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Honey and the Dragoness, I have to congratulate you both on your story, I just read it and well, its sssssmokin! :devil:
 
It makes me sad to read or hear about bulimia and related conditions, because it reminds me of what a stilted definition of "beauty" and "attractive" reigns in this era, and how destructive that is.

A while back there was an "am I fat" thread on GB. I posted the following in response to the attached image:

This woman is sexy and not fat. This can only be considered "fat" using the very narrow definition that is unfortunately the current fashion. Take a step back from the post-Marilyn decades and try to look at her in a broader historical context. In my stories I use the term "fleshy" and "voluptuous" to depict this very look, and it is purely a good and very hot thing.

In an evolutionary sense this woman is probably literally perfect. She will bear many strong children, can carry heavy loads for long distances, and will not die in the famine months. I'm not saying that is necessarily the only proper standard, but it's perhaps a useful reference point.

I think women who are 10 or 20 or even 30 pounds above the current fashion's "ideal" are very attractive - even hot! – so long as they are fit and they have good muscle tone. This image illustrates that perfectly. There is nothing to suggest that this woman is not a regular jogger (with a really good sports bra). She is fit and has good muscle tone.

Given that, any woman who looks like this should pat herself on the back, give herself a good O, say "Damn I'm hot," and chill out about the fashion du jour famine-victim fad.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/spitfiregriffin/Voluptuouswoman.jpg
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Nirvanadragones said:
Question of the day:What are your three most favorite possessions and why
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My motorcycle... she is my sanity... even when i can't get my knees in the breeze for real... just envisioning a ride is enough to blow the cobbwebs and stress away.

My puter... how else do i stay in touch with friends and family the world over.

Softball pendant on gold chain from 1932 tornament in Omaha, Ne. My grandfather, whom i never met as he died before my birth, was the winning pitcher and i truly feel my talent comes from him. He always watched over me while i played... and he wants me to start playing again... so i found a team for the summer.
little_dragon said:
Yesterday morning, I asked her to marry me.....and she said yes....in English, in Korean, in Japanese.....
Dragon
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I am SO glad that you shared that! Was having trouble keeping my mouth shut! Hope your hand is all right today! You two take care and have a great day and weekend to come! *BFG*
Honey123 said:
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UNDIES: White miracle bra and white g-string with adjustable straps :eek:
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Ok... i gotta ask.... is this an easy access thing or a comfort notion, Beautiful?! :cool:
Nirvanadragones said:
You know i think you're beautiful. I'll bump that post for you on your thread if you need me to. You are beautiful. Believe it. :rose:
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I concur in triplicate!!!!! and that voice!!! :rose: :kiss: *still swooning*

MOOD: Mostly happy... a little sadly disappointed
WEARING: Dark blue long sleeve over Sturgis tank over dark blue sport bra and jeans that have my belt working overtime... :D Only 23 pounds to go to goal!
MUSIC: Take Off Your Clothes... Morningwood
 
Anniejustagirl said:
My motorcycle... she is my sanity... even when i can't get my knees in the breeze for real... just envisioning a ride is enough to blow the cobbwebs and stress away.

My puter... how else do i stay in touch with friends and family the world over.

Softball pendant on gold chain from 1932 tornament in Omaha, Ne. My grandfather, whom i never met as he died before my birth, was the winning pitcher and i truly feel my talent comes from him. He always watched over me while i played... and he wants me to start playing again... so i found a team for the summer.
I am SO glad that you shared that! Was having trouble keeping my mouth shut! Hope your hand is all right today! You two take care and have a great day and weekend to come! *BFG*

Ok... i gotta ask.... is this an easy access thing or a comfort notion, Beautiful?! :cool:

I concur in triplicate!!!!! and that voice!!! :rose: :kiss: *still swooning*

MOOD: Mostly happy... a little sadly disappointed
WEARING: Dark blue long sleeve over Sturgis tank over dark blue sport bra and jeans that have my belt working overtime... :D Only 23 pounds to go to goal!
MUSIC: Take Off Your Clothes... Morningwood
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Good afternoon Annie :rose: did the "parcel" arrive safely this time?
 
mark197205 said:
Good afternoon Annie :rose: did the "parcel" arrive safely this time?
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Ah yes, it did... thank you. Forgive me for not saying something earlier oh hot one. I was busy swooning... and i don't have much bi left in me at All! :cool:

