was listed as a whip in the equestrian store I bought it in) which is only about 12-14 inches long and covered in soft leather. Due to the length and strength it does not have flexibility so requires some care, but also packs more pain than most of our canes and can be used quietly, not to mention is easy to carry anywhere unseen (slips up a sleeve easily, in a small overnight bag too :D ). It is a delightful multi-purpose tool for playtime. As a rule most things used for impact such as hairbrushes, wooden spoons, spatulas, paddles, canes, crops, floggers etc., are going to make noise...pressure items are much more quiet, though that is without taking into account the screams, groaning, moaning, begging that might occur.:eek: And of course there is always restraints such as rope etc., which can be used to create pain for short periods of time.

Catalina

Great information and advice! Thank you Catalina! *hug*

Fury :rose:

DVS said:
Well, just the name inplies a sound. When you say "impact", it is two objects coming together, either both in motion or one stationary and the other in motion and the abrupt stop of that motion (the impact) results in a noise.

In this case, it's only one of the objects in motion and when it strikes the stationary object, the shape of both objects makes a difference. Also the material makes a difference. Because we are talking about the human body being the stationary object, we will consider it flat (and sensitive) when the impact occurs. So, the object that is in motion whould need to be something that isn't flat, or there would be a distinct smacking sound when they um...collide.

Most all paddles, some spoons, canes, when used vigorously, and most large floggers all will make a noise on impact. Some cane and flogger use can be controlled to the point the noise is slight, but that might lessen the enjoyment, too.

Floggers will produce a thud, and canes will produce a swishing sound before the smacking sound of impact. The wider the falls or blades on a flogger are, the more thud sound will be produced. I have one flogger that is soft cawhide, and the falls are about 1/2 inch wide. It will produce quite a thud. I have another one that is only leather thongs the size of shoelaces, and the thud sound is still obvious, but at a higher pitch.

I made a flogger out of the nylon from a lawn chair. I separated the webbing and added a handle. It's about 3 feet long and quite light. It takes a certain skill to use it, because it's light. But, if you flick it like a wet towel it is quite useful and also very quiet.

The sting it produces is kind of like a bee sting, and can be worse, as the user's skill increases. And, when used as a basic flogger, it works well on nipples and clits, too. If you or your husband are a little creative, you can come up with something liike this and it's very cheap.

For the electrical toy lover, the violet wand is kind of quiet, but it produces a buzzing noise, even when it's just sitting. And, when used, it produces another sound...well, like a shocking sound. I wouldn't say it's loud, but it is not silent, either. And, as an impact toy, it is limited.

Now, a TENS unit is very quiet. In fact, it makes no real noise at all, but as an impact toy it isn't really in that category. Oh, electrical toys can produce an impact on the body, but in their own special way.

Are you trying to keep things completely silent? Are your kids trying to sleep during your play time? I was wondering if playing music would work. It doesn't have to be loud, but just loud enough to cover the thud of a flogger, the crack of a cane, the muffled whimpers of a sub in pain and maybe even the smack of a leather paddle.

Thanks DVS!

No, they are not trying to sleep. We usually go to sleep before they do in fact. We do play music but they claim it doesn't help.

I got to hear a violet wand the other night so I know just what you mean!

Maybe I need to look at sound proofing.

Fury:rose:
 
serijules said:
Ok, I'm deaf so this is an honest question...

It seems to me that logically, certain sounds would be easier to mask than others with white noise? I've always been curious by exactly how well "normal hearing" people can really hear. I can see a paddle or a hairbrush making an awful lot of noise that would still travel over the sound of music or whatnot....but a cane or a flogger? They make some noise, I'm sure, but enough to really be noticeable or recognized or even heard above the mask noise?

Sometimes D will have me use an implement on myself and I put the TV on or play music, but I never really know if it matters at all.

I tell my kids to put on head phones. I've tried a lot of things. I've put a white noise machine between their room and ours and used music. I think they hear too damned well.

We only have the mini flogger I've mentioned but they can hear it. The hand is louder. The yard stick louder still. The ping pong paddle a little less so. As I said the rose stems were not very noisy though there was a bit of a whistle as they were swung.

Fury :rose:

Netzach said:
a flogger of any but the lightest weight makes a slappy sound, if it's leather.

