gunhilltrain
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It didn't make the five best, but it didn't make ten least either. Is writing erotica a sub-set? I have submissions on here that are non-erotic, if that matters.
Writing as a male hobby
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AG31
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How do people have time to get mildly entertaining info like this via a monologue? I could have read the list in less than 30 seconds. As I type he's still talking nonsense.
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His audience probably wouldn't get the message if it weren't mildly entertaining.
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Then there are people with YouTube channels or blogs who basically have one idea and repeat it every week (or every day) for years. The so-called manosphere has some of them. Often they are also promoting their books or some service like "life-coaching." There are some on YouTube who have two-hour videos.
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Perhaps some of our readers find us mildly entertaining.
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They did have "porn" as #3 least attractive, FWIW. But "reading" as #1 most attractive, so if you read what you write maybe it balances out.
Yeah, I skimmed ahead to read the answers off the board rather than waiting for him to talk through it. But making money from those channels requires dragging it out.
Yeah, I skimmed ahead to read the answers off the board rather than waiting for him to talk through it. But making money from those channels requires dragging it out.
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Computer 'how-to' videos are the worst in that regard.
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Unfortunately, one must bow to the algorithms if you want to make any money off YouTube and make videos far longer than they need to be.
That said, this current nonsense of acceptable vs. unacceptable hobbies for men is ridiculous. If people made the same kind of content about hobbies that are acceptable for women then it would be attacked as being misogynistic, and an attempt to "control women's bodies" and all the rest.
I divide my partner's hobbies into two categories. Ones we have in common, and ones we don't. We can engage in the ones we have in common together, and the ones we don't...well when he's playing poker with his buddies I'll go do my own thing. It all kind of works out.
That said, this current nonsense of acceptable vs. unacceptable hobbies for men is ridiculous. If people made the same kind of content about hobbies that are acceptable for women then it would be attacked as being misogynistic, and an attempt to "control women's bodies" and all the rest.
I divide my partner's hobbies into two categories. Ones we have in common, and ones we don't. We can engage in the ones we have in common together, and the ones we don't...well when he's playing poker with his buddies I'll go do my own thing. It all kind of works out.
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The worst may be guys who have some agenda to push. They will have two solid hours of themselves sitting in their house and talking in front of camera. They shall remain nameless here, but they are easy to find.
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Well, here I have to disagree. One of the highlights of my year was finding a youtube video that showed me how to restore the pressure from my shower head by using distilled white vinegar. I really needed to see every step. And it was shorter than that dumb video of the guy reading us the list of hobbies.
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I wish I could have figured out how to do that. I kept looking for a way to just read them, not luck.
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Other than reading I didn't hit anything on that list, but also none of the 'worst hobbies"
TBH the cigar thing just makes me shake my head, looks like a big cock sticking out of your face. Maybe find another way to curb the oral fixation.
Darts
Shooting pool
Martial arts-although a bit less gung ho as I'm getting older.
Comic books
Occult and mythology of any kind.
I asked my wife really quick last night what annoying hobbies she would pick for men and she really only came up with one that I know will be an unpopular opinion.
Video games. My wife feels any guy out of their twenties who still play these things for hours on end is a tell that they're not an actual adult male. I tend to agree, I think last thing I played was Halo2 and only to play with my daughter because she was into it at one point. When my grandkids come over, we have no video game system and my middle grandson selflessly suggested that someone should give us one for Christmas, so we'd have one...you know, just for us.
Her answer for a good hobby for a man-after she suggested cooking, because I only make grilled cheese was...poker. My wife thinks poker is oddly sexy for some reason. That and being able to restore and fix old cars.
TBH the cigar thing just makes me shake my head, looks like a big cock sticking out of your face. Maybe find another way to curb the oral fixation.
Darts
Shooting pool
Martial arts-although a bit less gung ho as I'm getting older.
Comic books
Occult and mythology of any kind.
I asked my wife really quick last night what annoying hobbies she would pick for men and she really only came up with one that I know will be an unpopular opinion.
Video games. My wife feels any guy out of their twenties who still play these things for hours on end is a tell that they're not an actual adult male. I tend to agree, I think last thing I played was Halo2 and only to play with my daughter because she was into it at one point. When my grandkids come over, we have no video game system and my middle grandson selflessly suggested that someone should give us one for Christmas, so we'd have one...you know, just for us.
Her answer for a good hobby for a man-after she suggested cooking, because I only make grilled cheese was...poker. My wife thinks poker is oddly sexy for some reason. That and being able to restore and fix old cars.
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I think my wife would go with woodworking and working on cars. The smell of fresh sawdust and/or motor oil is like her personal aphrodisiac.
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For things like home repair, having that visual can be great.