So when is the next trip... i see you need to work on your tan line?! *eg*
 
Anniejustagirl said:
Ah yes, it did... thank you. Forgive me for not saying something earlier oh hot one. I was busy swooning... and i don't have much bi left in me at All! :cool:

So when is the next trip... i see you need to work on your tan line?! *eg*
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No worries, you didnt need to say anything really, so I found a little bit left of that part of yourself that you had forgotten about? :D :nana:


I do have some bits left to tan dont I? ;)


*edited to add* Thats a real nice belt buckle you got there, I have a belt with interchangable buckles, one of which is a Harley one, will try and take some pics for you if you are interested?.... :)
 
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Good day all :)

Just saying hi and then taking my cranky self back to the "working" side of my pooter.

Bummed about the effort it takes for me to hang with some of my straight friends and to constantly moniter what I say. Yes, I could just come out to everyone, but that is just not a practical solution in my current situation.

We are still working on the "acceptance" issues inherent in a rural setting.

Some of the ladies went to see Brokeback Mtn. Only one man would go, one said his wife could rent it and he would watch it with her if she promised not to tell anyone (seriously) and the rest have catagorically refused to even have it discussed in front of them. My hubby would go see it and to hell with what other people say.

I'll be fine soon, just blecked out about the effort of being one who tries to gently lead others toward acceptance and open mindedness or at least diminishing the "automatic hate response". Feel like telling people to go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

Glad I have you guys to be my real self with. :rose: Thanks all.

On a lighter note, I made a bet with one of the ladies last night that I could find her something interesting to do when she is in Uxbridge England, I think that is next month. I know she is very much into field trialing dogs and can play concert level piano. And although I cannot say for sure, I suspect that the term "not vanilla" could be applied to her marriage.

I would like some regularstuff and maybe a kink or two to throw at her, if anyone has leads you can post them here or PM me if you prefer. :D

:heart: Congratulations to the love dragons :heart:

Hi everyone else, sorry, but I gotta run, hope to ttyl-lezli
 
playwithlezli said:
Bummed about the effort it takes for me to hang with some of my straight friends and to constantly moniter what I say. Yes, I could just come out to everyone, but that is just not a practical solution in my current situation...
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Wow. I know how you feel. I've become so used my current situation that I've only barely caught myself before saying something "incriminating". I hate being the dirty little secret, though. It's a shame. This would be such a great relationship otherwise. :confused:

But it would be so easy to say something like, "Yes, C and I were talking about that in bed last night." Simple. But out in the open for anyone to see. (Of course, some of our closer friends probably suspect or know anyway, but they haven't said anything.)

The whole reason for keeping it in the closet is because of their kids. My girlfriend especially is just terrified that if our relationship became known, DSS would swoop in and take her children away from this "destructive" relationship. What the hell? I love the kids like mad, and they practically have three loving parents right now instead of two (not to mention a more financially stable household). And yet, the precedence is there. It's infuriating, but it's the world we live in, and because of that world, I'm going to have to leave the best relationship I've ever had. Grar.

... um. Sorry. I'm done ranting now. :eek:


-dizzy :rose:
 
dizzylia said:
Wow. I know how you feel. I've become so used my current situation that I've only barely caught myself before saying something "incriminating". I hate being the dirty little secret, though. It's a shame. This would be such a great relationship otherwise. :confused:

But it would be so easy to say something like, "Yes, C and I were talking about that in bed last night." Simple. But out in the open for anyone to see. (Of course, some of our closer friends probably suspect or know anyway, but they haven't said anything.)

The whole reason for keeping it in the closet is because of their kids. My girlfriend especially is just terrified that if our relationship became known, DSS would swoop in and take her children away from this "destructive" relationship. What the hell? I love the kids like mad, and they practically have three loving parents right now instead of two (not to mention a more financially stable household). And yet, the precedence is there. It's infuriating, but it's the world we live in, and because of that world, I'm going to have to leave the best relationship I've ever had. Grar.