Canes are good for noiselessness, and I think you can learn more reading Janet Hardy's little green book put out by Greenery Press on canes and caning than you will at most workshops. It travels with me wherever I go and it even has a section on making canes.

Electrostim is noiseless. (TENS and PES that is ) Expensive, but noiseless.

Hi Netzach!

Thanks for the information and advice! I'm learning a lot from you! *smiles* BTW, the chicken wings thing worked better, thank you!

Fury :rose:
 
Netzach said:
Hey, awesome, I'm so glad you had some good results with it!

I did but I still need to get better at these things. This time he did NOT try to get loose until I told him he could. I liked that much better too.

Have you seen my pic thread of him? *grins*

Fury :rose:
 
DVS said:
Something tells me if that gets a little too close to a lighted cande, it wouldn't be very quiet...or slow. :D

:eek: You know I don't like you DVS..........
 
FurryFury said:
So tell me some things that are fun, painful, and/or sensational but quiet?

My kids complain about the impact noises we make. I love the spankings and so on but I don't want to inflict such sounds on the kids.

Fury :rose:

my friends have problems with their neighbors. There's been a couple eof times that one of them has dropped by to make sure that the female is alright because of the sounds. To solve this they started playing music when they session her, and myself. the music drowns out most of the sound, and it's interesting when they start swinging to the beat *giggles*.

ofcourse now the neighbors complain about the music from time to time :rolleyes: dunno if this will help but thought I'd throw it out there :)
 
I have the fox one and its lovely

I would really love the bunny one for Easter or Christmas but not sure I would want the pig one.

Although I don't have a rational explanation as to why that would be different lol
 
shy slave said:
I have the fox one and its lovely

I would really love the bunny one for Easter or Christmas but not sure I would want the pig one.

Although I don't have a rational explanation as to why that would be different lol

Because bunnies and foxes are cute and fluffy, and therefore remind us of - or are - pets. Pigs, while there are some adorably cute ones, are not things that most people like to be compared to.
 
jadefirefly said:
Because bunnies and foxes are cute and fluffy, and therefore remind us of - or are - pets. Pigs, while there are some adorably cute ones, are not things that most people like to be compared to.

Ok, that sounds rational to me, so thats my reason

:)

Thanks Jade
 
shy slave said:
Ok, that sounds rational to me, so thats my reason

:)

Thanks Jade
It's not how the tail makes YOU feel, it's what it does for the Dom that counts. And, you know what it makes a Dom want from you, when he sees you with a pig tail? He wants to make you SQUEAL in a special way! :p :D
 
DVS said:
It's not how the tail makes YOU feel, it's what it does for the Dom that counts. And, you know what it makes a Dom want from you, when he sees you with a pig tail? He wants to make you SQUEAL in a special way! :p :D

Those words.."Its what it does for the Dom that counts"

I am confused, you mean its about him not me??? :confused:

As for making me squeal, you have given me a really good idea how you would do that in the other thread.

*Returns to hide mode*
 
Chris please put your comments back, they were not mean or hurtful or unkind

:rose:
 
DVS said:
It's not how the tail makes YOU feel, it's what it does for the Dom that counts. And, you know what it makes a Dom want from you, when he sees you with a pig tail? He wants to make you SQUEAL in a special way! :p :D

Oops. So many of my conversations lately have been with the subbies I was starting to forget that! :p
 
raisedSkirt said:
Wondering if I would be a "Bunny" or a "Fox" ~~~blushing now~~~

Fleure

I'd make a "radiant" pig. *bats eyelashes and looks innocent*

*c*

Fury :rose:

the captians wench said:
my friends have problems with their neighbors. There's been a couple eof times that one of them has dropped by to make sure that the female is alright because of the sounds. To solve this they started playing music when they session her, and myself. the music drowns out most of the sound, and it's interesting when they start swinging to the beat *giggles*.

ofcourse now the neighbors complain about the music from time to time :rolleyes: dunno if this will help but thought I'd throw it out there :)

Thanks for sharing that! *hugs* Boy I'd hate to have neighbors make sure I'm alright or my husband is. He is MUCH noisier than I am. Men. *shakes head*

Fury :rose:
 
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