How to Avoid AI Rejection

[StillStunned]

I was just warning you. If Wanda knew what you were saying, she'd be foaming at the mouth. Any chance of making it up to her would be washed down the drain.

 

[Bamagan]

I was just warning you. If Wanda knew what you were saying, she'd be foaming at the mouth. Any chance of making it up to her would be washed down the drain.

Okay, message received. Consider my bubble to be burst.
It's just as well, though; soap puns might not be very sudstainable in the long run.

 

[StillStunned]

Probably because there's not enough soap to clean all the filth from the dirty minds here.

But I wash my hands of the whole business.

 

[StillStunned]

Not if they’re doing hard time.

Wait, is the soap behind bars? The scum!

 

[onehitwanda]

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[StillStunned]

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Yes, I use alcohol to disinfect my mind too.

 

[Bramblethorn]

So, @Bramblethorn dropped the soap and @onehitwanda pounces. Someone should write a story about that.

A tale as old as time itself.

 

[AIwriter]

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Hahaha no.

Writing. Mathematics. Antibiotics. Computers. Music. The wheel. Ammonia synthesis. The lever. Archimedes' screw. Crop rotation. Electrical generation. The transistor. The printing press. Vaccination. Powered flight. Domestication of animals. Railways. Satellites. Telephones. The propellor. Electric motors. Integrated circuits. The cathode-ray tube. Synthetic fibers. Hats. Shoes. Hand-washing. Radio. The telegraph. The steam engine. Telescopes. Spectacles. Appendectomy. Rocket propulsion. Boats. Clocks. Vacuum cleaners. Money. Dentistry.

Actual general artificial intelligence might qualify, but that's not been invented yet.

oh jaysis LOL.


this again.


well, AI is all hype. lets go home. .... wait, why are these idiots getting 40 BILLION murican dollas? Each corporation?
Oooooooooooobviously, the system and the people who lead it are total idiots - unlike me, who is a genius.

 

[AIwriter]

You’re pouring water into a sieve. Without getting into details, suffice it to say that if the site becomes AI-friendly tomorrow, the same lemmings vehemently opposing AI today will be the first to champion it.

interesting take, but I disagree.

Creative types have an inflated ego, that's one - big ego (famous "Let them learn to code" bleating from "reporters" when people were losing jobs, and now "wait.... we reporters are losing jobs to AI, unfair!").

Second, as most humans, they cling and will cling to keep the system where they are relevant in the skills they use to make money (which is somewhat important, for food, for starters). Can't blame them. They will feel useless when a machine can do it better, and they are no longer needed.

Of course, a total shift of the paradigm - reality change, system change - is URGENTLY needed. As usual in democracy and really any other human system, humanity will do EVERY. SINGLE. WORST. THING. to keep the system and keep the elites 0.0000000000000001% in total power, until there is no choice but to pick the right one.

So both ego and inability to adapt, even to utopia. Inability to imagine a different system working in practice.

So no, people will fight tooth and nail against AI, in every facet. Shrug. Like pissing against the wind - the wind won't care.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Well, this conversation has been scrubbed to death.

 

[Bramblethorn]

oh jaysis LOL.


this again.


well, AI is all hype. lets go home. .... wait, why are these idiots getting 40 BILLION murican dollas?

Because they found some suckers with more money than sense, duh.

"Somebody spent money on it so it must be right!" is a ridiculous argument. I can point you at a church that receives about a trillion dollars of donations a year; that doesn't mean we should all go convert to that faith.

Each corporation?
Oooooooooooobviously, the system and the people who lead it are total idiots - unlike me, who is a genius.

No, you're right. Corporations have never blown huge wads of money on things that weren't worth it. Never happened. I'm sure the reason we never heard about blockchain these days is just because all the people who invested big bucks in it got so rich they retired. And NFTs, really sucks to have missed the boat on that one eh?

Second, as most humans, they cling and will cling to keep the system where they are relevant in the skills they use to make money (which is somewhat important, for food, for starters). Can't blame them. They will feel useless when a machine can do it better, and they are no longer needed.

"AI" (as currently marketed) can do things cheaper than a skilled human, but it sure AF doesn't do it better.

Of course, a total shift of the paradigm - reality change, system change - is URGENTLY needed. As usual in democracy and really any other human system, humanity will do EVERY. SINGLE. WORST. THING. to keep the system and keep the elites 0.0000000000000001% in total power, until there is no choice but to pick the right one.

So, your position is that people are irrational, and act against their own interests, but corporations are smart and always invest their money sensibly?

Let me blow your mind: decisions at those corporations are made by people. People who are just as susceptible to irrationality and biases as everybody else.

The idea that embracing "AI" is a smart way to "fight the elites" is a particularly toxic one. Mostly when people say "elites" in that context, they're not talking about people with any actual power and influence in the world - writing as a profession pays miserably. Mostly what they mean is "people who invested time and effort to get good at something, which I'm not willing to do."