... um. Sorry. I'm done ranting now. :eek:


-dizzy :rose:
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No Dizz, rant away. I had a situation last week with friends of ours... Straight couple with two kidlets - one is a little girl of 2 and a bit, the other a boy just over a year. I have not raised my daughter according to the traditional way of what is appropriate for a girl and what not. Much thought has gone into our parenting style, and it is something I am very specific about.(she probably has more so-called boys toys than girly stuff - originated by me, but now her choice)

So the father of this family swipes a doll away from his 1 year old son because "he should not play with dolls" Needless to say i nearly had a heart-attack. Because i am relatively close to his wife, and did not want to have the conversation infront of the children, we went for coffee the next day and we talked about the situation. All I can say is thank goodness i am comfortable with my sexuality and that I can raise my daughter the way I see fit...

People and their homophobic ways never ceases to amaze me.
 
Nirvanadragones said:
No Dizz, rant away. I had a situation last week with friends of ours... Straight couple with two kidlets - one is a little girl of 2 and a bit, the other a boy just over a year. I have not raised my daughter according to the traditional way of what is appropriate for a girl and what not. Much thought has gone into our parenting style, and it is something I am very specific about.(she probably has more so-called boys toys than girly stuff - originated by me, but now her choice)

So the father of this family swipes a doll away from his 1 year old son because "he should not play with dolls" Needless to say i nearly had a heart-attack. Because i am relatively close to his wife, and did not want to have the conversation infront of the children, we went for coffee the next day and we talked about the situation. All I can say is thank goodness i am comfortable with my sexuality and that I can raise my daughter the way I see fit...

People and their homophobic ways never ceases to amaze me.
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I have to agree with you all, as you all know I am 100% hetero, but I do have numerous gay friends/ work colleagues, and I am comfortable enough around them to even flirt harmlessly with them and or talk smutty with them safe in the knowledge that I am a friend not someone they want to have sex with (well even if they do it desnt bother me either), I also have a friend on here who is a bi male and we have joked repeatedly about how he knows I want him, and how he will make a man of me....

If only the narrow minded in the world could get a grip on reality. *sigh*
 
I'm comfortable with myself too...as you all can tell I flirt with all sexes...I don't think it matters what gender a person is. If you feel comfortable with each other what does it matter?

I just find it so sad that some people find it so terrible if you have sexual feelings for someone of the same sex.

EDITED: This sounded foolish even to myself...I am sorry...I am really tired..not a good night's sleep..if I offended in anyway, I apologize and blame it on my sleepiness....
 
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Afternoon

Just got in from work..no kidlets, no roomies, nobody but me and my nice warm shower!!!

Mood~cheerful
Wearing~zilch (gettin ready to hop in the shower)
Listening to~ cars riding by..

Will answer the question of the day after I get clean!! :kiss:
 
Nirvanadragones said:
No Dizz, rant away. I had a situation last week with friends of ours... Straight couple with two kidlets - one is a little girl of 2 and a bit, the other a boy just over a year. I have not raised my daughter according to the traditional way of what is appropriate for a girl and what not. Much thought has gone into our parenting style, and it is something I am very specific about.(she probably has more so-called boys toys than girly stuff - originated by me, but now her choice)

So the father of this family swipes a doll away from his 1 year old son because "he should not play with dolls" Needless to say i nearly had a heart-attack. Because i am relatively close to his wife, and did not want to have the conversation infront of the children, we went for coffee the next day and we talked about the situation. All I can say is thank goodness i am comfortable with my sexuality and that I can raise my daughter the way I see fit...

People and their homophobic ways never ceases to amaze me.
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You said it. :mad: It's just so infuriating and mindboggling. I wouldn't mind so much if people would give honest reasons as to why they feel that way. (Which is not the same as saying I wouldn't mind, because I still think it's ridiculous.) But I think the biggest problem is they can't even be honest with themselves about it, and that's really where the resolution needs to begin. And until then... rar.

And I'm totally with you on the "gender specific" child rearing. I hate it. I was pretty fortunate with the parents I have, and the couple I live with are also very open-minded about it (among other things, hah), but unfortunately, that still seems to be the exception rather than the norm.

We're pretty involved in a local ballet company here (Housemate XY helped found it, and Housemate XX met him when she joined the company). Just since I've been involved with it, I've seen half a dozen boys quit specifically because their fathers insisted on it. (At least one of them was a natural and probably could dance professionally someday if he wanted... but that's another issue.)