But for computer programming stuff... say I'm trying to find out how to program a particular task, and the answer looks something like this (taken from an old t Lit-related project):
Python:
re_case1 = r"\b(([b-zA-Z])\2{0,2}[\s\-][cC][uU][pP][sS]{0,1})\b"
re_case2 = r"\b([1-9][0-9]\-{0,1}([a-rt-zA-Z])\2{0,2}\b)"
n_words_options = [1000,3000]
startstring="Followers"
stopstring="report"
count_results = dict()
cases_found = dict()
for s in story_urls:
storypage1_html = urllib.request.urlopen(s, context=ctx).read()
storypage1_soup = BeautifulSoup(storypage1_html, "html.parser")
pagetext=storypage1_soup.get_text()
storytext=(pagetext.partition(startstring)[2]).rpartition(stopstring)[0]
storytext_cleaned = storytext.replace("—","-").replace("–","-")
storywords=re.split('[^\w\-\']+',storytext_cleaned)
for n_words in n_words_options:
first_n_words=" ".join(storywords[0:min(n_words,len(storywords))])
matches = re.findall(re_case1,first_n_words)+re.findall(re_case2,first_n_words)
if matches:
if n_words == max(n_words_options):
print("Matches found in story: "+s+" in first " +str(n_words)+" words:")
for m in matches:
print(m[0])
cases_found[m[0].upper()]=1+cases_found.get(m[0].upper(),0)
count_results[(n_words,"At least one match")]=1+count_results.get((n_words,"At least one match"),0)
count_results[(n_words,"Total matches")]=len(matches)+count_results.get((n_words,"Total matches"),0)
print(count_results)
print(cases_found)If somebody has written up that example as a text document, I can just copy and paste that code, then modify as needed for my own purposes.
But if it's in a video how-to, I'll have to pause the video, squint at it, and retype every line of code into my editor. It's atrocious. And if I know most of the answer and just need one particular thing, there's no easy way to Ctrl-F through a video to find the word I'm after.
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Some of the "how to" videos are really good, but they seem to be few and far between.
Other than writing, my hobbies tend to be in two directions - woodworking and electronics. There seem to be a lot of youtube videos of people making things of both types, but they fall short in two places. The woodworking videos tend to demonstrate the $20,000 of power tools the author has and the electronic videos show the construction of projects without any explanation of how the component values were picked. I won't go into the "projects" made using cardboard, hot glue, and super glue though there are some ideas there if you care to develop them.
The one sort of videos I do not understand the reason for is the "unboxing" videos. I don't care what a product looks like when it's in the packaging, and I don't like statements like, "It looks to be well constructed". What I want to see is how it works by someone who knows how to use it. Sadly, most of those videos stop short of any actual demonstration of how the product works.
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Video games, from a video I saw the other day, is like the highest hated hobby among women. Personally, if it's not an addiction, it should be trivial. It's just another form of interactive media, a way to relax, challenge the mind, make friends, do hobbies one might not be able to afford, or access, and make money. Sounds better than some folks "hobby" of doom scrolling social media.
The irony of some chick who thinks so low of somebody who likes video games, while making TikToks, and filtered selfies with Snapchat, like she's better. Once something becomes an addiction, especially something that isn't getting you paid(like TikTok or YouTube can), is nolonger a hobby.
Two stories in recent times:
1) A teenage sim racer who's a pro at actual sim racing games(Forza or Gran Turismo), was able to beat actual pro drivers in a real race, in real cars. Side note; video games have been used to train people.
2) A guy was playing online with friends and had something like a siezure or heart attack, those guys contacted his local EMS for him.
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"From a video I watched"
Well, how can one argue with all that experience?
Maybe I should make a video reading my post, so you'd realize the comment is about men's hobbies, not women's.
My actual EXPERIENCE having two daughters who had phases where they liked online gaming is that a lot of the online gaming 'community' is rife with misogyny and 'men' threatening female gamers with rape and violence. I'm sure there's videos out there on that topic.
And don't take cheap shots at my wife.
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The video I watched was like that one Gunhill posted, but referenced the ten male hobbies hated by women, with a focus on video games, because it was number one. I wasn't hoisting it as definitive expert information. I was just throwing the things some women do, to point out that some of them are hypocrites.
As far as my experience irl, I've known women that do and don't play video games, like and don't like them. My fiancee is a gamer, she was even a GM on WoW, who as a rogue, would do things like extort users. As far as online, I've seen the discussions on City-Data, and the discussions and arguments on LipstickAlley, which is a site mainly dedicated to women.
There's a lot of misogyny with online gaming, along with bigotry to the point some people don't wanna play them, or don't feel safe. I don't vibe with that.
I'm not taking cheap shots at your wife, nor did I intend to. That would be disrespectful to her and you. I'm one of the members least likely to even personally attack another member, than to attack or criticize their opinion or idea.
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Sony (who makes Gran Turisimo) and Nissan had a collaboration where people who won a virtual racing competition got a shot at a real race car driving job.
They made a HIGHLY fictionalized movie about it that was pretty good.
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Polyphonal Digital, published by Sony as their exclusive sim racing title.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jann_Mardenborough
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There’s also an obvious double standard.
Men (and occasionally women) hurling abuse at other men? Eh, everyone knows that online gaming is a toxic cesspool.
Men (and less occasionally women) hurling abuse at women? OMG misogyny and bigotry and Exhibit A why we need feminism etc.
Neither are good but the reactions are so tellingly different.
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I really am sick of gendered double standards.
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