Everybody likes to believe they're part of the oppressed majority. But the gap between "people who didn't want to do the work to get good at art" (something which, mostly, pays very poorly) and people who voluntarily spent a lot of time getting good at something that pays badly is not about "oppressed vs. elites".

People who didn't do the work, and feel it's somehow unfair that prestige is awarded to those who did (never mind that you can't eat prestige), are being encouraged to believe they're Oppressed and that AI is their saviour that will equalise the supposedly unfair advantage of those "elites".

But AI tech costs money to run. A lot of money. Right now, that cost is hidden, because the AI vendors are eating huge losses in the hope of building a market and starving their competitors, the way Lyft and Uber did to taxi services. If they can keep it up long enough, they can drive human artists/writers/etc. out of those occupations into something that lets them eat, and then they can jack up the prices free from competition. You're currently enjoying the "first dose is free" stage of the game, but that stage doesn't last.

Once the price goes up, AI becomes a means for the 1% to monetise all that art that people put out on the internet for free, for the enjoyment of other humans, and all the didn't-do-the-work "oppressed" people become customers.

So both ego and inability to adapt, even to utopia. Inability to imagine a different system working in practice.

Fuckin' lol.

Tech innovation is my day job. I make far more money doing that than most professional writers do from writing. Imagining new systems is what I'm paid for, and people like my work enough to keep paying me for it. I work with machine-learning systems; I know more about the workings of LLM technology than most of the people trying to convince me it's going to save the world.

I'm also old enough to remember previous iterations of the tech hype cycle.

 

[TheLobster]

I'm also old enough to remember previous iterations of the tech hype cycle.

Precisely. As far as hypes go, “AI” might be a notch higher than a total hogwash like crypto or blockchain but I can’t see it being more impactful long term than ideas like cloud computing.

The main difference between those and LLMs is that you don’t much in the way of technical background to speculate about it. Everyone can appraise their results, and they do look deceptively impressive at first. Problems only become evident once you dig deeper.

 

[Bazzle]

I did see, and failed to save the link to thing on Medium with common AI words.

As if its got a set thesaurus it reaches for. If Lit is looking for those words...it might be what is triggering peeps stories?

 

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[burgwad]

AI is really good at being really bad at writing. As such, I don't use AI tools to write. But I do use my own staunch disdain for AI's ideas to help me get out of writer's block.

Here's how. First, I copy-paste my draft wholesale, all the way up to the point where I've momentarily stalled out. Then I hit the "Send" button, and see what stupid, low-hanging ideas the AI spits out on how to proceed. I promptly use none of them. But you'd be amazed how helpful it can be to be able to go, "Oh, no, that's a terrible idea," in clarifying what in fact you think would be a good idea!

I guess in this sense what I'm outsourcing isn't the writing process itself, but the smaller brainstorming processes that can go into drafting the kinds of organic, character-driven works I tend to write. As good as I am at coming up with bad, unusable ideas on my own, AI puts my puny human ineptitude to shame. And it's tireless! So whereas I have finite creative energy that is better spent elsewhere in the scant, few-hour-long bursts of free writing time I am afforded each week, AI can give me five dogshit ideas back-to-back no problem, and in zero seconds flat I've done twenty minutes worth of tedious, go-nowhere trial and error.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Most of the above are in technical or academic writing, not fiction.

 

[Bazzle]

Most of the above are in technical or academic writing, not fiction.

There was another one about common AI words... which I cannot find!

 

[MillieDynamite]

Opulent, elegant, fingers danced, fringers traced (all repeated many, many, many times, in the same, same, exact way).

There was another one about common AI words... which I cannot find!

 

[Katie_Mae]

Opulent, elegant, fingers danced, fringers traced (all repeated many, many, many times, in the same, same, exact way).

And "symphony." Like, "Pleasure caressed her body , a symphony of sensation as his elegant fingers danced over the surface of her smooth skin that glowed ethereal in the firelight." (That's my attempt at AI writing, not actual AI)

 

[Bramblethorn]

Opulent, elegant, fingers danced, fringers traced (all repeated many, many, many times, in the same, same, exact way).

Back when I was experimenting with getting ChatGPT to write sex scenes, it absolutely loved "dance", even when I modified the prompt with "without using the word 'dance'".

 

[MillieDynamite]

Yeah, a whole lot of dancing going on!

Back when I was experimenting with getting ChatGPT to write sex scenes, it absolutely loved "dance", even when I modified the prompt with "without using the word 'dance'".

Yes, ma'am, a cacophony of sympathy.

And "symphony." Like, "Pleasure caressed her body , a symphony of sensation as his elegant fingers danced over the surface of her smooth skin that glowed ethereal in the firelight." (That's my attempt at AI writing, not actual AI)

 

[MillieDynamite]

'Tisn't the use of the words; it's rather the overuse of the words and phrases that shows a lack of humanity in the writing.