Yes, I'm biased, but I don't think it's a baseless bias. ;) Ballet dancers are among the most athletic I've ever met in my life. And yet it's sissy?? Football players take group showers and slap each other on the ass, and yet men who can leap higher than Michael Jordan and dance with beautiful women are the "gay", sissy ones. Right. :devil:

Oh. And he might "catch" gay. I love that.

(Okay, ending now, gotta finish up work IRL.)
 
mark197205 said:
No worries, you didnt need to say anything really, so I found a little bit left of that part of yourself that you had forgotten about? :D :nana:


I do have some bits left to tan dont I? ;)


*edited to add* Thats a real nice belt buckle you got there, I have a belt with interchangable buckles, one of which is a Harley one, will try and take some pics for you if you are interested?.... :)
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Can you actually read it?! i was experimenting.

Yes, i would be interested.....
 
Nirvanadragones said:
Roxanne, you are SUCH a sweetie... although, right now I am unsure of if you're flirting with me, or with Honey... I'd settle for both :devil:

(Is it my turn to ask your famous question? )
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So are Honey and me gonna fuck, or what? :devil:

Honey is eminently fuckable, isn't she?

Think I'll leave it at that . . . ;)


PS. "Eminently fuckable" meaning "desirable," not "loose." I'm sure she's a very proper young lady.
 
Honey123 said:
I'm comfortable with myself too...as you all can tell I flirt with all sexes...I don't think it matters what gender a person is. If you feel comfortable with each other what does it matter?

I just find it so sad that some people find it so terrible if you have sexual feelings for someone of the same sex.

EDITED: This sounded foolish even to myself...I am sorry...I am really tired..not a good night's sleep..if I offended in anyway, I apologize and blame it on my sleepiness....
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It doesnt sound foolish to me Honey, although you may have reworded it a little since you first typed it, everyone has the right to be who they want to be, to be with who they want to be with regardless of colour, religion or sexual orientation.
 
dizzylia said:
You said it. :mad: It's just so infuriating and mindboggling. I wouldn't mind so much if people would give honest reasons as to why they feel that way. (Which is not the same as saying I wouldn't mind, because I still think it's ridiculous.) But I think the biggest problem is they can't even be honest with themselves about it, and that's really where the resolution needs to begin. And until then... rar.

And I'm totally with you on the "gender specific" child rearing. I hate it. I was pretty fortunate with the parents I have, and the couple I live with are also very open-minded about it (among other things, hah), but unfortunately, that still seems to be the exception rather than the norm.

We're pretty involved in a local ballet company here (Housemate XY helped found it, and Housemate XX met him when she joined the company). Just since I've been involved with it, I've seen half a dozen boys quit specifically because their fathers insisted on it. (At least one of them was a natural and probably could dance professionally someday if he wanted... but that's another issue.)

Yes, I'm biased, but I don't think it's a baseless bias. ;) Ballet dancers are among the most athletic I've ever met in my life. And yet it's sissy?? Football players take group showers and slap each other on the ass, and yet men who can leap higher than Michael Jordan and dance with beautiful women are the "gay", sissy ones. Right. :devil:

Oh. And he might "catch" gay. I love that.

(Okay, ending now, gotta finish up work IRL.)
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Case in point Dizzy, the story Billy Elliot, set in the UK during the late 70's early 80's in a mining town, boy discovers a talent for ballet, father and older brother try to stop him, but he persists and goes to London and becomes a famous dancer (he also has a male best friend who is a cross-dresser but thats another story).
 
Anniejustagirl said:
Can you actually read it?! i was experimenting.

Yes, i would be interested.....
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Read it? the part of you or the buckle? would have to say no but would be interested in doing so to both....

I shall have a go tomorrow, just need some good light. *crosses fingers*
 
Roxanne Appleby said:
So are Honey and me gonna fuck, or what? :devil:

Honey is eminently fuckable, isn't she?

Think I'll leave it at that . . . ;)


PS. "Eminently fuckable" meaning "desirable," not "loose." I'm sure she's a very proper young lady.
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The beginning of yet another orgasm... or should I say Interlude... ? :devil:
 
Anniejustagirl said:
Minds are like parachutes.... they only truly function... when open.
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Very very true Annie, would explain why so many are dysfuntional...
 
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